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To be angry that my family banned me from Christmas for having covid

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tantrumingcoldchild · 02/01/2023 02:42

I flew 4000 miles to see my parents for Christmas. I unfortunately have to live in a different country from them.

I am asymptomatic but had to test due to being exposed to someone with COVID.

My parent was supposed to pick me up from the airport but decided not to after the positive test.

I see my parent once a year at most. They don't travel to see me. My parent and the rest of their family went ahead with the celebration but I was uninvited.

Fortunately, my other parent picked me up and let me stay with them (my parents are divorced)

They have agreed to meet me in a park tomorrow for an hour, which will be the extent of my time with them for the next year.

AIBU to consider this relationship basically over?

OP posts:
MintyFreshOne · 04/01/2023 10:44

Anyone who travels surely understands that there is always a risk that Covid will alter plans one way or another these days

You aren’t gonna want to hear this, but the vast majority of travelers aren’t testing as governments aren’t requiring them to do so.

Pretty much only travelers from China are under these requirements and that’s more political than anything else.

Suedomin · 04/01/2023 10:48

was perfectly healthy when I left. I probably picked it up from family in the other city.
You may have appeared healthy but you still.had COVID and could have passed it on. Why did you test if you planned to go ahead with your plans even if positive?
It sounds as though you are the selfish one not caring about them . For some people COVID can still be a very serious illness and you don't seem at all concerned about possibly passing it on.

EndlessRain1 · 04/01/2023 10:49

I can't believe that people are saying OP is being spoilt and selfish by being told, on arrival at an airport 100s of miles from where she is meant to be and 1000s of miles from her home, with a small child, at Christmas, to "sort herself out". By the people who were her agreed transport and accomodation. And then for those people to not even boter to check up on their daughter and grandchild to see if they were ok.

Not being invited to Chritmas celebrations is NU. But the above is shitty, by any measure.

Mummieslncorporated · 04/01/2023 11:14

I can't believe that people are saying OP is being spoilt and selfish by being told, on arrival at an airport 100s of miles from where she is meant to be and 1000s of miles from her home, with a small child, at Christmas, to "sort herself out"

I can't believe op still hasn't explained why she was waiting at the airport for her parent when she claims didn't fly with COVID and that she got it while visiting relations in a different city. The only response that I can see is op saying they are being 'intentionally vague'.

There seems to be a lot of unbelievable things happening on this thread.

ichundich · 04/01/2023 11:27

Mummieslncorporated · 04/01/2023 11:14

I can't believe that people are saying OP is being spoilt and selfish by being told, on arrival at an airport 100s of miles from where she is meant to be and 1000s of miles from her home, with a small child, at Christmas, to "sort herself out"

I can't believe op still hasn't explained why she was waiting at the airport for her parent when she claims didn't fly with COVID and that she got it while visiting relations in a different city. The only response that I can see is op saying they are being 'intentionally vague'.

There seems to be a lot of unbelievable things happening on this thread.

Especially the unqualified allegations by randoms on the internet about OP's circumstances.

Mummieslncorporated · 04/01/2023 11:47

ichundich · 04/01/2023 11:27

Especially the unqualified allegations by randoms on the internet about OP's circumstances.

Is that aimed at me? I've made no allegations.. Just pointed out an inconsistency that op is refusing to acknowledge.

AnnieSnap · 04/01/2023 11:59

MintyFreshOne · 04/01/2023 10:40

There’s no good evidence that masks work in the real world. Pre-pandemic the consensus was they did not work … what has emerged since then to say definitively that they do?

What rubbish. A properly fitted high standard, filter mask (not the paper masks, ordinary cloth masks etc), can filter out 99.6% of viruses.

ichundich · 04/01/2023 12:03

Mummieslncorporated · 04/01/2023 11:47

Is that aimed at me? I've made no allegations.. Just pointed out an inconsistency that op is refusing to acknowledge.

Yes, you are claiming that OP must have been Covid+ before her flight, even though it's entirely possible that she became positive during or that she was only contacted by the person who gave Covid to her once she'd landed.

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 04/01/2023 12:07

tantrumingcoldchild · 02/01/2023 03:00

@upfucked they are in their 60s and are reasonably healthy

Covid can still be serious for someone who is 'reasonably healthy', @tantrumingcoldchild. I was 56 when I got it, and fairly healthy - and I'd had my first vaccine too - and I ended up in hospital because my O2 saturation dropped to the mid 80s. I was lucky in that I didn't need intensive care, but I was in hospital on oxygen for several days, and I have ended up with long covid.

I am permanently exhausted now, and I get breathless doing even the simplest thing - walking back from the loo to the front room for example. I really struggle to do anything round the house - I needed to have a sit down and rest after walking downstairs this morning, before I could make my coffee.

I wouldn't wish this on anyone, nor would I blame anyone for not wanting to risk ending up this way.

Mummieslncorporated · 04/01/2023 12:31

ichundich · 04/01/2023 12:03

Yes, you are claiming that OP must have been Covid+ before her flight, even though it's entirely possible that she became positive during or that she was only contacted by the person who gave Covid to her once she'd landed.

I haven't claimed any such thing. I'm just asking for clarity, which isn't forthcoming.

You are the one making assumptions.

poefaced · 04/01/2023 12:44

@Mummieslncorporated

She has already explained she changed some details so why harangue her when she is upset?

If you have concerns report to MNHQ instead of derailing the thread.

Mummieslncorporated · 04/01/2023 12:49

poefaced · 04/01/2023 12:44

@Mummieslncorporated

She has already explained she changed some details so why harangue her when she is upset?

If you have concerns report to MNHQ instead of derailing the thread.

My post was in response to someone that did seem to be claiming that she flew with covid, I was in a roundabout way pointing out that op claims otherwise

MintyFreshOne · 04/01/2023 12:50

AnnieSnap · 04/01/2023 11:59

What rubbish. A properly fitted high standard, filter mask (not the paper masks, ordinary cloth masks etc), can filter out 99.6% of viruses.

It most certainly cannot. Where are you getting that?

T1Dmama · 04/01/2023 13:14

It’s extremely unreasonable if you to expect family to see you while you’re positive with covid. Why would you want to spread it around to loved ones and potentially make people miss work/school etc…
Thus doesn’t mean the relationship is over, just unfortunate you had covid! Maybe another year test before leaving home.
I bet your parent was also upset about the visit being cancelled, But no way I’d go near anyone with covid/the flu, a stomach bug etc

Elaina87 · 04/01/2023 13:34

It's a hard one, how long were you here for? Are they expecting you to isolate from them for the whole time? You have to understand people's concern after everything that has happened. I'm pregnant and wouldn't want someone who had tested positive near me for a few days at least, but after 5 days if still asymptomatic I think I would be ok with it. It's a huge shame to end your relationship with your parent over this- how would you have felt if they'd caught it off you and were much more poorly than you?

AnnieSnap · 04/01/2023 13:36

MintyFreshOne · 04/01/2023 12:50

It most certainly cannot. Where are you getting that?

I didn’t realise you were a scientist 🙄
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32957638/

www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2452199X20301481

Britinme · 04/01/2023 14:15

We both had covid in August and my husband was totally asymptomatic and I had very mild symptoms. I tested because we were going to stay with a friend. If I hadn't tested, he would have had no reason to. Ten days later, I was negative but he still tested positive for Covid and we weren't allowed on a cruise we'd booked (thank goodness for good travel insurance). I think it would have been kind to have at least an outdoor meeting with masks on, but I understand not wanting to be at close quarters.

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MintyFreshOne · 04/01/2023 15:43

AnnieSnap · 04/01/2023 13:36

oh brother …

do you read ur links before you paste them? It’s beyond ridiculous. Direct quote from the article:

This research supports the use of fabric masks in the community to prevent the spread of SARS-CoV-2

Literally no one thinks this anymore.

Oh and this gem:

The best performing fabric masks were the cotton mask with a section of vacuum cleaner bag (VFE(6.0 µm) = 99.5%, VFE(2.6 µm) = 98.8%) or a dried baby wipe (VFE(6.0 µm) = 98.5%, VFE(2.6 µm) = 97.6%)

Dont worry about Covid guyz! Just put a dried baby wipe on your fabric mask and you’re good to go!

K9WessexGirl · 04/01/2023 16:16

Those could be side effects of the jab.

7vio · 04/01/2023 16:37

I feel sorry for you, OP. I travel thousand of miles once every couple of years to see my family, and can completely relate to this. I think a solution would be to ask you to wear a face mask but not seeing you and your young child is very OTT considering your circumstances. I think people who say that you are spoilt and unreasonable are those who don’t have to spend thousand of ££ to travel in order to see their parents, once a year. What if you got really sick on arrival?! Wouldn’t they let you in, would they expect you to stay in a hotel, by yourself, just you and your young child?! With no one to keep an eye on you?! I can’t imagine my parents doing it to me…I can’t imagine doing it to my own child, either.

7vio · 04/01/2023 16:42

T1Dmama · 04/01/2023 13:14

It’s extremely unreasonable if you to expect family to see you while you’re positive with covid. Why would you want to spread it around to loved ones and potentially make people miss work/school etc…
Thus doesn’t mean the relationship is over, just unfortunate you had covid! Maybe another year test before leaving home.
I bet your parent was also upset about the visit being cancelled, But no way I’d go near anyone with covid/the flu, a stomach bug etc

What if she got really unwell whilst traveling?! Would you still say it’s ok that her parents do not take her in because she has covid?! The test could show negative just before her departure and on arrival she tests negative and she feels rough. Would you say it’s ok for her parents to just abandon their sick daughter and her child at the airport because it turns out she has covid?! Jesus.

7vio · 04/01/2023 16:43

On arrival she tests positive, I meant to say…