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AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

To not want a stranger at Christmas?

816 replies

Oneeyedreindeer · 18/12/2022 22:15

My mother and brother were due to come to my house for Christmas. I am married with 3 DC, one of who is a young baby. Last week he randomly said he has a friend from abroad coming to stay for a month and if I don’t invite him he will be alone on Christmas Day.

i explained I don’t want a stranger there and it changes the dynamics with small children/breastfeeding etc. he is insisting I could meet the friend beforehand. He is like a dog with a bone and won’t drop it and keeps bringing it up/poor friend will he all alone etc etc. I’ve been clear that if he can’t come as he needs to be with his friend that’s fine and now I feel very mean indeed. But AIBU? I just think it would be very awkward indeed and I do also think there’s an element of my brother wanting to park up for some free/food drink with his friend - he suggested bringing his games consoles “for DC to play” although DC are 4 and under.

OP posts:
TolkiensFallow · 19/12/2022 06:53

@KettrickenSmiled 😂😂😂😂

ChristmasSparkleTastic · 19/12/2022 06:53

SnowStupid · 18/12/2022 22:34

I can't imagine saying no to that. My childhood Christmases were full of strangers. My grandad would invite anyone and everyone if he heard they would be alone. The more the merrier and those gatherings really were merry.

DS is at Uni and has a Syrian friend who is a refugee and can't go home for Christmas. I've invited him.

YOU'VE invited him. That's different @SnowStupid

OP you are not being unreasonable at all. Ignore everyone saying otherwise.

Daffodilis · 19/12/2022 06:54

Orangepolentacake · 19/12/2022 00:31

U ok hun

I'm fine thank you, apart from work telling me to leave my nice comfy bed.

Porridgeislife · 19/12/2022 06:54

PainfulAnkles · 19/12/2022 06:41

And what about the mum who’s trying to sit in the lounge feeding her newborn baby? Does she now have to make polite chitchat with a total stranger adult man while he stares at her leaky boobs?

Why would anyone start breasfeeding with others in the room anyway?
Surrly she’d go to bedroom/bathroom/ other room for that antway!!

Feed a baby in the bathroom in your own home? Where exactly, sitting on the toilet?

Why is a woman with a small baby’s comfort IN HER OWN HOME being deprioritised in favour of some bloke who has decided to go on a solo holiday during a scheduled and well published annual cultural holiday?

Stravaig · 19/12/2022 06:59

So your brother plans to take over your living room, set up his console(s), and sit gaming with his friend all day while you serve them Christmas food and drink at regular intervals? As well as juggling your own 3 children, including breastfeeding baby? All while your mother smiles indulgently at her darling precious boy? Fuck, no.

Inviting a stranger of your choice to join you because you want to is one thing, but this would be pandering to a cocklodger in the making. Well done for standing your ground, OP. Your brother should be laying on Christmas at his home for his guest - and all of you.

Some of these responses! Why do so many women have such low expectations of men?

KettrickenSmiled · 19/12/2022 06:59

Who's to look after the older kids when mum excuses herself about 10 times a day to hide in the bedroom? Her brother and the stranger? Ludicrous.

No. Her brother & her husband.
You know - these random guys who are the DC's uncle & dad.

This isn't a response about breastfeeding territory btw.
It's a response about your ludicrous belief that men can't be expected to look after children.

kingtamponthefurred · 19/12/2022 07:07

Grown men don't die or self destruct if they have to spend a day on their own and maybe cook their own lunch/

Oneeyedreindeer · 19/12/2022 07:09

Cailin66 · 19/12/2022 06:25

Who lays the table? And who cleans up?

Nobody lays the table due to the ages of the children but DH clears up

OP posts:
Oneeyedreindeer · 19/12/2022 07:11

Porridgeislife · 19/12/2022 06:54

Feed a baby in the bathroom in your own home? Where exactly, sitting on the toilet?

Why is a woman with a small baby’s comfort IN HER OWN HOME being deprioritised in favour of some bloke who has decided to go on a solo holiday during a scheduled and well published annual cultural holiday?

On what planet would I excuse myself to feed my baby in my house?! 😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆

if i felt the need to do that in front of my mother and my brother I wouldn’t be having them over either - fuck that.

OP posts:
FoamingCup · 19/12/2022 07:13

OP, you don't owe your brother any excuse or explanation, also don't invite him for Boxing Day to make up for your come of not having him hijack your dc's xmas but do something you want to do, or say you will all pop over to his for a cuppa and chat on Boxing Day, see if he likes the idea of this.

Oneeyedreindeer · 19/12/2022 07:18

FoamingCup · 19/12/2022 07:13

OP, you don't owe your brother any excuse or explanation, also don't invite him for Boxing Day to make up for your come of not having him hijack your dc's xmas but do something you want to do, or say you will all pop over to his for a cuppa and chat on Boxing Day, see if he likes the idea of this.

He would expect me to bring leftovers 100% I am tempted to text him this as an idea for the lulz 😂

this thread has made me feel 100 x better

OP posts:
MaryBeardsShoes · 19/12/2022 07:23

But he's not a "total stranger" in the sense that he's a random person off the street. He's her brother's friend. Personally I would be wondering if there was more to it, but either way I'd extend the invitation.

MaryBeardsShoes · 19/12/2022 07:24

LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 18/12/2022 22:29

I’d seriously question the safeguarding capabilities of people who let strange men into their children’s homes for the whole day because it’s more important to be kind to strangers than it is to consider the welfare of your offspring

Oh for goodness sake

Cats23 · 19/12/2022 07:24

7Worfs · 18/12/2022 22:23

With young DC in the house, absolutely not.

Agree!
Simply tell your brother he can stay with his friend at his house.
This is not your problem at all

MichelleScarn · 19/12/2022 07:25

Why would anyone start breasfeeding with others in the room anyway?Surrly she’d go to bedroom/bathroom/ other room for that antway!!

just when l thought this thread couldn't get anymore ridiculous and female servile expectant! Yes OP in between rushing around looking after random man and your brother, in order to feed your baby, go and sit in the bathroom to do so! 🙄🙄

MaryBeardsShoes · 19/12/2022 07:25

Unless there's some huge backstory about the brother being an arsehole etc. that would be different altogether.

LlynTegid · 19/12/2022 07:26

The person visiting the country would not be alone if the brother hosted Christmas Day for his family, and you visited on Boxing Day OP.

Before re-reading your original post I had more objections to the consoles being brought to, a lesser issue but still a no-no whenever your brother visits.

Cailin66 · 19/12/2022 07:27

Oneeyedreindeer · 19/12/2022 07:09

Nobody lays the table due to the ages of the children but DH clears up

Your brother and mother do nothing at all?

GrabMyParaplu · 19/12/2022 07:28

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TheKitchenWitch · 19/12/2022 07:29

LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 18/12/2022 22:29

I’d seriously question the safeguarding capabilities of people who let strange men into their children’s homes for the whole day because it’s more important to be kind to strangers than it is to consider the welfare of your offspring

MN has now reached peak paranoia.

KettrickenSmiled · 19/12/2022 07:30

MaryBeardsShoes · 19/12/2022 07:23

But he's not a "total stranger" in the sense that he's a random person off the street. He's her brother's friend. Personally I would be wondering if there was more to it, but either way I'd extend the invitation.

More to what?

I thought there was plenty to be going on with, what with all the entitlement & engrained expectations. What 'more' could there possibly be?!

Fizbosshoes · 19/12/2022 07:33

My Dsis invited a work colleague, who would otherwise be alone, to ours one Christmas, when my DC were young (2 and 5). None of us had met him before but it was fine. I think i would have felt different if I was bf though.

KettrickenSmiled · 19/12/2022 07:33

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Yeah. Friendships don't exist, all men are unfaithful AND bisexual, & no two people can share a roof without having sex with each other.

So cute.

KettrickenSmiled · 19/12/2022 07:34

female servile expectant!
😂😂😎

MatronicO6 · 19/12/2022 07:37

This thread is ridiculous. On a site which is meant to be about supporting other women OP has been told
*Welcome a strange man into her own home despite her own discomfort
*To feed her baby in the bathroom of her own home
*To cook for her brother and this random person then deliver it to them, as if they can't cook for themselves?

OP, it's your Christmas too. You are allowed to be comfortable in your own home. It doesn't matter how many people on here would be ok with it, you are allowed to set your own boundaries and decide what you are comfortable with.

It's brothers guest so it's actually his problem, he can either spend Christmas day with you or with his friend.