Are they all hiding in a fucking fridge?

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The government? Where is the leadership? The reassurance that the problem is being addressed with urgency? Cobra meetings? Horrendous stories coming out of A&E departments right now.

Steve Barclay, the Health Secretary today announced on twitter that people should download the Couch to 5k app to reduce pressure on the NHS.

twitter.com/stevebarclay/status/1609957311610556416?s=61&t=rHTkCD1w_H9OmH9UB2E4UQ

Do your fucking job, Steve. And Rishi, show some leadership. You bloody wanted this job so badly, where have you gone?

www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-64142614

Maybe you can point to when we had the collapse of AE under Labour?
The number of Doctors in training doubled under Labour and we did not have 135k vacancies.

No, staff are not Saints, who said they were?

You wont get a tattoo removed by the NHS and IVF is already limited.

Prolong life? 500 people a week are dying waiting for treatment & ime the NHS do not keep pumping people with antibiotics for chest infections anymore & AB's no longer work in many cases.

Reform NHS ? sure but it has to function first & atm no one in Govt is saying what model we might go for other than the US one.

Since Brexit we've had a pandemic, and quite a lot of money was needed for apps and the like.

The NHS is also still paying over £2billion per year repaying labours PFI contracts.

Tbh that sounds like peanuts in the context of the £7 billion that the Tories spent in November giving energy companies money to subsidise domestic bills.

Unless you think that investment in new hospitals was a bad thing?

What would have been your alternative to PFI in the 2000s and where would the NHS be now without those hospitals?

£3 billion spent on agency staff in England over the last year.

Mark Harper Transport Minister, is suggesting that wearing masks if you're out and unwell is "sensible advice".
So that's kind of helpful.....

www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-64151557

Masks don't work and won't keep people out of hospitals.

They can't stop total spread but they can certainly decrease it. Eg studies done comparing schools in the States which either did or didn't mask show much lower case rates.

Masks do work to reduce the spread but only when used correctly, either way its better than doing nothing and they're a useful counter measure when used in conjunction with other countermeasures such as staying home/away from vulnerable people when sick, good hand hygiene, ventilation, etc.

And there was an impact in U.K. schools, the DfE begrudgingly admitted after having its original methodology criticised.

assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1119353/Analysis_on_the_use_of_face_coverings_in_secondary_schools_and_COVID-19_absence_rates.pdf

Sneeze into a tissue, cough into your elbow. But people want to believe there’s no value in trying to limit the stuff that comes out of your mouth?

Good to see the Transport Minister making health recommendations though. Guess he drew the short straw at leaving the fridge.

What you need to understand is that MPs don't run the country. They are just the public faces taking the credit for the organisation that does run the country. The country is run by civil servants and senior civil servants who work day in day out behind the scenes running the country and making all the important decisions. The MPs just parrot what the civil servants tell them to say. That's why it doesn't really matter how much time MPs have off because they aren't the ones doing all the work it takes to run the country anyway.

The MPs just parrot what the civil servants tell them to say.

So are the civil servants on holiday too? Given that there's a major crisis and an absence of parrots?

That is not true about MPs and Ministers. I assume you have never actually worked with MPs and Ministers if you think that.

London has decided to solve the problem of ambulances waiting outside hospitals unable to discharge patients into A&E care by telling them to discharge them into A&E care after 45 minutes of waiting and drive off for the next lot.

I'm sure this isn't worthy of comment.

twitter.com/paulbranditv/status/1610229256373604353?s=61&t=OHMrONlrqFuNrQrbGjPHkA

Indeed it is weird how Liz Truss and Kwasi Kwarteng got the blame for their disastrous budget when apparently it's civil servants who run the country and make the decisions.

Well gutted, good masks (FFP2 & FFP3) work. Abundance of science to show that.

Incidentally this is being implemented because the risk to the patient of being ditched with very little support in an overcrowded A&E is deemed to be lower than the risk to the next patient waiting for an ambulance being left with no ambulance and no support.

But of course more ambulances being freed up to return with more patients will add to the overcrowding.

What an awful situation, and what horrible judgement calls are being made.

And?

My exact point was that we should use evidence based decision making, not make the random assumptions and budget changes being suggested.

theworldhas
Brexit is costing the country approx £40 billion a year in lost tax revenues

That estimate has come from the Centre for European Reform based on their own algorithm/s and a doppelgänger UK that doesn't exist. ITV's business and economics editor should have mentioned in his article that the Centre for European Reform is a pro-EU think tank. This is a link to the CER's website;

The Centre for European Reform is a think-tank devoted to making the European Union work better and strengthening its role in the world.

www.cer.eu/about

And the £30bn cost of bailing out the Truss/Kwartang budget.

www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/nov/12/revealed-the-30bn-cost-of-liz-trusss-disastrous-mini-budget

It doesn't make their sums wrong though?

Many UK businesses have stopped trading with EU or moved operations, CBI has said so too and called for a renegotiated deal.

There were very sound economic reasons for joining the Single Market, they have not gone away.

Wonder if Clav could dig up any sums where Brexit is making us money.

Your idea of "sensible" seems to mainly consist of "shut up and put up". The rest is deliberately obtuse.

People have every right to be angry, and hold people to account for failing us.