Do those who voted Tory not realise if acutely unwell they will need A&E as no equivalent in the private sector?

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Just that they will have the same problems accessing A&E and ambulances as others without private health insurance. And they voted for this?

Yes I assume most will know this but not all Tory voters have private insurance.

They won't care

You do realise that when the LABOUR government under Blair brought in ppi that everyone warned them that this would be the consequences 20+years down the line but they didn't care because it made them look good and knew that they could blame whomever was in power at the time.
BTW I'm not a tory voter and I'm not saying that austerity hasn't made things worse just let's lay the blame where it belongs ie with new labour and Blair/Brown

Austerity hasn't made things worse? So the deliberate underfunding of services for more than a decade has had no effect?

That should be pfi not ppi bloody auto correct

I expect they will be happy to stump up a fee, wait for 10 hours whilst loudly banging on that if people didn't smoke, drink, eat donuts, live in extreme poverty. ( as they didn't work hard at school/ make the right life choices age 16) , did more exercise then there would be no accidents or illness ever. Whilst conveniently forgetting that the reason why they ended up there was they slipped off a step whilst emerging from their detached house in the country.

I work in a and e, many people are there as they simply slipped off a step or on a leaf. Can result in huge injury too.

But it’s not the same for the ones at the top if rishi got really sick or had an accident do you really think he’d be outside a&e for 12 hours in an ambulance

Op

you have got a little mixed up and confused two issues as being one issue

not all tory voters have private health insurance

however I do indeed have private health AND voted tory AND fully aware I will need NHS A&E because, well, i have a brain and read my policy before paying £87 a month

I hate the tories but I hate these types of statements as well. People vote Tory for a variety of reasons, some very straightforward ie agree with their policies and others more complex. The NHS is a shit show, but any idea what outcomes in Wales are worse than England pretty much across the board when they have Labour? How much better is NHS Scotland fairing?

The issues are much deeper than just the tories haven't funded it properly, until these are addressed things will never get better.

If labour made a bad decision 20 years ago, surely the Tory party have had a few opportunities to rectify it by now??? No...its got worse. Ridiculous to blame labour.

Why outcomes*

If you are talking to me you need to reread what I typed because I said "I'm NOT saying that austerity hasn't made things worse "

OP, I think you’re confused.

yes they will need A&E and operations that require an intensive care bed post op, and other services that aren’t offered in the private sector. But when they have to wait they will just blame the staff/the poor/ other patients/ immigration/ the Labour Party.

Oh to think of life in such a simple way.

She is

Shes read an article here, a headline there, listened to her best mate at the school gate and cobbled together a view that doesn’t make sense

@malificent7 yes and it's so easy to get out of a legally binding contracts that were set to run for 50+years

They were talking on R4 yesterday about how no voter could be persuaded to blame Labour for the state of the NHS now but apparently they were wrong 🙄.

labour voters good conservative voters bad blah blah blah

so many of these same threads every day
i worked for the nhs for a bit - bullying is rife, mismanagement of money, many staff are actually rude as hell
im bored of everything coming down to how much more the nhs needs

its like a bottomless pit of money all of the time

What an incredibly limited and unintelligent view.

Perhaps the Tory voters believed it would have been even worse under any other government.

Well labour don’t seem to know what a biological woman is so I’m not particularly excited about them taking over healthcare

If you’re talking PFI yes the process has ended it doesn’t stop what is still owed though.

But yes agree with Alaldlccmemsjzja, on blah blah

Yes you worked for the NHS “for a bit” not long enough to work out that it is actually being underfunded. Sorry you are bored of people being rightly outraged at the state of our healthcare system, how tedious for you 🙄

If they can afford to employ 'Directors of Lived Experience' and suchlike for north of £100K it doesn't sound like they're too short of money.