Are they all hiding in a fucking fridge?

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The government? Where is the leadership? The reassurance that the problem is being addressed with urgency? Cobra meetings? Horrendous stories coming out of A&E departments right now.

Steve Barclay, the Health Secretary today announced on twitter that people should download the Couch to 5k app to reduce pressure on the NHS.

twitter.com/stevebarclay/status/1609957311610556416?s=61&t=rHTkCD1w_H9OmH9UB2E4UQ

Do your fucking job, Steve. And Rishi, show some leadership. You bloody wanted this job so badly, where have you gone?

www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-64142614

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Keeping fit is great. But it is not our job to reduce pressure on the NHS . It is his job to ensure the NHS meets our needs.

and this attitude sums up so much of the problem. The public are all about their rights and not about their responsibilities. I think it’s appalling

It infuriates me that the government wont increase the nurses wages. Nurses are leaving to goto agencies who then pay them double to go back into the job they left. The governmemt can afford it.

Near me this weekend, a man broke his tibia and fibia on friday. 999 told his family in no circumstances were they to get gim to hospital themselves as it was too dangerous with a double fracture.
He waited until monday for the ambulance to eventually arrive.
At this rate we do all need padded rooms to live in.

I think the Tory plan is to push the NHS crises down the line until the next election - then Labour will get in - they will fail to fix it (as there's no money) and when it is disastrous Tories will get back in again.

Surely the responsibility lies with the public to pay into the service and in turn the NHS protects the public.

An NHS which can't function unless people stay indoors and avoid all risky activity is not fit for purpose.

They want this to happen so they can privatise the lot. Bet most will still vote tory though " coz immigration/ Corbyn/ knowing what a woman is/ benefits" (insert right wing trope of choice.)

And expecting everyone to live a supremely healthy life with no risky behaviour is ridiculous.

I thought it was only me that did that. Happy days!

You do know there’s such a thing as balance, don’t you? It isn’t crack addiction or living off mountain spring water and avacados.

We were literally told just over a week ago by some government lackey to think twice about whether our journeys were necessary cuppa. That isn't normal or proportionate. Besides whihc, most accidents occur in the home. We are to keep the NHS running by becoming hermits, perhaps doing a jog round our back garden?

Couch to 5k lol so many unfit fat people (me) collapsing on the morning run with heart attacks/knee injuries. Great idea health minister.
YES OP where the fuck are they. I've been thinking this for weeks!!!!
I've started stockpiling food, barricading my home, thinking about getting a shotgun licence and making a tin foil helmet.
No sign of Rishi anywhere, has he been abducted by aliens?
I work in the NHS its worse than you can ever imagine a total disaster. We're losing people who shouldn't be dying. Half our staff are off with covid or flu.
I've given up trying to get treatment for my health condition and I'm self medicating with over the counter drugs.
I was meant to have an urgent blood test 3 months ago keeps getting cancelled.

Rishi is either protecting the NHS by not going out, or he is actually stuck on a trolley in a hospital corridor. That would explain the deafening silence.

And why are the opposition not also loudly asking that question?

They are also on holiday in the same Barbados resorts quaffing the same cocktails

YANBU. Was saying the same to my husband only yesterday OP.

The giver are stonewalling, gaslighting and minimising the problem. It’s abuse on a grand scale, they absolutely have blood on their hands.

people should download the Couch to 5k app to reduce pressure on the NHS.

The mental image made me chuckle. Ots super icy where I am. Like every step is defying nature and I have a mental image of elderly people with pneumonia trying to run on the ice in hopes of not needing treatment. I don't think anybody is doubting that fitter nation would need health services less and helath promotion is important. But it's a ridiculous statement.

I have an insurance and I've used public sector services in limited capacity cause its so impossible to get treatment. And I work for the service and don't use my own place of employment if not absolutely necessary

I'm looking forward to the state of schools in about 10 days- don't send your kids in if they are ill says the advice. Good idea, as all the staff will be at home with the fever that they'd normally go in with.
On the other hand, OFSTED is complaining that too many children are now absent from school.
Whole shitshambles is getting worse each day.

The Tories are intentionally doing nothing about anything, that's the whole point, they are nothing more than puppets doing as instructed by the WEF. Depopulation is full swing, it's all out there for you to read before anyone starts.

It’s taken 12 years of Tory government running the NHS down so yes, it will take a long time to get it right. At the moment all they’re doing is spouting a load of platitudes. I’m not a conspiracy theorist but I do feel that they’re ruining the NHS in order to privatise it and give their mates contracts worth millions like they did with ppe.

I'd be happy to see some of the nhs partially privatised. A mix of means tested insurance and govt funding is now our only solution, and a sensible one as we are getting older as a nation.

This is true. Where we live in north London, we are within 20 minutes of four different hospitals. From what local press is saying they are not overwhelmed in the way it's being nationally reported about other areas.

So, what happens to the NI payments we all already make?

Steve Barclay is an arse and is not helping matters at all.

Although I see where you're coming from, having been refused health insurance - for a condition that's no fault of my own - insurance won't be an option for a lot of people.

Just watch the insurance companies cherry pick who they want to insure. .

Not read the whole thread yet, which I know is very bad, but had to reply to this. My husband was referred for a colonoscopy on the 2 week cancer pathway. It took 7 weeks for him to get an appointment which found advanced bowel cancer. I’m now facing possibly being widowed in my early 40s with a small child. The NHS is failing.

Of course the money is there, the people at the top of the NHS should not be getting a pay rise.

We need to get rid of the ludicrous idea that we live in some kind of meritocracy and that everyone has the opportunity to be wealthy if they just work hard enough.

We need more equalisation in the job market. Where coincidentally, typically female industries (nursing, caring...) are 'worth' less than typically male industries (eg IT).

@Piggywaspushed NI is just another tax that goes in the general pot. Thete is no special find labelled "for the NHS".
The basic truth is we are an older and sicker society than when the NHS was founded and we and have not been paying enough to keep up.

This disaster has been a long time in the making, we all saw the implications of the baby boom gernration ageing and medical treatmenta keeping sick people alive for longer, but we looked the other way.