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AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

To not want a stranger at Christmas?

816 replies

Oneeyedreindeer · 18/12/2022 22:15

My mother and brother were due to come to my house for Christmas. I am married with 3 DC, one of who is a young baby. Last week he randomly said he has a friend from abroad coming to stay for a month and if I don’t invite him he will be alone on Christmas Day.

i explained I don’t want a stranger there and it changes the dynamics with small children/breastfeeding etc. he is insisting I could meet the friend beforehand. He is like a dog with a bone and won’t drop it and keeps bringing it up/poor friend will he all alone etc etc. I’ve been clear that if he can’t come as he needs to be with his friend that’s fine and now I feel very mean indeed. But AIBU? I just think it would be very awkward indeed and I do also think there’s an element of my brother wanting to park up for some free/food drink with his friend - he suggested bringing his games consoles “for DC to play” although DC are 4 and under.

OP posts:
LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 22/12/2022 15:03

Can someone post a link please?

KettrickenSmiled · 22/12/2022 15:17

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This message has been withdrawn at the poster's request

KettrickenSmiled · 22/12/2022 15:22

LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 22/12/2022 15:03

Can someone post a link please?

I feel dirty & ashamed, but you're worth it, Bonnet
www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-11554545/I-wont-invite-brothers-lonely-friend-Christmas-selfish.html

MarieIVanArkleStinks · 22/12/2022 15:27

Kinell. It's garnered 1500 comments!

I won't read any, I rather value my crockery collection ...

LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 22/12/2022 15:30

Oh sweet sweet success, fame at last!!!

To not want a stranger at Christmas?
KatherineJaneway · 22/12/2022 15:34

LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 22/12/2022 15:30

Oh sweet sweet success, fame at last!!!

I'm jealous. I never get quoted.

FictionalCharacter · 22/12/2022 15:44

Marynomum · 22/12/2022 09:14

I think it's a time of good will and compassion, be kind and help a lonely soul. I live alone have no family nearby. My dear friend takes me in every Christmas day, what would I do without her. A friend is a stranger you have not met yet. Lots of love this Christmas xxxxxxxxxxxx

OP’s brother could Be Kind and host his friend on Christmas Day, but he wants his sister to Be Kind and host them both instead. Even though OP and her family have never met the friend. You could direct your BeKind suggestions towards people like the brother instead. He’s not being very kind to his sister is he? He’s refused flat out to have her round to his place on Boxing Day. Where’s his goodwill and compassion?

PatriciaR · 22/12/2022 17:39

Christmas is a time show your love to the world and to share that love with others. (Remember Scrooge!) I do hope that by now you have changed your mind and invited your brother's friend. If you are embarrassed to nurse your baby in front of a stranger, you could either cover yourself with a nursing wrap or move to somewhere more comfortable for you. My parents would often invite strangers into our home and sometimes I would come home from school to find a gypsy woman being served tea in my mother's best china cups. I am a grandmother now and try to continue the warmth they showed to strangers. Have a wonderful Christmas and decide with your heart - not your head.🎄

Emotionalsupportviper · 22/12/2022 18:15

KettrickenSmiled · 22/12/2022 15:22

I feel soiled just looking at the link you have posted Kettricken

My eyeballs will never be clean again . . . EVEN IF I BLEACH THEM! 👀

Emotionalsupportviper · 22/12/2022 18:17

If you are embarrassed to nurse your baby in front of a stranger, you could either cover yourself with a nursing wrap or move to somewhere more comfortable for you.

Bugger that for a game of soldiers!

LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 22/12/2022 18:29

You can tell the Daily Mail readers have signed up today

FictionalCharacter · 22/12/2022 20:03

PatriciaR · 22/12/2022 17:39

Christmas is a time show your love to the world and to share that love with others. (Remember Scrooge!) I do hope that by now you have changed your mind and invited your brother's friend. If you are embarrassed to nurse your baby in front of a stranger, you could either cover yourself with a nursing wrap or move to somewhere more comfortable for you. My parents would often invite strangers into our home and sometimes I would come home from school to find a gypsy woman being served tea in my mother's best china cups. I am a grandmother now and try to continue the warmth they showed to strangers. Have a wonderful Christmas and decide with your heart - not your head.🎄

Fine for your mother to invite strangers into her own home, she wanted to. OP’s brother doesn’t have the right to invite someone to his sister’s home. He’s the inhospitable one here, he wants his sister to do the work and flatly refuses to I have her over on Boxing Day.

Oneeyedreindeer · 22/12/2022 20:06

I am honestly unable to read the DM comments because DH has been gleefully reading some to me and I’m so wound up that everyone thinks I’m mean as there’s none of the context about my brother being a bit of a ne’erdowell with pot smoking friends and general poor taste in buddies etc

your comments are all hilarious though - @LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet im glad you made the cut after all your contributions.

@KettrickenSmiled i can’t really respond to that fully due to the likelihood she might be arsed to come and read but actually she’s taken it in v good spirits and is unlikely to mention I think 😆

OP posts:
Oneeyedreindeer · 22/12/2022 20:08

PatriciaR · 22/12/2022 17:39

Christmas is a time show your love to the world and to share that love with others. (Remember Scrooge!) I do hope that by now you have changed your mind and invited your brother's friend. If you are embarrassed to nurse your baby in front of a stranger, you could either cover yourself with a nursing wrap or move to somewhere more comfortable for you. My parents would often invite strangers into our home and sometimes I would come home from school to find a gypsy woman being served tea in my mother's best china cups. I am a grandmother now and try to continue the warmth they showed to strangers. Have a wonderful Christmas and decide with your heart - not your head.🎄

Is this a joke?

if I feel uncomfortable breastfeeding in my own home it means there is someone there who should probably leave 😆

OP posts:
Oneeyedreindeer · 22/12/2022 20:09

LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 22/12/2022 18:29

You can tell the Daily Mail readers have signed up today

is the top DM
comment still everyone thinking my brother is gay and the friend is his secret lover?

OP posts:
Stickmansmum · 22/12/2022 20:12

Tothemoonandbackx · 18/12/2022 22:22

So some of you on here are completely fine with inviting a complete stranger over into your home with young children when you know zero about them.....yeah, of course you are 🤨🤨🤨🤨

Honestly I can’t imagine being so uptight. It’s not a stranger, it’s her brothers friend and houseguest.

KettrickenSmiled · 22/12/2022 22:44

@Oneeyedreindeer have reported that post, hope it's zapped soon.
So glad your mother's seeing the funny side!

LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 22/12/2022 22:59

Stickmansmum · 22/12/2022 20:12

Honestly I can’t imagine being so uptight. It’s not a stranger, it’s her brothers friend and houseguest.

So you think her brother would be hosting his friend then right?

OP - the big question: is the friend coming over after all??

LuckySantangelo35 · 22/12/2022 23:11

PatriciaR · 22/12/2022 17:39

Christmas is a time show your love to the world and to share that love with others. (Remember Scrooge!) I do hope that by now you have changed your mind and invited your brother's friend. If you are embarrassed to nurse your baby in front of a stranger, you could either cover yourself with a nursing wrap or move to somewhere more comfortable for you. My parents would often invite strangers into our home and sometimes I would come home from school to find a gypsy woman being served tea in my mother's best china cups. I am a grandmother now and try to continue the warmth they showed to strangers. Have a wonderful Christmas and decide with your heart - not your head.🎄

@PatriciaR

Hahahahaha

yeah… no

LuckySantangelo35 · 22/12/2022 23:32

Boomboom22 · 19/12/2022 17:03

But he wants to bring his games console, is 35, refuses to ever host his sister. How anyone can say he's the reasonable family orientated one I don't know.

This sums it up really well

the brother needs to grow up

Oneeyedreindeer · 23/12/2022 08:55

LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 22/12/2022 22:59

So you think her brother would be hosting his friend then right?

OP - the big question: is the friend coming over after all??

there has been a vague agreement that they will come on boxing day for a brief lunch of leftovers.

BUT

since I haven’t seen DB and the vague agreement was via text

  1. unsure if this still means he is going to pop without his friend in the morning for breakfast
  2. unclear if games consoles coming

it will all become clear and much easier to put my foot down in person on the day than send draconian messages let’s see how it pans out.

obviously I will keep people posted either way

OP posts:
LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 23/12/2022 08:56

obviously I will keep people posted either way

Good! I am way too invested in this now 🤣 personally I think you need to live stream the whole thing for MN OP 😂

Emotionalsupportviper · 23/12/2022 09:42

I am also glad that you will update us. Thank you, you wonderful OP.

I have a very sad life because I am a miserable ole trout and hate leaving the house and live vicariously through other people.

I NEED to know what happens.

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 23/12/2022 20:24

My parents would often invite strangers into our home and sometimes I would come home from school to find a gypsy woman being served tea in my mother's best china cups

Of course you did, dear. Of course you did.

Moonatics · 24/12/2022 08:39

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 23/12/2022 20:24

My parents would often invite strangers into our home and sometimes I would come home from school to find a gypsy woman being served tea in my mother's best china cups

Of course you did, dear. Of course you did.

This screams man writing it. Like he thinks his mother had time and just allowed any old gypsy women in. Let alone getting the "best china"

I call bullshit. And I do wish the men who have invaded mumsnet for the cause but have spread from fwr would fuck off.