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Are they all hiding in a fucking fridge?

627 replies

noblegiraffe · 02/01/2023 22:37

The government? Where is the leadership? The reassurance that the problem is being addressed with urgency? Cobra meetings? Horrendous stories coming out of A&E departments right now.

Steve Barclay, the Health Secretary today announced on twitter that people should download the Couch to 5k app to reduce pressure on the NHS.

twitter.com/stevebarclay/status/1609957311610556416?s=61&t=rHTkCD1w_H9OmH9UB2E4UQ

Do your fucking job, Steve. And Rishi, show some leadership. You bloody wanted this job so badly, where have you gone?

www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-64142614

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catandcoffee · 02/01/2023 22:42

It really depends on the area you live in.

Family member in A+E suspected pneumonia in and out in 7 hours. including tests,bloods, and xrays.

I've also had 2 very quick hospital appointments when referred by GP.

brusselsprout5 · 02/01/2023 22:44

Agree. It's completely shocking. I'd actually be up for protesting in the streets about this. My sister is a nurse & she says everything you read is true. But there's now people coming in to hospital who are cold & hungry & can't sort themselves out with covid/flu as can't afford to. So they've got themselves a case of pneumonia. Awful, awful, awful. The Tories have blood on their hands and are hiding away.

CherryPieface · 02/01/2023 22:44

It’s awful, isn’t it? No leadership, no accountability, no idea.

noblegiraffe · 02/01/2023 22:45

catandcoffee · 02/01/2023 22:42

It really depends on the area you live in.

Family member in A+E suspected pneumonia in and out in 7 hours. including tests,bloods, and xrays.

I've also had 2 very quick hospital appointments when referred by GP.

From the BBC article in the OP:

"Pressure on the NHS is "intolerable and unsustainable", according to the British Medical Association (BMA) which represents doctors.
Chair of the BMA council, Professor Phil Banfield, has called on the government to "step up and take immediate action" to solve the crisis."

18% more people coming into A&E in the last six weeks compared to the same period last year

Covid patients in England increasing to 9,500 compared to 4,500 a few weeks ago

Some 3,750 flu sufferers in hospital beds compared to 520 one month ago

Delayed discharges of medically fit patients, which currently stands at 12,000

A growing population and a decline in living standards

9,500 NHS staff absent at the moment due to Covid"

But the government shouldn't need to say anything because your area is fine?

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Emmamoo89 · 02/01/2023 22:46

I'm sorry I had to laugh. Made me think of the times I used to put the butler in the fridge on tombraider 🤣🤣

Fireyflies · 02/01/2023 22:46

Keeping fit it great. But it is not our job to reduce pressure on the NHS . It is his job to ensure the NHS meets our needs. Which it clearly isn't doing right now. The idea that our lives should revolve around protecting the NHS was one of the most dangerous things we allowed to come out of the pandemic. Steve Barclay should be explaining to the PM and the rest of us what the fuck has gone wrong.

(Also getting unfit people jogging would surely increase the immediate pressure on the NHS anyway - due to injuries etc - whilst taking years to yield any positive benefits from better health)

Sukisal · 02/01/2023 22:46

catandcoffee · 02/01/2023 22:42

It really depends on the area you live in.

Family member in A+E suspected pneumonia in and out in 7 hours. including tests,bloods, and xrays.

I've also had 2 very quick hospital appointments when referred by GP.

Agreed.

there is absolutely a massive problem, scandalous in it’s scale, but it is not everywhere. I recognise it shouldn’t be anywhere, but I also believe in praise where it’s due.

we had excellent service last night through 111, OOH GP service and on site pharmacy.

noblegiraffe · 02/01/2023 22:49

I recognise it shouldn’t be anywhere, but I also believe in praise where it’s due.

I hope it is the NHS workers that you are praising, not the government whose job it is to address the areas where it is very clearly not working.

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noblegiraffe · 02/01/2023 22:51

Are the people voting that I'm unreasonable clicking the wrong button? How can you think that the current headlines don't require some sort of coherent response and plan of action from the government?

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Rowthe · 02/01/2023 22:51

This happens every year and worsens year on year.
Instead of putting in steps to try and fix the issue, they make the work conditions worse, give below inflation pay rises and basically dont have a clue.

No apparently we should stop sending our kids to school and stop going to work instead- that's the advice they've come with. As if that's a solution.

JanglyBeads · 02/01/2023 22:53

No one's said "It is impossible to obtain essential A&E care anywhere in the country". So how are individual stories of continuing good care relevant to this thread?

If the problem was only in one hospital, one health board, one area of the country even, do you think senior doctors including the Head of the Royal College of Emergency Medicine would be publicly calling upon the government to act, on New Year's Day?

Rowthe · 02/01/2023 22:53

Rowthe · 02/01/2023 22:51

This happens every year and worsens year on year.
Instead of putting in steps to try and fix the issue, they make the work conditions worse, give below inflation pay rises and basically dont have a clue.

No apparently we should stop sending our kids to school and stop going to work instead- that's the advice they've come with. As if that's a solution.

They know it is coming.

These pressure occur every single winter,. But they do nothing to fix it.

Next year will be the same but worse.

PointlessPoster · 02/01/2023 22:54

Good for you, you've had the experience the rest of the country should be having. Our hospital is on its knees. I genuinely don't know what else needs to happen for this government to DO SOMETHING.

Fireyflies · 02/01/2023 22:55

DD has been waiting for an outpatient appointment for over two years now, and had it cancelled last week for the 7th time. That's 7 times she's booked the day off work in order to make the appointment.

Meanwhile her 28 year old BF has had multiple small heart attacks causing debilitating pain for the last two months simply awaiting an ultrasound and 3D scan needed to figure out what's wrong. He's been off work, running into debt, calling up his GP to plead with her for help every week.

And MIL spent 9 hours on the floor last month after a fall with broken bones waiting for an ambulance, then a further 36 hours on a trolley in A&E.

This is so shit 😞😡

Endlesssummer2022 · 02/01/2023 22:55

Fireyflies · 02/01/2023 22:46

Keeping fit it great. But it is not our job to reduce pressure on the NHS . It is his job to ensure the NHS meets our needs. Which it clearly isn't doing right now. The idea that our lives should revolve around protecting the NHS was one of the most dangerous things we allowed to come out of the pandemic. Steve Barclay should be explaining to the PM and the rest of us what the fuck has gone wrong.

(Also getting unfit people jogging would surely increase the immediate pressure on the NHS anyway - due to injuries etc - whilst taking years to yield any positive benefits from better health)

Totally agree. The while ‘protect the NHS’ thing wound me up. Me and my children are supposed to suffer at home with a stiff upper lip to protect the NHS? Fuck that.

PointlessPoster · 02/01/2023 22:55

That was to @Sukisal

CallmeAngelina · 02/01/2023 23:06

We are in a national crisis. In any other scenario, Christmas holiday or not, the Government would (should) be out there and visible, reassuring us. Taking action.
But here? Tumbleweed.

Bluekerfuffle · 02/01/2023 23:07

The health secretary seems to think his job is to tell everyone to lock themselves in a padded room so they don’t have to use the health service.

Rowthe · 02/01/2023 23:09

Bluekerfuffle · 02/01/2023 23:07

The health secretary seems to think his job is to tell everyone to lock themselves in a padded room so they don’t have to use the health service.

Yup-
Dont drink over Christmas
/ boxing day.

If you have a fever dont send your kids to school.

Dont go to work if you have a fever.

What a load of shite.

Why cant they make the actual system do what it is supposed to do?

noblegiraffe · 02/01/2023 23:11

And while we're all supposed to not drink over New Year, not do anything risky, take up jogging, the government are refusing to even enter into pay negotiations with NHS workers meaning potentially more strikes that the government, through inaction will be responsible for, and they have also said NHS pay rises will be capped at 2% next year.

I'm sure that will help with the staff shortages.

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Whyjustwhy123 · 02/01/2023 23:11

It seems crazy that they are not doing all they can to make things a little better. They really don’t seem to give a fuck.

keeprunning55 · 02/01/2023 23:11

I saw this great initiative at my local sports centre yesterday, where if you have an obese child, you can use the place for free. This included bowling where the smell of rancid fried chips and sausages filled the air, right next to the vending machine.
I just thought-suppose the child did lose weight-enough to not be obese, would they then have to pay to go to the sports centre & hopefully not gain the weight again.
It’s a mad world.

Snazzysausage · 02/01/2023 23:12

The government? Where is the leadership? The reassurance that the problem is being addressed with urgency.
Exactly what I said to DH this morning after watching the news.Where the hell have the government disappeared to?!

Whyjustwhy123 · 02/01/2023 23:12

Yep a simple solution to actually increase wages. They could find the bloody money.

FatEaredFuck · 02/01/2023 23:13

Headlines for days. Try not to drive there will be no ambulance if you crash. Dont go out.

Absolutely fucking ridiculous.

Who is marching? Because I want to go with you.

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