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I Blame King Charles

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Abigail69 · 30/12/2022 11:40

Charles is King.
He has the power/ability to remove the titles from Harry & Andrew.

If Charles is a modern King that "listens" to what people think as often mentioned in the media, why has he not removed their titles?

Another point, why was Andrew allowed during the Xmas walk about with other family members?

TBH, I could not stand Camilla but she has grown on me as has Charles. However, King Charles is going downhill fast if he does not act by removing Harry& Andrews's titles.

William/Kate and family, love them loads
Princess Ann and hubby (until recently I did not know what the bloke looked like) have grown on me.

Edward and their family have grown on me.

The majority of others, I have no time for.

AIBU in blaming Charles for not acting right now to remove titles?

If Charles did remove their titles, I'm sure the vast majority of the people in England would be happier.

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CornflakeKerry · 30/12/2022 11:57

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x2boys · 30/12/2022 11:57

Abigail69 · 30/12/2022 11:43

They do EG people/majority want Andrew and harry to lose their titles. Google it.

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According to whom ,they haven't asked me ,thsee type of polls tend to be s started by people with an agenda ,to " prove "what ever they want to prove ,personally I think we should get rid of the lot of them,I bet if,I started a poll and asked, the right sort of people ,the " majority "
Would agree with me too.

WandaWonder · 30/12/2022 11:58

misssunshine4040 · 30/12/2022 11:45

EnglandHe's not just England's King you know Hmm

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The last paragraph of the op said england, that is what I was referring too

LlynTegid · 30/12/2022 11:59

Removing the titles from Prince Andrew yes, and also his place in the line of succession. Not the Duke and Duchess of Sussex.

Brendabigbaps · 30/12/2022 11:59

gogohmm · 30/12/2022 11:48

His only been king a short time, he'll still be learning the essential elements of the role (constitutional) so internal family politics is not going to be a priority.

Andrew went to church, he hasn't actually got any form of conviction. I'm pretty sure the "what to do about Andrew is on his to do list but not near the top. Harry however is different as for everyone who would support such action, others do not - my impression is that he is being given enough rope at the moment and it's a wait and see situation... he's his dad, cut him some slack

He didn’t apply for the job 6mths ago and is currently in a probation period!!
He’s lived along side the role for 70+ years. He knows that job better than anyone and will have done for many many years.

DrMarciaFieldstone · 30/12/2022 12:01

Gosh, and he didn’t think to ask you of who you do and don’t personally like?

Novella4 · 30/12/2022 12:01

BiggerBoat1 · 30/12/2022 11:44

I think the line that has been drawn is that Andrew participates in family events (such as funeral, Christmas) but you won't see him representing the Royal Family elsewhere. Seems like a fair compromise to me.

That's wrong

There is no distinction between public and private with the 'royals'

The queens funeral was a public event - Andrew walking behind the coffin in Edinburgh was a state occasion . Allowing Andrew to walk was designed to get the maliable royal supporters to accept him

He could have gone directly to the church and sat there privately . He didn't .

He was walking to the church on Christmas Day - that is not 'private ' that is tacit support .
The royals are showing you who they value . Suck it up or oppose them .

Btw there is no such thing as a 'working' royal - it's all made up PR from Lizzie s reign when they realised they'd better look like they 'do' sometging

x2boys · 30/12/2022 12:01

custardbear · 30/12/2022 11:51

What about the lies and selling out his family for hard cash.

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What lies?
Just because you don't believe H&M doesn't mean they were lying .

Comedycook · 30/12/2022 12:02

I really do dislike how Harry and Andrew are always mentioned together as if the two situations are comparable.

TheKeatingFive · 30/12/2022 12:02

Did Meghan 'steal your prince' OP? Diddums.

Letitrainletitrainletitrain · 30/12/2022 12:02

custardbear · 30/12/2022 11:51

What about the lies and selling out his family for hard cash.

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Ah yes, lying and selling their tell all story, obviously on par with hanging out with sex traffickers 🙄

GolfEchoRomeoTangoIndia · 30/12/2022 12:05

custardbear · 30/12/2022 11:51

What about the lies and selling out his family for hard cash.

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If Harry has treated his family badly then that's between him and them to deal with. There's no public interest in him being punished if his family, who are the only "victims" are OK with it. Andrew's behaviour is in a completely different league.

It's the difference between "my DB deliberately got me a really shit Christmas present, should I cut contact?" (that's entirely up to you love) and "my DB has received a caution for viewing images of CSA, should I cut contact" (definitely yes)

Hereward1332 · 30/12/2022 12:06

As a PP said, titles can only be removed by an act of Parliament, not at the whim of the sovereign. This was confirmed in the Buckhurst Peerage Case (1876). Stripping the Dukes of Cumberland and Albany of their titles for fighting in the German army in World War One required the Titles Deprivation Act (1917); I don't think Harry's PR potshots are quite as egregious crimes.

mumofone2019 · 30/12/2022 12:09

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StaunchMomma · 30/12/2022 12:09

I'm not interested in the slightest now the Queen has passed.

I say fair play to H&M for escaping the utterly bullshit system that Charles bows to. I wouldn't put up with that shit either.

I genuinely hope to here hardly a peep about any of them in the near future.

StaunchMomma · 30/12/2022 12:10

Hear

x2boys · 30/12/2022 12:10

custardbear · 30/12/2022 11:52

Lies, cheating, narcissism and generally trying to take down the RF

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Can you, explain the lies, cheating and narcissism, ?
You may not like them and that's entirely your prerogative ,however that does not make them liers,cheaters or narcissist ,s

OoooohMatron · 30/12/2022 12:11

I really couldn't care less. Even if titles are removed, they will still be filthy rich and over-privileged with wealth they haven't earned. Even if Prince Andrew was just Andrew, he won't be working a 9-5 and living in a 3 bed semi worrying about the heating bill. What difference would it make to remove titles.

SoupDragon · 30/12/2022 12:12

If Charles did remove their titles, I'm sure the vast majority of the people in England would be happier.

what a load of nonsense.

otherwayup · 30/12/2022 12:13

Abigail69 · 30/12/2022 11:40

Charles is King.
He has the power/ability to remove the titles from Harry & Andrew.

If Charles is a modern King that "listens" to what people think as often mentioned in the media, why has he not removed their titles?

Another point, why was Andrew allowed during the Xmas walk about with other family members?

TBH, I could not stand Camilla but she has grown on me as has Charles. However, King Charles is going downhill fast if he does not act by removing Harry& Andrews's titles.

William/Kate and family, love them loads
Princess Ann and hubby (until recently I did not know what the bloke looked like) have grown on me.

Edward and their family have grown on me.

The majority of others, I have no time for.

AIBU in blaming Charles for not acting right now to remove titles?

If Charles did remove their titles, I'm sure the vast majority of the people in England would be happier.

I suggest a hobby op.
Or is your hobby having an unhealthy, over the top interest in a family of strangers who couldn't give a shit what you think?

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 30/12/2022 12:15

GolfEchoRomeoTangoIndia · 30/12/2022 11:48

YABU because you're bundling Harry, whose "crime" is that he's married a slightly annoying woman and moved to America, in with Andrew, who hung around with a known sex trafficker and paid off a woman who made very plausible and serious criminal allegations against him.

This!

I really fail to see what Harry’s done wrong, whereas Andrew is likely an actual criminal (albeit not convincted) and at best hung about with and condoned a convicted criminal

DifferentYearSameShit · 30/12/2022 12:16

He can't remove the Prince titles are they were born into the family.

KloppsTeeth · 30/12/2022 12:16

To be fai, titles are made up bollocks. Who has what title doesn’t influence my life in any way, and the vast majority of our lives so, even thought people
feel strongly one way or another about these people, it is better to spend energy focused on things that do change your life, like the government and their policies, or those wonderful people who tirelessly give their own time on earth to make others lives better without any reward.

ChazsBrilliantAttitude · 30/12/2022 12:17

In the overall scheme of what is happening in the UK and the world this barely registers. H&M don't care, it's a personal family matter. PA I think Charles and his advisors know that there is little hope of rehabilitating him in the public perception and I suspect Charles won't want his monarchy to become about his brother so PA will stay relatively sidelined.

MadameCholetsDirtySecret · 30/12/2022 12:18

I care. I care that we have an unelected family as HOS. Imagine if Andrew was the eldest son. We have no way to stop his accession to the throne. I am a republican and nothing will ever dissuade me if this position.

BTW I’m a not an ‘off with their heads’ republican- they can continue to live their lives in the gossip pages if they chose, just get out of our democracy and pay your taxes.

And to those who say we could get a trump, it would only be for 4 years and let’s hope we get an Obama.