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I Blame King Charles

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Abigail69 · 30/12/2022 11:40

Charles is King.
He has the power/ability to remove the titles from Harry & Andrew.

If Charles is a modern King that "listens" to what people think as often mentioned in the media, why has he not removed their titles?

Another point, why was Andrew allowed during the Xmas walk about with other family members?

TBH, I could not stand Camilla but she has grown on me as has Charles. However, King Charles is going downhill fast if he does not act by removing Harry& Andrews's titles.

William/Kate and family, love them loads
Princess Ann and hubby (until recently I did not know what the bloke looked like) have grown on me.

Edward and their family have grown on me.

The majority of others, I have no time for.

AIBU in blaming Charles for not acting right now to remove titles?

If Charles did remove their titles, I'm sure the vast majority of the people in England would be happier.

OP posts:
ClarathecrosseyedLioness · 30/12/2022 12:18

@custardbear Get rid of Andrew from the palace and his titles

You've got one of your wishes - he's already been 'evicted' from Buck House ; metro.co.uk/2022/12/24/prince-andrew-on-his-own-after-being-banned-from-buckingham-palace-17992169/

Newwardrobe · 30/12/2022 12:19

His only been king a short time, he'll still be learning the essential elements of the role (constitutional) so internal family politics is not going to be a priority

Charles has had literally decades to learn the job , if he hasn't got the rules under his belt by now then he needs to go on a performance review.

3peassuit · 30/12/2022 12:19

If PH isn’t living here and doing royal work, I don’t see why he should use his title. PA, though a vile person, hasn’t been convicted of a crime and might pop up on family occasions. He will never represent the UK or the royals in any public role.
Can KC remove their titles even if he wishes to, wouldn’t that require an act of parliament?

Mirabai · 30/12/2022 12:19

I don’t give a buggery bollocks either way.

I’d much rather see Prince Andrew properly investigated for money laundering, I don’t see what difference removing his title makes. He’s still a twat.

fancyacuppatea · 30/12/2022 12:19

@Abigail69 Slow day in your house, is it? 🤦‍♀️

FWIW I give no shits about Andrew or Harry and Meghan. They've all made their beds...

Cattenberg · 30/12/2022 12:20

I think it’s time for the monarchy to go now. However, as Charles has waited so long to become King, I think a gradual phasing out would be best.

ChiefPearlClutcher · 30/12/2022 12:21

It’s not a Disney movie, that’s not how
it works

Getamoveon36 · 30/12/2022 12:21

Not defending Andrew here. But he has effectively been sacked as any kind of working royal. He doesn’t represent the country in any official capacity. Also, whilst his judgement is fucking terrible and he is obviously a liar and a sleaze at he hasn’t been convicted of anything? What exactly do you want KC to do - never allow him to be seen with his family again?

don’t agree with removing titles from H&M either btw. They are a pair of petulant navel gazing narcs who are best ignored, wouldn’t give them any more attention, which title removing almost certainly would.

Ourlittleharmonica · 30/12/2022 12:22

I think the monarchy should be abolished and EVERYONE'S titles removed and that YABVVVVVU for bringing this topic in here yet AGAIN

Joshitai · 30/12/2022 12:23

DifferentYearSameShit · 30/12/2022 12:16

He can't remove the Prince titles are they were born into the family.

This is true. Harry & Andrew would have to voluntarily relinquish these titles as they acquired them at birth:

Prince Phillip did this to marry Queen Elizabeth II:
”Before the official announcement of their engagement in July 1947, Philip relinquished his Greek and Danish royal titles and styles, became a naturalised British subject, and adopted his maternal grandparents' surname Mountbatten.” (He had been born Prince of Greece and Denmark.)

”In 1957, he was created a British prince.” by Queen Elizabeth II and Parliament.

Ivyonafence · 30/12/2022 12:23

GolfEchoRomeoTangoIndia · 30/12/2022 11:48

YABU because you're bundling Harry, whose "crime" is that he's married a slightly annoying woman and moved to America, in with Andrew, who hung around with a known sex trafficker and paid off a woman who made very plausible and serious criminal allegations against him.

I agree with this.

I think the whole circus should be abolished, but if we're picking and choosing maybe we should start with the pedophile sympathisers before getting to people who marry Californians.

MrsFinkelstein · 30/12/2022 12:23
  1. The King does not have the power to remove titles - that would require an Act of Parliament. All that would be removed even then would be their Dukedoms - they would both still remain Princes. Meghan would then become known as Princess Henry. They themselves would have to decided to stop using their titles.
  1. Andrew went to Church, he did not take part in the "offical" walkabout to meet the public. Much as I dislike the man and do not want to see him as an active Royal - I can't complain about someone attending a Church service.
Burgoo · 30/12/2022 12:24

@Abigail69

Strip them of their titles so Harry can claim to be victimised and punished for speaking his "truth"? That is playing right into the hands of Harry and Meghan who (imo) want to be seen as victims as it gives them more opportunities to wring money out of being ex-Royals.

They need to do as they always have. Keep quiet, don't complain, don't explain. They aren't at risk if they say nothing. Just be silent :)

x2boys · 30/12/2022 12:24

Newwardrobe · 30/12/2022 12:19

His only been king a short time, he'll still be learning the essential elements of the role (constitutional) so internal family politics is not going to be a priority

Charles has had literally decades to learn the job , if he hasn't got the rules under his belt by now then he needs to go on a performance review.

And be given six months to improve and then managed out😂😂

Burgoo · 30/12/2022 12:25

Also I suspect Charles doesn't want to turn the RF into any more of a reality TV/soap opera than Meghan/Harry have made it.

Getamoveon36 · 30/12/2022 12:25

Burgoo · 30/12/2022 12:24

@Abigail69

Strip them of their titles so Harry can claim to be victimised and punished for speaking his "truth"? That is playing right into the hands of Harry and Meghan who (imo) want to be seen as victims as it gives them more opportunities to wring money out of being ex-Royals.

They need to do as they always have. Keep quiet, don't complain, don't explain. They aren't at risk if they say nothing. Just be silent :)

100% this

luckylavender · 30/12/2022 12:26

Abigail69 · 30/12/2022 11:40

Charles is King.
He has the power/ability to remove the titles from Harry & Andrew.

If Charles is a modern King that "listens" to what people think as often mentioned in the media, why has he not removed their titles?

Another point, why was Andrew allowed during the Xmas walk about with other family members?

TBH, I could not stand Camilla but she has grown on me as has Charles. However, King Charles is going downhill fast if he does not act by removing Harry& Andrews's titles.

William/Kate and family, love them loads
Princess Ann and hubby (until recently I did not know what the bloke looked like) have grown on me.

Edward and their family have grown on me.

The majority of others, I have no time for.

AIBU in blaming Charles for not acting right now to remove titles?

If Charles did remove their titles, I'm sure the vast majority of the people in England would be happier.

With respect you seem to know very little. You can't spell Princess Anne's name correctly. You know nothing about her husband (they've been married for 30 years). Why bother posting? Also there's a Royal Family board.

BananaBlue · 30/12/2022 12:26

Ourlittleharmonica · 30/12/2022 12:22

I think the monarchy should be abolished and EVERYONE'S titles removed and that YABVVVVVU for bringing this topic in here yet AGAIN

I suspect this is why A&H&M won’t have titles removed.

It would set a precedent for the rest. Back in the height of Diana/Camilla weren’t folk screaming for Charles to be removed from succession?

As another has said, Parliament is ignoring enough of its in tray without this nonsense.

Anonymouseposter · 30/12/2022 12:29

I suspect you are being manipulated by the media OP. The people who have grown on you E.g. Camilla were vilified in the media but are now being covered positively. The King loves his son and will not want to slam the door on any prospect of reconciliation. Andrew, while horrible, doesn’t have a conviction and the deal is that he only attends private events. He has been made to leave Buckingham palace.

Lifeomars · 30/12/2022 12:31

I think that this country won't grow up until we dispense with the monarchy, the mere fact that there is going to be an extravagant coronation at a time of financial disaster for so many people speaks volumes about how those in power try to manage the agenda to distract people from the very real problems we face. The popular media is stuffed to the gills with anecdotes about them all, and it is done purposely to distract the population from the fact that this country is barely functioning, "oh look at Kate's earrings", "isn't little Louis a character!" " Harry and Meghan should be banned from the UK" on and on it goes and none of it matters, it is just a massive sideshow

Ivyonafence · 30/12/2022 12:32

Agree OP has been told what to think by the media.

I found the Netflix series dull but it was interesting to see how the RF and the media manipulate each other and the public.

Joshitai · 30/12/2022 12:33

I think that this country won't grow up until we dispense with the monarchy,

What? Like how the Russians have grown up?

TrishM80 · 30/12/2022 12:34

Get rid of the lot of them. An embarrassing soap opera. Fucking Eastenders with posh accents.

ZeViteVitchofCwismas · 30/12/2022 12:35

Yeah ' c' Mon Charlie...your turning old Abbi off you mate.

Strip em bear and take aways every fink if yous want to save old abbis likin' of ya.

x2boys · 30/12/2022 12:47

Op, I don't know how old you are ,but some of the Royal you admire have had their fair share of scandals
when Diana died and there was a mass,outpouring of public "greif" the Queen herself was heavily criticised for not initially making a public statement ,now behind the scenes in sure she was desperately trying to protect,the young traumatised,princes William and Harry ,but the public didn't see that
regarding Camilla ,after Diana died many of the public said they would never accept Camilla as Charles wife and one day Queen ,yet here we are .
Sophie Wessex had the whole,Fake sheik,scandal,and Prince Edward I believe tried to sell his own nephew Prince William out ,with his Drama company Arden whilst William was at university ,and let's not go there with " it's a Royal knockout" !

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