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MIL upset about no sleepovers after decorating a room for DD

818 replies

MollyPocket · 03/01/2023 12:05

We went to PIL for lunch on New Year’s Day and MIL announced that she wanted to show us something upstairs. So we followed her and she proceeded to do a grand reveal of our DD’s new bedroom, all bedecked with pink princesses and unicorns (not my taste but clearly a lot of effort gone in). She proceeded to request we make a start with her first sleepover next week.

DD is just turning 4 months and getting her to bed is challenging at the moment (often resorting to co sleeping) so I was a bit shocked and felt she’d jumped the gun a bit. We haven’t even discussed sleepovers yet.

I basically told MIL that while the room looked great, it was much too soon to be having sleepovers. Honestly I don’t think I’ll be keen on the idea for ages yet.

MIL didn’t say much but was clearly a bit put out. Later on she texted me to say she was upset as she had put in a lot of effort and was so looking forward to regular sleepovers. She asked when we could start. I said that as DD is breastfed and often co sleeps it won’t be for quite some time.

Yesterday I though about it and felt bad for MIL and started to think maybe in a couple of months if DD will take a bottle and isn’t co sleeping so often we could try it and see how it goes.

But then I caught sight of a text popping up on DH’s phone, so picked it up and read their conversation (yes I know I shouldn’t). MIL actually said to DH that ‘he mustn’t let me carry on breastfeeding longer than necessary in order to keep DD from doing overnights at their house’! In a previous text she’d told him she had hoped to be doing overnights 1-2 times a week (erm, nope).

DH had been trying to temper to situation and told her we’d let her know when we’re ready, but the way I feel now I’m not sure I ever will be!

DH and I are homebodies so while the time might come that we want a babysitter for the odd night out, it hasn’t even occurred to us yet. If she doesn’t calm down I’ll be asking my own parents to do it.

However I have never limited their daytime visits - although I am always there as I don’t want people taking her without me yet.

Am I being unreasonable or is she just nuts?

OP posts:
piedbeauty · 04/01/2023 20:43

4 months??! I thought you were going to say that dd was 4 years old!

Mil is clearly very keen to have sleepovers, but this is your baby. Stick to your guns!

BaconChops · 04/01/2023 20:45

No, these times are precious for you and your husband. Savour them and enjoy every moment. MIL has been thoughtful with the room but it’s on your terms not hers. Stand your ground.

Carrie19230 · 04/01/2023 21:03

She is out of order, stick to your guns, you are the mother, this woman has no boundaries, a red flag!!!

Mandyjack · 04/01/2023 21:07

1 to 2 times a week! She's your baby that seems very excessive for any child even if she was older.
My MIL used to have my baby overnight if we went out but she was bottle fed and it certainly wasn't as often as that.

Neuroillogical · 04/01/2023 21:19

I’d be breastfeeding till DD is 10.

AbcXyz123456 · 04/01/2023 21:32

YANBU. She needs to fuck off. Not her child. 100% up to you if and when you decide to let your DD have a sleepover there. It's not like you asked her to do the room. 4 months is sooooo young too. My son is 3 and I've still not had him stay over anywhere without us yet. I'm now ok with the idea but only at my parents (as I'm a control freak and can badger my own parents but don't feel as comfortable with in laws).

The fact your MIL is being manipulative and controlling would put me off even more. My MIL has a tendency to overstep with my DC (3 year old and 6 month old) and that puts me off letting her get too involved. Always gives unwanted and useless advice too. Wish MILs would be more respectful to the wishes of the MOTHER.

You're being way nicer about it than I would. Also her messages with your DH are concerning. How dare she comment on the way you choose to feed baby, especially when it's just to suit her.

Grrrrrrrr!

AbcXyz123456 · 04/01/2023 21:37

MissBelle83 · 04/01/2023 19:53

OP has said that they would look at reducing contact from MIL. I'm shocked at how many MNers have suggested cutting her out.

It also wasn't implicit in the text, it's just how you've interpreted it. She hasn't told her to stop breastfeeding.

I'm genuinely shocked at the tone of the posts on this thread. Did anyone stop to consider that MIL might have actually thought she was doing something nice...but instead it's 'how very dare she suggest looking after her grandchild, she must be insane!!!' . The timing of sleepovers are a matter of personal opinion and circumstance, OP and DH are in control of this, there's no need for dramatics.

I love an evil MIL thread as much as the next MNer but the reaction has been totally over the top.

Ultimately, none of us know the full story and I hope they can resolve it amicably.

Why are you so shocked? MIL may well think she's doing something nice but OP was clear she's not ready to do that and MIL is persisting. MIL doesn't come first here.

Pandagirl71 · 04/01/2023 21:38

I have 2 adorable DCs and I have said I'm looking forward to sleepovers when they are 5! No way would I want my youngest who is 4 months- I would have o/n if needed but this is way too pushy.!

Janecat23 · 04/01/2023 21:43

Is this her first grandchild. I think way way over excited to the point of takeover. It’s your baby not hers… going to take some handling that one. May the force be with you.

phoenixrosehere · 04/01/2023 21:51

Also define 'necessary'? Because the WHO recommends a minimum of 2 years, which I suspect is considerably longer than MIL is expecting.

Agree. The evidence is in the room she made for a four month old that no one even asked her for. She chose to do this with no prompting from anyone or even asking and has gone as far as texting her own son in hopes to get her way. Low contact is definitely the way to go. The audacity..

Mirimu · 04/01/2023 21:59

I read it as 4 years not 4 months and still thought it was unreasonable. I would probably never let my kid stay with her after that.

MissBelle83 · 04/01/2023 22:17

Calphurnia88 · 04/01/2023 20:21

There have been over 4,000 votes on this and only 3% think OP is being unreasonable. If you are in the 3% you are a clearly in the minority.

I don't know if you have breastfed, or are familiar with breastfeeding, but to pressure someone to stop breastfeeding early (which is what MIL is doing by saying DH should prevent OP from not breastfeeding longer than 'necessary') in order to satisfy your own needs is morally wrong, as it's in neither the best interests of mother or baby. Also define 'necessary'? Because the WHO recommends a minimum of 2 years, which I suspect is considerably longer than MIL is expecting.

To suggest that someone's choice to breastfeed is manipulative (as you did in your previous reply) is incredibly ignorant.

I actually didn't vote but fyi I would be in the 97%...however it is possible to agree with OP whilst also considering other perspectives.

How quickly people are to jump on a bandwagon of outrage and call another woman (they've never met) crazy is remarkable.

Juststopamoment · 04/01/2023 22:30

I do think she is testing boundaries here. Tread carefully here. You don’t want to set anything in stone.

Calphurnia88 · 04/01/2023 22:31

MissBelle83 · 04/01/2023 22:17

I actually didn't vote but fyi I would be in the 97%...however it is possible to agree with OP whilst also considering other perspectives.

How quickly people are to jump on a bandwagon of outrage and call another woman (they've never met) crazy is remarkable.

I don't think needs a bandwagon to be outraged that a grandmother would pressure the mother of their grandchild to stop breastfeeding early in order to enable them to have sleepovers. Sleepovers that are in no way beneficial to the overall health and development of the baby (vs. breastfeeding, which absolutely is).

Caldecot · 04/01/2023 22:35

She's nuts! 4 months is so young.

Mine's 8 months and goes every 4 weeks or so for 2 nights at MIL as we like to have couple time and they're bottle fed. But that was my decision, MIL didn't demand it!

fetchacloth · 04/01/2023 22:49

YANBU
Your MIL is nuts 🙄

Lov22 · 04/01/2023 23:37

YANBU
Your daughter is way too young and most importantly still breastfeeding. Breastfeed as long as you want. May be DH can help you by talking to MIL to wait till DD is abit oder? 4 months is way too young to spend a night away. I wouldn't do it either!

Imy06 · 05/01/2023 00:00

I live on the other side of the world from my family and my partners are nowhere nearby either so there are days I wish that I had someone who would take my little one for a while so I could get a good night's sleep. But when I really think about it - he's 23 months and only just (as in the last 4 days) stopped breastfeeding to sleep and he still wakes up in the night and needs comforting a couple of times so if it was a reality I don't think I would be comfortable leaving him with someone else overnight even now!
Its great that your MIL wants to spend time with your little one but she is being super demanding and definitely jumped the gun going to that length of setting up a room before sleepovers were even discussed. I'm so offended on your behalf about her comments on how long you should be breastfeeding, it is absolutely nothing to do with her and your should breastfed for exactly as long as you want to! She's definitely over stepping many boundaries with this behaviour. I hope you are able to find a peaceful resolution, but I think you are totally justified in how you are feeling!

Hugsforyou · 05/01/2023 00:00

This happened to me! I also immediately started to rationalise it, what was 'fair', until she said to my face, with a 4 month old, you need to think about stopping breastfeeding, it's not fair on me. I'm still with my DH, and still see her, 15 years on, but I keep her needs at arms length. Luckily my DH understands what she's like, I think it sounds like yours does too? But I have had to keep my guard up that whole time (whilst being totally friendly), she isn't quite right, she has tried to take them on 'adventures' as if they are in an Enid Blyton book, actually quite dangerous stuff.

Maya678 · 05/01/2023 00:09

I was expecting your daughter to be 5 or 6 yo reading this. 4 months, bloody hell MIL calm down! Not only is it too early, she’s still so young, but it’s also very presumptuous of her.

YourWinter · 05/01/2023 00:33

I have four grandchildren under 6 and I adore them, but I just can’t understand this desperate desire from some grandmothers to muscle in even with young, breastfed babies.

She’s had her own, they grew up, she doesn’t get to bully you into stupid power struggles with yours. Stand your ground, and insist your partner grows up and stands up to his completely unreasonable mother.

Missyc11 · 05/01/2023 00:43

MoggyP · 03/01/2023 12:17

  1. it is useful to teach your baby to drink from a bottle, so that she can be left (either in an emergency - such as your being ill or having an accident - or so you can leave her when you want to)

  2. they want to help, and your baby won't always be tiny - there will come a time when having helpful and competent GPs on hand could be very useful. They become competent by good communication with you and DH, and by spending time with sole charge of DC

  3. straight to overnight is a bit much - but what about a couple of hours here and there?

My guess is that they are worried that you mean never. And perhaps need some reassurance that that's not the case.

I think there are risks in stonewalling them, and benefits in improving communication. You need to stop damning her for "carrying on like this" and planning to punish her by withholding sleepovers and babysitting all together.

I see this view point too, I have always had my siblings babies from just one month onwards. I have ALOT of nieces and nephews and will always give the parent a well deserved overnight break. Its always worked well for us as when they got older and parents went back to work, the children were comfortable.
I don't see anything wrong with that.
However telling mum to stop breastfeeding is not OK.

Can I ask would you allow your own parents to have the little one? It sounds as though you don't have a great relationship with MIL due to you stating "she is manipulative and Controlling"

margegunderson · 05/01/2023 00:51

Is nobody going to raise the point of the ghastly decor? Why do people think girls have to be surrounded by bloody pink and unicorns??
And the rest of it is mad as well.

Cactusmad · 05/01/2023 00:52

Will grandma be sleeping in the room with baby ? It’s not usual for babies now to sleep away from their parents. Her view is old fashioned and not safe sleeping practice. I think the reality of a breastfed baby away from its mother may shock her to not ask again. Babies don’t read rule books. Not suggesting an overnight stay. Just her fantasy is different than reality.

MrsLiu1981 · 05/01/2023 03:37

Nah, you and/or hubby need to shut this down ASAP! YNBU

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