Page 4 | I Blame King Charles

Abigail69 · 2022-12-30T11:40:33+00:00

Charles is King. He has the power/ability to remove the titles from Harry & Andrew. If Charles is a modern King that "listens" to what people think as often mentioned in the media, why has he not removed their titles? Another point, why was Andrew allowed during the Xmas walk about with other family members? TBH, I could not stand Camilla but she has grown on me as has Charles. However, King Charles is going downhill fast if he does not act by removing Harry& Andrews's titles. William/Kate and family, love them loads Princess Ann and hubby (until recently I did not know what the bloke looked like) have grown on me. Edward and their family have grown on me. The majority of others, I have no time for. AIBU in blaming Charles for not acting right now to remove titles? If Charles did remove their titles, I'm sure the vast majority of the people in England would be happier.

TheKeatingFive · 30/12/2022 12:50

What? Like how the Russians have grown up?

you are aware that Russia is not the only country to get rid of their monarchy, right?

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Abigail69 · 30/12/2022 12:52

MeMyBooksAndMyCats · 30/12/2022 11:43

He's considering it. It was in the news a little while ago, I imagine it'll be next year. Andrew really needs to go.

I hope so, thanks.

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Abigail69 · 30/12/2022 12:55

BiggerBoat1 · 30/12/2022 11:44

I think the line that has been drawn is that Andrew participates in family events (such as funeral, Christmas) but you won't see him representing the Royal Family elsewhere. Seems like a fair compromise to me.

I disagree as he is getting the limelight as he wants and should not have been allowed.

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DashboardConfessional · 30/12/2022 12:58

Do you? I blame empty-headed numbnuts who give a lot more fucks about what title Harry has and whether he's lied about who said what to whom, than who is running the government and what they're doing to the everyday lives of British citizens.

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Abigail69 · 30/12/2022 12:59

Newwardrobe · 30/12/2022 12:19

His only been king a short time, he'll still be learning the essential elements of the role (constitutional) so internal family politics is not going to be a priority

Charles has had literally decades to learn the job , if he hasn't got the rules under his belt by now then he needs to go on a performance review.

Really. He knew about Andrew and harry's problems and the media had been demanding on behalf of the majority in England that titles were removed.

It only takes a second to set the motions into place to get titles removed.

IMO, if Harry had his removed, Harry would be a better person and more likely to fall in line with family and once again be liked by the majority in England

Re Andrew, best to keep out of the media and not to tarnish the name of the royal lot.

So I do blame King Charles for not acting as yet

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Abigail69 · 30/12/2022 13:01

DashboardConfessional · 30/12/2022 12:58

Do you? I blame empty-headed numbnuts who give a lot more fucks about what title Harry has and whether he's lied about who said what to whom, than who is running the government and what they're doing to the everyday lives of British citizens.

Get a grip. MN is big enough for you to blow your own little trumpet re the government.

As for your insults aimed at me and the majority of those that are like-minded about the titles, just shows that people can debate more than one subject.

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SKIPWAY · 30/12/2022 13:02

Wallis Simpson was allowed to remain Duchess of Windsor and that was after her husband abdicated so I very much doubt Harry and meghan would lose their titles. As for Andrew I think he should so the sensible thing and slip away quietly, it may me be obvious to him that his friendship, dealings or what ever may have occurred happened, happened but there are no formal charges against him (yet) and I don't think the King can de-prince him, the honory titles yes but I think that will be done slowly and quietly as more of the story comes out.

808Kate1 · 30/12/2022 13:02

It only takes a second to set the motions into place to get titles removed.

Beyond naive.

IMO, if Harry had his removed, Harry would be a better person and more likely to fall in line with family and once again be liked by the majority in England

Stop letting yourself be told what to believe by DM, Jeremy Clarkson, Piers Morgan, GB News and their ilk.

PP was right, the media have done a number on you!

Beezknees · 30/12/2022 13:03

I'd like to see the whole monarchy abolished personally including Charles.

YetMoreNewBeginnings · 30/12/2022 13:05

Removing titles sets two problems for Charles.

Firstly in Harry’s case the loss of the Sussex dukedom would lead to Harry and Meghan being Prince and Princess Harry. Which the press would quickly change to Prince Harry and Princess Meghan. It would be incorrect, but as we saw previously with “Princess Diana” (never her title) and currently “Princess Kate” (not her title) it would happen.

Secondly going through Parliament and having the Princely titles removed would show the public that it can be done, and relatively easily.
He knows that would be a start. Imagine if the public knew how easy it was when he was so unpopular at the time of Diana’s death… He’d have been stuffed.
He, and William, know that any of them or one of William’s kids could be the next one to do something that gets them on to the shit list and if it starts being easy to rid a royal or two here and there then it’ll be the end of them in their position. And they don’t want to lose that.

Newwardrobe · 30/12/2022 13:05

How on earth can you know that Harry would be a better person if he had his titles removed?

longwayoff · 30/12/2022 13:06

I know it's a slack time between Christmas and new year but bloody hell OP, have you really nothing better to do with your time? Titles? Mean a lot to them and very little to anyone else apart from royal obsessives.

blubberyboo · 30/12/2022 13:14

Yabu

Charles doesn’t have the authority to remove titles..it requires an act of parliament.

The Duke of Windsor got to keep title after abdicating and hanging out with Hitler so I don’t think the sussexes have much to fear.

if they lost their dukedoms they would still be Prince Harry and Princess Henry. And Prince Andrew .as it’s their birthright so pointless as this almost elevates them higher in day to day language. Removing dukedoms could also be seen as an insult to the late queen so he’ll act carefully before doing anything like that.

I expect Charles will let the Sussexes run on and gradually they’ll have less and less involvement when they run out of things to say. Andrew will only be there at family events. By applying to change counsellors of state to ensure only Camilla, William, Anne, Edward and Beatrice are needed he has effective made sure they won’t be needed in public life

x2boys · 30/12/2022 13:20

Abigail69 · 30/12/2022 12:59

Really. He knew about Andrew and harry's problems and the media had been demanding on behalf of the majority in England that titles were removed.

It only takes a second to set the motions into place to get titles removed.

IMO, if Harry had his removed, Harry would be a better person and more likely to fall in line with family and once again be liked by the majority in England

Re Andrew, best to keep out of the media and not to tarnish the name of the royal lot.

So I do blame King Charles for not acting as yet

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Who says Harry isn't liked?
I Wouldn't go.off the media and threads on mumsnet tbh

SerendipityJane · 30/12/2022 13:21

Perhaps lose the whole monarchy. Would solve everything.

Novella4 · 30/12/2022 13:22

MadameCholetsDirtySecret · 30/12/2022 12:18

I care. I care that we have an unelected family as HOS. Imagine if Andrew was the eldest son. We have no way to stop his accession to the throne. I am a republican and nothing will ever dissuade me if this position.

BTW I’m a not an ‘off with their heads’ republican- they can continue to live their lives in the gossip pages if they chose, just get out of our democracy and pay your taxes.

And to those who say we could get a trump, it would only be for 4 years and let’s hope we get an Obama.

Yes all of this

The royalists can keep their 'king' if they want . Maybe on subscription- like Netflix...?lol

DashboardConfessional · 30/12/2022 13:22

Abigail69 · 30/12/2022 13:01

Get a grip. MN is big enough for you to blow your own little trumpet re the government.

As for your insults aimed at me and the majority of those that are like-minded about the titles, just shows that people can debate more than one subject.

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Yes, I'm sure there is a lot of balanced political debate among those who are also the people busy consuming the distractive anti-H&M crap the right-leaning media is feeding them.😁

Novella4 · 30/12/2022 13:29

Lifeomars · 30/12/2022 12:31

I think that this country won't grow up until we dispense with the monarchy, the mere fact that there is going to be an extravagant coronation at a time of financial disaster for so many people speaks volumes about how those in power try to manage the agenda to distract people from the very real problems we face. The popular media is stuffed to the gills with anecdotes about them all, and it is done purposely to distract the population from the fact that this country is barely functioning, "oh look at Kate's earrings", "isn't little Louis a character!" " Harry and Meghan should be banned from the UK" on and on it goes and none of it matters, it is just a massive sideshow

100%

The 'royals' are a great distraction from a UK which is falling apart

The NHS is on its knees but look at Charles' shiny magic hat!
There's also an element of ( generally older) people thinking the UK monarchy is somehow special

They are certainly unique in Europe in the amount they cost and the amount of unearned power they have
No other European monarchy has a coronation. It's a completely unnecessary PR event - there is no constitutional purpose
100 million wasted on a vanity event for Charles
Will he pay for it all himself ?
That would be a start.
Otherwise it's an insult .

Ponoka7 · 30/12/2022 13:31

How can Charles condemn Andrew when if he had has his way Jimmy Saville would have been Harry's godfather? Charles gave Saville his power and with Thatcher made him untouchable. Then we have Charles sheltering another pedophile, Bishop Peter Ball. People in glass houses can't throw stones.
There probably a lot more that Harry could say. We either buy into birthright bullshit or we don't. I support H&M, I wouldn't want a royal life. Harry is a born Prince, he'll die a Prince. I don't think that the Queen came into the modern world as quick as she should have. There's exceptionally toxic people behind the throne.

TimeFlysWhenYoureHavingRum · 30/12/2022 13:34

The monarchy is not a democratic institution. What you or any other member of the public (even a "majority" of them) has nothing to do with how it operates.
That's why I and many others would love to see an end to it.
Abolishing the Lords will be a good first step.

GrazingSheep · 30/12/2022 15:21

I think Charles financial affairs should be completely transparent. Trousering suitcases of cash from Middle Eastern sheiks isn’t the best look really.

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Abigail69 · 30/12/2022 16:01

Ponoka7 · 30/12/2022 13:31

How can Charles condemn Andrew when if he had has his way Jimmy Saville would have been Harry's godfather? Charles gave Saville his power and with Thatcher made him untouchable. Then we have Charles sheltering another pedophile, Bishop Peter Ball. People in glass houses can't throw stones.
There probably a lot more that Harry could say. We either buy into birthright bullshit or we don't. I support H&M, I wouldn't want a royal life. Harry is a born Prince, he'll die a Prince. I don't think that the Queen came into the modern world as quick as she should have. There's exceptionally toxic people behind the throne.

About Charles and "jimmy.." not fair and not called for.

People can know people without being aware what the other person is doing.

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Mentalpiece · 30/12/2022 16:05

www.bbc.com/news/explainers-59993936

He has lost his titles op.

TheKeatingFive · 30/12/2022 16:12

He hasn't lost his dukedom

Blossomtoes · 30/12/2022 16:17

Abigail69 · 30/12/2022 16:01

About Charles and "jimmy.." not fair and not called for.

People can know people without being aware what the other person is doing.

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Methinks you want to have it both ways.