I Blame King Charles

[Abigail69]

Charles is King.
He has the power/ability to remove the titles from Harry & Andrew.

If Charles is a modern King that "listens" to what people think as often mentioned in the media, why has he not removed their titles?

Another point, why was Andrew allowed during the Xmas walk about with other family members?

TBH, I could not stand Camilla but she has grown on me as has Charles. However, King Charles is going downhill fast if he does not act by removing Harry& Andrews's titles.

William/Kate and family, love them loads
Princess Ann and hubby (until recently I did not know what the bloke looked like) have grown on me.

Edward and their family have grown on me.

The majority of others, I have no time for.

AIBU in blaming Charles for not acting right now to remove titles?

If Charles did remove their titles, I'm sure the vast majority of the people in England would be happier.

The crown estate is owned by the crown, not the state.

“The Crown Estate is a collection of lands and holdings in the United Kingdom belonging to the British monarch as a corporation sole, making it "the sovereign's public estate", which is neither government property nor part of the monarch's private estate”

The monarch does get a % of the profits, called the sovereign grant. The rest goes into the Treasury and becomes public funds used for our benefit (if the government weren’t a bunch of wasters).

Yes, if the monarchy is abolished, the crown estate would become public property owned by the state. It would no doubt be sold off at rock bottom prices to massively enrich whichever PM and his/her cronies would be in charge at the time, and end up in private hands. Thereby denying the revenues to the Treasury.

Much like our student loans have been periodically sold off in batches at a fraction of their value to enrich the usual bottom feeding politicians’ boot lickers.

When there’s no-one to inherit it - as was the case where QEII was heir - it’s dealt with by the Crown I.e. the Monarch. Not crown estates, which is different.

The royal family keep the income, it’s just not dealt with by the heir.

It becomes public money after it is given to the Treasury by the Crown. Much like our tax money is private money until after we pay it to the Treasury.

Umm, no. The majority of people questioned in whatever poll want them to lose their titles. So maybe 10, 20, possibly 100 thousand, out of a population of 66 million, most of whom really don’t give a shit, and just want to know how to pay for fuel this winter.

Harry and Meghan should also lose their titles, and throne succession and any entitlement of public purse monies for now and the future considering their behaviour

You do realise that for Harry to become king, William and his entire family would need to be wiped out? What are the chances of that, do you think? I’m going to be conservative in my guesstimate and say fuck all.

I think even if we did abolish the monarchy, the RF would keep the Duchies of Cornwall and Lancaster, much like the Duke of Westminster has kept his duchy valued at over a billion £.

Only the Crown Estate would be confiscated by the state.

If I take anything from this thread it's @Mirabai buggery bollocks. 😂

He was given the title with the expectation that they would live in the UK and carry out royal duties. They do neither so their titles should be removed.

As I understand it, there would have to be an act of parliament to strip H and A of their titles or they could voluntarily give them up. I can’t see A doing that but as being a prince has been so damaging to his mental health, you’d think Harry would be keen to be Mr Windsor.

I think you’re right about the duchies and I think a deal would be struck on the Crown Estate. Unless there’s a revolution and the RF has to go into exile.

That not true as the media states at times that Charles is considering this so its up to hip

The media are wrong. They are correct when they say he is considering asking parliament to do it, but he cannot remove the peerages.

It is true. You’ve been provided with numerous links that show exactly that.

YABU. The entire RF is built on lies. Video

I read an article (might even have been here) that made the point that the RF does not tend to react in the timeframe people expect; that every move is considered and debated and government consulted when appropriate.

The very opposite of the trial and punishment by SM world in which we live today. That's why, for instance, the title of D of E remains unallocated.

So maybe the Dukedoms assigned to A and H will be revoked in time, but at a pace that is measured given once it's done it can't be undone.

Why in earth are you lumping Harry in with creepy Andrew? Fed up with all the hatred towards Harry and Meghan.

Was that to me? I don't hate H, M or even A.

I'm simply assuming that sooner or later moves will be made to stop the Sussexes having the kind of proximity to make peddling their stories to the highest bidder a factor, and that A will be distanced to obscurity.

Andrew has already been sidelined. It is correct to point out that he hasn't been charged with any offense (unlike, for example, the disgraced former King of Spain) and he no longer represents the royals in any formal capacity. Ideally, he would keep well out of sight, but there is no reason IMO why he shouldn't go to church.

Harry and Meghan have supposedly 'left' the RF for sunnier climes and yet clearly have very little going on in their lives. Hence the perpetual baiting and undermining of the royal family for cash, the continual criticising of Harry's wider family and the institution they represent. Ideally, H&M would dispense with the hypocrisy and either stop trading on the titles or put an end to the endless, deliberately vague criticisms of people who can't defend themselves.

Unfortunately, they are both too stupid and too lacking in self-awareness to realise that the people they are damaging most in the long run are themselves and their children. They are now 'royal' in name only, both here and abroad - the public mostly see them as a bit of a crass embarrassment. Most B and even C-level celebs will be avoiding any association with them.

In short, I don't think Charles needs to remove their titles. Every family has the odd embarrassing member, we can all relate to that and it doesn't reflect on the rest. Stand back and they will hoist themselves on their own petards soon enough

Isn't he still grieving?

Very few big changes, other than ones that highlight the security of the line of succession, ever happen before the Coronation.

Charles has banned Andrew from having an office based at Buckingham Palace. He's also been reported as wanting Royal Lodge as a family home for William and Kate.

Harry's circumstances are different as he gave up his position as a working member of the RF so he could earn his own living. In the long term can Harry and Meghan earn enough to fund their lifestyle. Harry is currently a UK citizen with a UK base but will he become a US citizen and have to give up his title? It'll be interesting to see if they come to the UK for the Coronation.

H & M will need to come to the Coronation to fuel their next project

Given Charles is the kind of man to accept suitcases full of cash from dodgy dictatorships, I don't think he's the moral arbiter you need for this.

H & M will need to come to the Coronation to fuel their next project

if they do turn up, they’ll have to content themselves with the cheap seats 😁

Why is Charles being so weak? More media stories from Mr Harry and how much more will William and Charles have to take to remove Harry's title?

Removing, and or a real threat of that IMHO will put Mr Harry back on the right path.