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AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

To not want a stranger at Christmas?

816 replies

Oneeyedreindeer · 18/12/2022 22:15

My mother and brother were due to come to my house for Christmas. I am married with 3 DC, one of who is a young baby. Last week he randomly said he has a friend from abroad coming to stay for a month and if I don’t invite him he will be alone on Christmas Day.

i explained I don’t want a stranger there and it changes the dynamics with small children/breastfeeding etc. he is insisting I could meet the friend beforehand. He is like a dog with a bone and won’t drop it and keeps bringing it up/poor friend will he all alone etc etc. I’ve been clear that if he can’t come as he needs to be with his friend that’s fine and now I feel very mean indeed. But AIBU? I just think it would be very awkward indeed and I do also think there’s an element of my brother wanting to park up for some free/food drink with his friend - he suggested bringing his games consoles “for DC to play” although DC are 4 and under.

OP posts:
Crikeyalmighty · 18/12/2022 22:54

@SnowStupid - a really nice gesture- I would do the same.

LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 18/12/2022 22:54

GADDay · 18/12/2022 22:49

OP - do what makes you feel comfortable. Clearly there is no loves list with to your Dvro and you will probably be doing him a favour by shafting him - he can game with his mate to his heart's content, in peace.

Or you could just set a place at the table and be normal.

Choices???

Shafting him because she expects him to cook for his own mate? OK.

Let’s face it - OP’s DB wants a free cooked meal whisky also gaming all day with his pal. Let’s stop pretending he can’t host his friend himself

Daffodilis · 18/12/2022 22:54

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Oneeyedreindeer · 18/12/2022 22:54

LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 18/12/2022 22:49

Oh come on - that’s VERY different from someone being in their actual home who we don’t know anything about.

Im not dead keen on making my kids feel uncomfortable and unable to relax in their own home for the sake of being Mrs BeLind Hospitable though.

This is the thing I hadn’t really thought about I do think my children probably would feel a bit uncomfortable/take a while to warm up to a stranger so yes that would change things wouldn’t it

this thread is making me feel I’m definitely NBU saying no

OP posts:
Oneeyedreindeer · 18/12/2022 22:55

SnowStupid · 18/12/2022 22:53

So say that. Don't make excuses about it not being safe for your DC.

I didn’t say it’s not safe?

OP posts:
Wiennetta · 18/12/2022 22:55

Honestly I wouldn’t have a problem with a +1. I don’t think it’s that different if it’s a friend or a new partner. The whole ‘strange man near the kids’ thing is a bit OTT, presumably he’s not going to be left alone with the kids? It’s just a day. There’s going to be plenty of adults around. I’d see it as an extra person to have a chat with/it would be fun.

Flapjackquack · 18/12/2022 22:55

Ponoka7 · 18/12/2022 22:51

Children under 10 don't tend to leave the house alone. So you are ok with scrapping DBS etc?
The Brother has invited his friend to stay, but doesn't want to do Christmas dinner, so expects the OP to do it instead. I'd put money on that the friend has already been promised that they'll be playing games all day, while being hosted.
When the invite to the friend was issued to stay, what did the brother plan for their Christmas day? Nothing.
The friend could be very intolerant of young children and completely ruin the day.

A DBS to have a guest round at Christmas? I’ve heard it all now. Why would this person be left alone with the children?! I also love the idea of a random friend’s intolerance to children ruining the day. OP has no obligation to host him but the mental leaps you’ve taken are nuts.

LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 18/12/2022 22:55

SnowStupid · 18/12/2022 22:49

He's her brother's good friend. Would her sister's new boyfriend not be welcome either? When do people earn the right to be included?

I mean say no if you want to and of course DB could host him himself, but some of the excuses are just that.

Sister new boyfriend is a (potential) member of the family who will be seen again. This is just a random bloke on his holidays who OP will never clap eyes on again hankering for a free meal and a play on the PlayStation by the sounds of it

EscapeRoomToTheSun · 18/12/2022 22:55

Flapjackquack · 18/12/2022 22:51

Growing up we always had a randomer or two at the Christmas Dinner table, normally someone who came to my parents church looking for help. So I wouldn’t think twice about letting a friend of a sibling come, but it sounds like your brother’s attitude is the bigger issue so I can understand why that would have got your back up.

Some posters on here have some mad ideas about strangers though. No one is suggesting OP leave the guy alone with her kids!

Yes but she will have to get her tits out while cooking a roast. That is frankly enough for anyone without a complete strangers eyeful to consider.

GADDay · 18/12/2022 22:55

LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 18/12/2022 22:49

Oh come on - that’s VERY different from someone being in their actual home who we don’t know anything about.

Im not dead keen on making my kids feel uncomfortable and unable to relax in their own home for the sake of being Mrs BeLind Hospitable though.

Ah good one, I suspected you were being facetious. It's really silly isn't it?

LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 18/12/2022 22:56

I might start a thread that says

“Im a man on holiday alone for a month and have nowhere to go for Christmas. The bloke I’m staying with has a sister with 3 kids, never met any of them, AIBU in thinking she’s a pathetic baby and SELFISH if she doesn’t cook for me”

And see how it goes.

Choccolatte · 18/12/2022 22:56

We've always had randomers at Xmas couldn't imagine knowing someone was in alone and leaving them alone. However we are all different and if you are not happy then say no as nothing worse than being a bad host for you or the guests.

GADDay · 18/12/2022 22:57

Another bonkers thread that will be click bait by the morn.

Happy times.

LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 18/12/2022 22:57

Daffodilis · 18/12/2022 22:50

Quick Google for all you lovely people wanting to open your home to strangers this Christmas in the spirit of loveliness, get in contact with Scope or Help the aged and they will hook you up.

Literally no one on this thread is gonna do that though. They want to come on, stick the boot in and call OP names, then go off and have their lovely stranger free Christmas

Oneeyedreindeer · 18/12/2022 22:57

GADDay · 18/12/2022 22:57

Another bonkers thread that will be click bait by the morn.

Happy times.

I hope not - my mother reads the DM!

OP posts:
Choccolatte · 18/12/2022 22:58

In fact in your circumstances I would get my brother to cook.

LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 18/12/2022 22:58

HelsyQ · 18/12/2022 22:50

Because it’s petty asf.

It’s petty to suggest that a man who is hosting a friend over Christmas hosts that friend on Christmas Day?

Really?

SnowStupid · 18/12/2022 22:58

LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 18/12/2022 22:56

I might start a thread that says

“Im a man on holiday alone for a month and have nowhere to go for Christmas. The bloke I’m staying with has a sister with 3 kids, never met any of them, AIBU in thinking she’s a pathetic baby and SELFISH if she doesn’t cook for me”

And see how it goes.

The friend hasn't invited himself though. DB wants to invite him to his family Christmas.

SomethingNastyInTheBallPool · 18/12/2022 22:58

I really can’t see what the big deal is here. Presumably OP’s brother wants to spend Christmas with his family and his friend. It’s only one day and you might actually have fun.
As for the breastfeeding, just crack on.

DuplicateUserName · 18/12/2022 22:58

Tothemoonandbackx · 18/12/2022 22:36

@DuplicateUserName don't find it difficult in the slightest 😂😂 and congratulations, it's a good thing you used your senses and didn't lock them in a room with a complete stranger, because that would be very bad indeed. But you do seem slightly confused in why some people would find it uncomfortable to let a complete stranger who they know zero about into their homes with young children. Does that clear it up a little for you???

Does that clear it up a little for you???

No, I tell you what, it confuses me even more. I mean the fact you think I'm confused in why some people would find it uncomfortable to let a complete stranger who they know zero about into their homes with young children?

I'll repeat my reply to the OP here for you and you can have another go at reading it if you think it might help you.

Here goes...

I would have no problem with this at all.
But you do and it's your house so that's all that matters.

Have you opened the Christmas sherry a little early @Tothemoonandbackx ?

Daffodilis · 18/12/2022 22:58

Oneeyedreindeer · 18/12/2022 22:55

I didn’t say it’s not safe?

I'd ignore the idiots if I was you, bet most of them would not do what they are telling you to do. Gobs on legs.

ShoveAHollySprigUpYourBum · 18/12/2022 22:58

Wouldn't be a problem for me to add an extra person in. Have done it before in fact with my SIL's brother. In this case I'd assume they were okay as they were a friend of my brother's and any of my brother's friends that I've met have been good company. So I'd assume they' turn up and be a nice and normal person willing to join in with the festivities.

SomethingNastyInTheBallPool · 18/12/2022 23:00

ShoveAHollySprigUpYourBum · 18/12/2022 22:58

Wouldn't be a problem for me to add an extra person in. Have done it before in fact with my SIL's brother. In this case I'd assume they were okay as they were a friend of my brother's and any of my brother's friends that I've met have been good company. So I'd assume they' turn up and be a nice and normal person willing to join in with the festivities.

That’s exactly how I would feel. Unless I didn’t like my brother, in which case he wouldn’t be coming for Christmas anyway.

whatkatydid2013 · 18/12/2022 23:00

@Oneeyedreindeer yanbu. Some people love hosting and feel comfortable having people they don’t know well join in, some people don’t mind hosting and would happily socialise in a restaurant/bar or similar with friends of friends/family but don’t really want them in their homes & some people are deeply distrustful of strangers to the point the idea of inviting someone into your home you don’t know is alien to them. None of these people we stupid, crazy or wrong (some of all categories on this thread are pretty rude though). It’s your Christmas Day too and you shouldn’t feel obliged to have someone there that will make you feel uncomfortable or stressed out. Your brother could always call by for half an hour and say hi if local or come a different day in the holidays to have time with the family and he’s plenty of time to sort out other arrangements for him and his friend. In your shoes I’d invite the friend but I wouldn’t feel uncomfortable and I’d enjoy spending time with someone travelling and meeting my brothers friend. I guess what I’m saying is those saying of course you should would probably also enjoy doing it so of course then it’s easy to say that you should. We are all different and it doesn’t make you a nicer person to just happen to like hosting lots of people or to enjoy hearing all the stories about your siblings drunken antics at uni. Hope you have a lovely Christmas

LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 18/12/2022 23:00

SnowStupid · 18/12/2022 22:51

Are you sure your children will be uncomfortable? The strangers at my childhood Christmases were invariably the best fun for us kids. They were, as a rule, glad to be there and made a lot of effort.

Why would little children be uncomfortable with their uncle's friend, unless that's what you teach them?

If it turns out the strange man we invited is a weirdo, or a racist (which happened at a family-friendly dinner party of our friends once, my children are mixed race so that was fun) or unkind or intolerant of children then yea they would be uncomfortable. I just wouldn’t take the risk.