Men in women’s spaces

[BrightSaturn]

Just using this to rant really…

2 times in the past month I have encountered men in women only spaces.

1. I went to a feeding room to breastfeed my daughter in a shopping centre. I walked in and there were two young women in there changing their babies and one of their boyfriends just taking up one of the only chairs just sitting there, sitting using his phone. It’s a small room with 3 chairs in. I didn’t know what to do so I thought I’ll just sit down and get ready slowly and hopefully they’ll leave. I have fed in public but this was a small room so I felt vulnerable and like he shouldn’t be there and I didn’t want to lift my top up whilst he was sitting basically opposite me so I eventually asked if he could leave the room, they looked annoyed but thankfully he did go, after she looked at him and said “it’s up to you”…
2. I went into a changing room in a shop the other day with my mum, imagine a big room with seats in the middle and curtained dividers all round the outside. My mum was only trying on cardigans so really she just needed a mirror but in the middle on a seat was a boy about 17/18 years old. His girlfriend was trying on clothes. I couldn’t believe it! It wasn’t even doors on the changing rooms, just curtains. Why he thought this was acceptable I have no idea. Again I felt vulnerable and this time I didn’t have the confidence to ask him to leave. If my mum had been actually changing I would have probably found a shop assistant but still it’s not fair that we have to ask them to leave, he should not have been there in the first place!

aibu to think women’s spaces are being invaded more and more? How can we stop this from happening?

You did.

You now also think all those on FWR are either thin-skinned or are rape survivors. Because, after all, according to you, there is no reason for women to have dignity and human rights outside of that. Your posts are very telling about what sort of horrible person you are.

Desperate. Is this meant to shock and upset others? Your efforts are nothing other than laughable.

Kiwi Farms is thattaway ----->

No one mentioned FWR apart from this particular poster.

Natch. They've outed themselves as precisely the type of poster who trolls that board on a regular basis, and also makes a beeline for rape victims (you see them come out on every thread on that topic without fail). It was clear from the way they seized upon the mention of rape/sexual assault on this thread with such vigour.

So transparent. Poor souls must be screenshotting like billy-o to feed back to the red pill sites ...

You really are a typical hateful male. These places were ORIGINALLY signposted as Mothers Rooms. That they took down the signs, does.....not......erase.....the......fact.......that......they........ORIGINALLY.....were.

Handbags are portable and easy to carry. That is why they are called handbags. Or, if like me, you have you purse and phone in a jacket pocket, that is easy to carry too. You really don't need to transport your partner into the changing space.

And again, I say that women wanting our basic human rights are not 'thin skinned'. You men are the ones who are thin-skinned if women having basic human rights upsets you so much. You're the one who is delusional, chauvinistic and exudes toxic masculinity.

You're so right. They are showing their toxic masculinity.

Most shopping centres weren't standing 30 years ago? Wow, you really are either trolling or completely and utterly unhinged to say such nonsense.

Any one who thinks women don't deserve basic human rights is.... not a woman. That's clear. NO woman would call women who want womens human rights and safe spaces 'thin-skinned'. No woman on earth. You out yourself.

Why would he need to go somewhere private to formula feed? Presumably he wouldn't need to whack his top up to make a bottle

@IAmWomanHearMeRoar1 but you are missing the fact in all this that it was not a mothers room thus it doesn't matter if it was once called that.
Another example could be that less than 30 years ago yorkie bars were 'not for girls' doesn't mean just because it once was marketed as 'not for girls' that it remains that way.
Or women weren't allowed to vote. Just because it was once that way doesn't mean that it hasn't changed!!

Times move on and they are not (mostly from what I have seen) called womens rooms but family rooms which combine changing, feeding, parent toilets etc. so ignore OPs example for a moment, if a dad was out with his baby and they suddenly needed changing what do you suggest they do if they are not allowed into a FAMILY room where the changing facilities are for babies just in case someone is feeding?

FWIW most of these places have a curtained area or a little side room to bf in if desired and my local ones also contain a bottle warmer as well so fully inclusive for all feeding styles.

Something 30 years ago has been updated, the same way everything does

Able? Or should?

When that room was originally designated for women only, and changed without any consultation with women, then yes it IS an erosion of womens rights.

You appear to have a bee in your bonnet about FWR. Did you realize you were posting on 'AIBU', and no one else other than you is actually mentioning that area of the site?

You're giving away more about yourself than you likely realize; including what your real bug-bear truly is.

Do try clocking the actual name of the board you're posting on.

Being for womens basic human rights means I'm thin-skinned.

I would say you are subhuman with no humanity, no soul and no decency, with toxic masculinity displaying narcissistic and control traits and need serious help. No one on FWR is 'thin skinned'. They are normal women who support womens human rights, even when men like you don't.

So....breastfeeders only? Ok then. It's a family room, for baby feeding and changing and sometimes that means men changing babies and attending to kids. It also means women bottle-feeding. By your comment above, they shouldn't have been there either. I'm not enthused by men in "women only spaces" but a family space is not exclusively for women only. Some people are hellbent on making life arduous for themselves.