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Rishi disappearing act

176 replies

Ilovemycatalot · 24/12/2022 09:22

As he is our pm I thought we would have heard more from him considering all the strikes and current mess of the country. I’ve heard one statement from him saying he feels bad for the disruption over Xmas and that’s it. AIBU to think he should be trying to sort this mess out or is he quietly working away in the background?

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Iam4eels · 24/12/2022 11:20

EmmaAgain22 · 24/12/2022 11:14

Yes
I was hoping he'd be sensible and start that conversation but no.

There is definite middle ground to be found.

My personal opinion is that the government could make a more reasonable pay offer that still short of the gull amount being asked for but they could couple this with improvements to conditions and increases in staffing levels and it would probably be accepted. Immigration should be streamlined and fast tracked for healthcare staff (including non-clinical roles), this should include asylum seekers too, to help increase staffing levels. It can be paid for by the government budgeting properly for the NHS - they can afford it, they just don't want to.

rwalker · 24/12/2022 11:21

I’m happy with the silence no matter what they put forward it’s welcomed with negativity and slagging off sick to death of it

as for strikes nobody wants the practical solutions
RM loosing millions a day no idea how they could afford big rises
nhs give them the rise but no one wants to pay the extra into the public purse to finance it

helford · 24/12/2022 11:23

Dotjones · 24/12/2022 10:17

I thought his position was quite clear, the strikers' demands are unaffordable. There's no point discussing it further with them. Better he concentrate on ending damaging strikes in the medium to long term by implementing legislation than focus on the current ones that he can't solve in the short term.

Ideally strikes should only be legal if the unions organising them can guarantee that service levels won't be affected, and they are held accountable (including serious prison time for organisers and participants) if service suffers.

Actually, i support this BUT only if Govt ministers can be held to account and given very long jail sentences for failures in education, transport and health.

200 a week die needlessly with delays in getting treatment, all this before the strikes, so thats on ministers, then there is all the maternity deaths.
Do you support Hunt and Cameron getting 15year sentences for those failures?

No thought not.

oreste · 24/12/2022 11:25

He is the consummate banker-turned-career politician. He has a nice achievement on his CV as Britain's first Asian PM. The problems we face are arguably beyond his capability to solve so he won't even pretend to be interested in solving them.

ItsACrater · 24/12/2022 11:27

Reverse brexit. But doubt the EU will take us back. We’re in a mess for generations. I’ll be encouraging my kids to look to live in another country. Probably Canada

oreste · 24/12/2022 11:28

There isn't really an excuse for not entering into negotiations even though they would be futile. The logician in him can probably justify it upon the basis that he is focusing on things he feels he can change. However, the optics and impact on public morale is damaging.

blameless · 24/12/2022 11:30

Treasury wonks like Sunak and Barclay have no connection to the public whatsoever.

Without strikes, operations get cancelled, waiting lists grow, mail delivery is haphazard and public transport is often unreliable.

Strikes are not as unpopular with the public as the Cabinet believe. Blaming the strikers is not working, despite the government ordering MSM condemnation.

We have both the weakest government and the weakest opposition in living memory.

knackeredmu · 24/12/2022 11:31

Ilovemycatalot · 24/12/2022 10:11

And not because Boris was more in the public eye but he did seem more empathetic to things again I know most would disagree with me.

That was his only skill
Talking the talk
Saying the right things and then doing the opposite

oreste · 24/12/2022 11:38

blameless · 24/12/2022 11:30

Treasury wonks like Sunak and Barclay have no connection to the public whatsoever.

Without strikes, operations get cancelled, waiting lists grow, mail delivery is haphazard and public transport is often unreliable.

Strikes are not as unpopular with the public as the Cabinet believe. Blaming the strikers is not working, despite the government ordering MSM condemnation.

We have both the weakest government and the weakest opposition in living memory.

I agree. Kier is tired, like somebody who waits and waits for a train and then gives up but is stuck staring at the departures board. There is nobody in the shadow cabinet who wouldn't make a hash of it. Wes may inject more enthusiasm but thin pickings all round for leadership.

Forfrigz · 24/12/2022 11:42

If by working quietly you mean squirrelling away the finances of the country for himself and his mates before they inevitably lose the next election you're bang on OP

Alexandra2001 · 24/12/2022 11:43

blameless · 24/12/2022 11:30

Treasury wonks like Sunak and Barclay have no connection to the public whatsoever.

Without strikes, operations get cancelled, waiting lists grow, mail delivery is haphazard and public transport is often unreliable.

Strikes are not as unpopular with the public as the Cabinet believe. Blaming the strikers is not working, despite the government ordering MSM condemnation.

We have both the weakest government and the weakest opposition in living memory.

Totally disagree... if Labour.. Starmer weak then explain why they are 20pts ahead in the polls?

He is coming into his own.. though i do not like Streeting.. too Tory for me.

But this is a thread about Sunak... and is choosing strikes over our health.. he isn't even doing a xmas message.. bit of a coward me thinks.

Dayil · 24/12/2022 11:47

KonTikki · 24/12/2022 09:40

Less is More.
Seeing more of our PM's doesn't make me feel any better ...
aka Depressing May, the Blond Baffoon, or Catastrophic Truss.

This and he’s giving the royals chance to shine. The media dictate what we need to see and who we need to hound.

daisychain01 · 24/12/2022 11:50

Ilovemycatalot · 24/12/2022 09:54

What do I want him to do? Give some reassurance that he’s sorting out this mess. And I’m not bringing this up because of some stupid front page news article I am genuinely concerned at the state of this country and that everyone and his wife appears to be going on strike with no resolution in sight.

What reassurances can he give other than what will be seen as weasly words and platitudes?

the country is in a poor state, he isn't an unintelligent person so he will be more likely to say something when he has something meaningful to say. Until then he is probably doing the right thing by not opening his mouth and getting shot down in flames like Johnson did.

Clavinova · 24/12/2022 11:55

WatchoRulo
Maybe he's f... off on holiday to one of his 12 houses again

Classic example of 'Chinese whispers' - he is reported to have 4 houses - one of them set on a 12-acre plot of land.

blackpearwhitelilies · 24/12/2022 11:56

Boris Johnson did not get Brexit done. It isn’t done. He signed a terrible deal, so terrible that he wouldn’t allow Parliament to scrutinise it and sacked those who said that was unacceptable. He then spent months whining about the deal and the fact that the EU wanted to abide by it.
The strikes are fuelled by his malign legacy. He promised to sort out social care. That went the way of all of his promises.
As for Rishi getting on with hard work and being judged by his results, well, OK, let’s hope. There’s precious little evidence of any sound results on the horizon.

Blossomtoes · 24/12/2022 12:00

oreste · 24/12/2022 11:28

There isn't really an excuse for not entering into negotiations even though they would be futile. The logician in him can probably justify it upon the basis that he is focusing on things he feels he can change. However, the optics and impact on public morale is damaging.

This. Assuming negotiation would be futile is so defeatist. Thing about this is that it’s so long since this country saw industrial action none of the current politicians understand how it works. Workers ask for more than they expect to get, the government offers much less and they meet somewhere in the middle. It’s not rocket science.

Cornettoninja · 24/12/2022 12:00

Viviennemary · 24/12/2022 11:19

He knows the Tories are finished. Everything is in a big mess and he cant do anything so he is doing nothing.

So he’s essentially on strike then? Interesting….

EggyBread · 24/12/2022 12:08

Perhaps he’s on strike….

Alexandra2001 · 24/12/2022 12:08

Clavinova · 24/12/2022 11:55

WatchoRulo
Maybe he's f... off on holiday to one of his 12 houses again

Classic example of 'Chinese whispers' - he is reported to have 4 houses - one of them set on a 12-acre plot of land.

Only 4 and even one of those is set in just 12 acres..... #improverished.

But its not just 4 houses is it? sprawling estate house, property in Kensington and California too..... and on his UK properties.. tax payers subsidise his heating and energy costs too.

Whatever political party you belong too, this amount of wealth will always mean you re out of touch and have no idea how normal people live.

torquewench · 24/12/2022 12:13

He's turned up at a homeless shelter, asked someone if he works "in business" 🤦🏼‍♀️

JocelynBurnell · 24/12/2022 12:15

LikeTearsInRain · 24/12/2022 10:31

Boris would have got this solved months ago

Yeah,. right. Boris 'solved' all of the Britain's problem?

I think you are confusing 'solve' and 'cause'

Thebestwaytoscareatory · 24/12/2022 12:16

rwalker · 24/12/2022 11:21

I’m happy with the silence no matter what they put forward it’s welcomed with negativity and slagging off sick to death of it

as for strikes nobody wants the practical solutions
RM loosing millions a day no idea how they could afford big rises
nhs give them the rise but no one wants to pay the extra into the public purse to finance it

First the RM strikes aren't just about pay but even if they wete the RM made over £750m profit last year, have made hundreds of millions of pounds profit every year, and have a £1.7b fund to "smash the union". They could afford "big pay rises" if they wanted to, they just prefer to hand the profit over to shareholders.

As for the NHS, again this isn't just about pay, but the government can always find more money to fund the things they find important. It just so happens that the Tories don't think the NHS is important.

TheNoonBell · 24/12/2022 12:18

Uncle Klaus has told him to rest up as he has a lot for Rishi to do in the new year.

2023 is going to see a lot of changes for those in the West.

IsItaCowIsItaPlane · 24/12/2022 12:22

Weirdly, I was thinking the same thing this morning! Where is "our" PM?

He's like the Emperor's new clothes...,nothing there.

Cocolatte24 · 24/12/2022 12:22

I’d prefer he had his head down working rather than posturing and talking about the problem constantly.