I Blame King Charles

[Abigail69]

Charles is King.
He has the power/ability to remove the titles from Harry & Andrew.

If Charles is a modern King that "listens" to what people think as often mentioned in the media, why has he not removed their titles?

Another point, why was Andrew allowed during the Xmas walk about with other family members?

TBH, I could not stand Camilla but she has grown on me as has Charles. However, King Charles is going downhill fast if he does not act by removing Harry& Andrews's titles.

William/Kate and family, love them loads
Princess Ann and hubby (until recently I did not know what the bloke looked like) have grown on me.

Edward and their family have grown on me.

The majority of others, I have no time for.

AIBU in blaming Charles for not acting right now to remove titles?

If Charles did remove their titles, I'm sure the vast majority of the people in England would be happier.

I agree with this.
Regardless of what Andrew did 30 years ago, he is still their brother and there is not point in pretending he doesn't exist.
He doesn't represent them officially anymore and his security and office have been removed.
Honestly I'd probably think less of them if they all turned their backs on him completely.

He's lost it in official capacity, like Harry did.
So basically he's lost it as he's no longer allowed to be referred to as HRH.

Or the Duke of York.

Can they have their titles revoked? I heard that if you’re a prince at birth then there is no removal? So if the Duke and Duchess title was revoked they would be known as Prince and Princess Henry……. That would be the same for Andrew I presume? I may have that wrong!

Or the Duke of York

Source? I certainly haven't heard he's not allowed to refer to himself as DoY

Apologies, I should have typed Only, not Or.

YANBU
Charles is not the reformer he wishes us to believe he is

Ffs give him chance. He hasn't even been crowned yet!!!

people/majority want Andrew and harry to lose their titles.

Majority don't care one way or the other.

Fairly large proportion want them all to lose their titles.

Sorry, do you seriously need it explaining to you that a family fall out is not on the same scale as knocking about with a convicted nonce?

Apparently an awful.lot of people knew what "St Jim" was up to but turned a blind eye on account of being a national treasure ,if you believe Charles can't have know ,why must Andrew "have known " about Epstein et al?

Because he was photographed with him after his initial conviction.

Wasent that when he specifically went to the US to break friends with him😂?

Thank you for your support.

Ask yourselves this. Why is Charles not removing their titles? You know the answer.

To be fair, he cares more about the environment and climate change than his embarrassment of a little brother. It’s too bad Andrew can’t be exiled to some remote chateau in France to live out his days in obscurity.

Because he can’t, it’s an act of Parliament? Perhaps OP you should be asking why Rishi Sunak isn’t putting a bill on the floor to remove their titles?

What evidence was there? There was no internet, so how would be aware of any rumours?

You may recall the rumours about Cliff Richard, and the BBC being tipped off - the poor guy was innocent all along. Therefore, I doubt if Charles knew anything hence getting to meet Jimmy just like thousands of others did.

I'm no fan of Charles re not removing the titles from the pair but to say he "knew" re "Jimmy" that is very unfair.

I couldn't give a hoot what happens with Harry. He seems cute to me.

Sort of agree with you on Andrew but even that isn't a major issue to be honest

Total BS with some respect. Charles has the authority and that is a fact.

Sorry, you’re wrong.

www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/dec/09/tory-mp-plans-legislation-strip-harry-meghan-royal-titles

No, that is not a fact. Titles (the Duke titles) can only be removed by an act of Parliament, not at the whim of the sovereign. This was confirmed in the Buckhurst Peerage Case (1876). Stripping the Dukes of Cumberland and Albany of their titles for fighting in the German army in World War One required the Titles Deprivation Act (1917).

The Prince titles the sovereign also cannot remove as they were born Princes of England. They would have to voluntarily relinquish them as Prince Philip relinquished his Prince of Greece and Denmark title prior to marrying Queen Elizabeth II.

Charles cannot remove any of Prince Andrew’s remaining titles. Queen Elizabeth already removed all the titles the sovereign could remove from Prince Andrew, which were the HRH address and all his military titles.

He cannot remove the Dukedoms. Peerage removal requires Parliament.

That’s why George V couldn’t do everything unilaterally and Parliament had to have the 1916 Titles Deprivation Act.

Thats why Rachel Maskell and Bob Seely have been trying to go down the private members bill route to have Andrew’s York title removed.

generally trying to take down the RF

Who would this actually affect other than the members of the royal family?

I cannot fathom how the royal family get support - if you only think of the cost of private education, are you really ok with taxpayers paying for their kids' education just because? having done nothing to earn it? Why shouldn't your kids get the same education? What makes them so special that they deserve that?

Politicians get torn to shreds on here but at least they have to stand in front of the electorate and convince people to vote for them.

taxpayers paying for their kids' education

We don’t pay for their kids education.

We’d definitely be paying for it if they were in state schools so it’s a pretty flimsy argument.