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I Blame King Charles

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Abigail69 · 30/12/2022 11:40

Charles is King.
He has the power/ability to remove the titles from Harry & Andrew.

If Charles is a modern King that "listens" to what people think as often mentioned in the media, why has he not removed their titles?

Another point, why was Andrew allowed during the Xmas walk about with other family members?

TBH, I could not stand Camilla but she has grown on me as has Charles. However, King Charles is going downhill fast if he does not act by removing Harry& Andrews's titles.

William/Kate and family, love them loads
Princess Ann and hubby (until recently I did not know what the bloke looked like) have grown on me.

Edward and their family have grown on me.

The majority of others, I have no time for.

AIBU in blaming Charles for not acting right now to remove titles?

If Charles did remove their titles, I'm sure the vast majority of the people in England would be happier.

OP posts:
TheKeatingFive · 30/12/2022 18:55

We don’t pay for their kids education

It'll come out of sovereign grant or Duchy money so de facto we do

Joshitai · 30/12/2022 19:06

TheKeatingFive · 30/12/2022 18:55

We don’t pay for their kids education

It'll come out of sovereign grant or Duchy money so de facto we do

First: Andrew, Harry & Meghan get zero income from the sovereign grant or duchy

Second: neither the sovereign fund nor the duchies are funded by taxes.

So, no our taxes do not pay for any royal children to go to private schools.

TheKeatingFive · 30/12/2022 19:18

First: Andrew, Harry & Meghan get zero income from the sovereign grant or duchy

Andrew is funded directly or indirectly from one of these sources, that's not true. And Harry has been.

Its public money if not specifically direct from the tax payer.

Joshitai · 30/12/2022 19:43

TheKeatingFive · 30/12/2022 19:18

First: Andrew, Harry & Meghan get zero income from the sovereign grant or duchy

Andrew is funded directly or indirectly from one of these sources, that's not true. And Harry has been.

Its public money if not specifically direct from the tax payer.

No, Andrew is not funded from these sources, never was. When he did royal duties, he was reimbursed expenses for only those duties from these sources. That was it. It didn’t pay for his DCs school fees. Today, as he’s been stripped of all that, he gets nothing. Zero.

Harry has been, it’s true, but again it was reimbursement of expenses doing royal duties up until Harry decided to stop being a working royal. Charles also gave him a lump sum from Charles’ private funds. Harry gets nothing towards his childrens future school fees nor will he.

TheKeatingFive · 30/12/2022 19:46

No, Andrew is not funded from these sources, never was

Yes he was, if indirectly via the queen.

How do you think he was funded?

Today, as he’s been stripped of all that, he gets nothing. Zero.

This is naive. He has household expenses and no personal income. Where's his money coming from?

Vitriolinsanity · 30/12/2022 20:09

Hasn't William taken over the Duchy now?

TheKeatingFive · 30/12/2022 20:15

There are two duchies. Plus the SG.

Blossomtoes · 30/12/2022 20:15

TheKeatingFive · 30/12/2022 19:46

No, Andrew is not funded from these sources, never was

Yes he was, if indirectly via the queen.

How do you think he was funded?

Today, as he’s been stripped of all that, he gets nothing. Zero.

This is naive. He has household expenses and no personal income. Where's his money coming from?

The RF has personal money as well as income from the Sovereign Grant and Duchy of Cornwall.

TheKeatingFive · 30/12/2022 20:18

The RF has personal money as well as income from the Sovereign Grant and Duchy of Cornwall.

Yes.

That doesn't mean they're using that to fund Andrew.

Blossomtoes · 30/12/2022 20:21

TheKeatingFive · 30/12/2022 20:18

The RF has personal money as well as income from the Sovereign Grant and Duchy of Cornwall.

Yes.

That doesn't mean they're using that to fund Andrew.

We don’t know how he’s funded, do we? All we have is speculation.

TheKeatingFive · 30/12/2022 20:27

It seems he received a stipend from the Queen of £250,000 from the sovereign grant as a starting point.

theconversation.com/amp/prince-andrew-where-settlement-money-will-come-from-and-why-he-should-no-longer-be-a-prince-177254

www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-02-19/prince-andrew-sex-abuse-settlement-turns-focus-on-royal-finances

What Charles is giving him now is anyone's guess, but no reason at all to dip into private money as they'll never have to decades the accounts to anyone.

Blossomtoes · 30/12/2022 20:32

TheKeatingFive · 30/12/2022 20:27

It seems he received a stipend from the Queen of £250,000 from the sovereign grant as a starting point.

theconversation.com/amp/prince-andrew-where-settlement-money-will-come-from-and-why-he-should-no-longer-be-a-prince-177254

www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-02-19/prince-andrew-sex-abuse-settlement-turns-focus-on-royal-finances

What Charles is giving him now is anyone's guess, but no reason at all to dip into private money as they'll never have to decades the accounts to anyone.

The second link is behind a firewall, while the first one makes it clear that income from the Duchy of Lancaster is regarded as personal income and is taxed as such.

TheKeatingFive · 30/12/2022 20:33

income from the Duchy of Lancaster is regarded as personal income and is taxed as such

It's Duchy income, not sure what your point is here. It's not Windsor money.

longwayoff · 30/12/2022 20:33

What is 'public money' that 'isnt from the taxpayer'? Can we have some? I'm a much nicer person than PA.

TheKeatingFive · 30/12/2022 20:36

What is 'public money' that 'isnt from the taxpayer'? Can we have some? I'm a much nicer person than PA.

it's money set to fund the legal entity of 'the crown' that the royals have unique access to, though it doesn't belong to them as a private family.

im sure we all wish we had access to it 😂

Blossomtoes · 30/12/2022 20:38

TheKeatingFive · 30/12/2022 20:33

income from the Duchy of Lancaster is regarded as personal income and is taxed as such

It's Duchy income, not sure what your point is here. It's not Windsor money.

It’s not taxpayers’ money either.

TheKeatingFive · 30/12/2022 20:39

it's not direct from the tax payer, no. It's public money.

Coucous · 30/12/2022 20:40

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VeniVidiWeeWee · 30/12/2022 20:55

Abigail69 · 30/12/2022 18:23

Total BS with some respect. Charles has the authority and that is a fact.

Show quote history

No it isn't.

And if you disagree please quote your source.

Blossomtoes · 30/12/2022 20:58

TheKeatingFive · 30/12/2022 20:39

it's not direct from the tax payer, no. It's public money.

Not according to your first link it isn’t.

Endlesssummer2022 · 30/12/2022 21:08

People who minimise Andrew’s behaviour or equate Harry with him need their internet history checking as they clearly have strange attitudes towards child sex trafficking.

VeniVidiWeeWee · 30/12/2022 21:28

Endlesssummer2022 · 30/12/2022 21:08

People who minimise Andrew’s behaviour or equate Harry with him need their internet history checking as they clearly have strange attitudes towards child sex trafficking.

And your proof of this is...

Novella4 · 30/12/2022 21:29

@Endlesssummer2022

If you look at the 'royal family' threads you'll see endless deflection and even defence of Andrew

Must be hard work maintaining admiration for the 'royals' in 2022

TeaAndTattoos · 30/12/2022 21:31

He can’t remove Harry’s title because he is a prince by birth right which means that Meghan would become a Princess and we don’t want that. That’s why he’s not removed Harry’s title. Andrew on the other hand he needs his title removing.

Novella4 · 30/12/2022 21:35

The Duchy of Cornwall cannot be inherited by a woman ( nice - but what do you expect ?)

So what happens to it when there is no man to inherit ?
It is absorbed into the ' crown' estate . The name is misleading - the crown estate is not owned by the crown . It is owned by the state and the royals get a percentage of the profits .
When the Windsors are finally gotten rid off , 100% of the revenue will go to the state .