I might well be unreasonable but here goes.....

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It seems that a lot of the working age population now are snowflakes or incompetent or just don't care enough to do a good job. It's rare to manage people who actually work reliably the hours they are paid to.
I just wonder what would happen to the economy in general if
A) employees turned up and worked hard for the hours they were paid
B) employees only took sick leave when they were really unwell
C) employees did not regard the usual ups and downs of life as 'mental health' but reserved that for people with actual mental illness like clinical depression, schizophrenia etc
D) employees just genuinely cared about doing a good job and tried hard

Also would the NHS thrive if we weren't all so dependent on referrals for minor issues and just took a bit of ownership and responsibility for staying well.

If people stopped blaming social workers for child abuse and looked at the parents.

Sorry a bit of a rant but I'm disillusioned

This...also "woke"

I'm just saying that things are grinding to a halt

and you think it's because workers aren't working properly?

🤔So, yes, you're confused?

No you're just out of touch

there has been an unexpected exodus of workers over 50 mainly due to sickness which is impacting on the labour market & of course we have an ageing population

Says the person who is quite literally no longer in the labour market and so couldn't be less in touch with it. You're, by your own admission, out of touch. Your ignorance (and unbelievable rudeness) is absurd. I'm done with this debate, you've admitted you have experience of what you're debating (the current labour market) so my experienced (and accurate) insight is wasted on you.

*have no experience

GF

Well no, my new job now is protecting my wealth. So I have to be in touch with what's going on.

Note how both the people out of touch made this a personal attack. Don't question me I'm a great manager bla bla

If you'd ever worked in a restaurant, you'd know that the opening hours are in excess of 37.5 hours. There is plenty of scope for overtime.

On repeat:

"Your ignorance (and unbelievable rudeness) is absurd. I'm done with this debate, you've admitted you have no experience of what you're debating (the current labour market) so my experienced (and accurate) insight is wasted on you."

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Don't question me I'm a great manager bla bla

On repeat:

"Your ignorance (and unbelievable rudeness) is absurd. I'm done with this debate, you've admitted you have no experience of what you're debating (the current labour market) so my experienced (and accurate) insight is wasted on you."

I guess the 60% increase in the number of restaurants going out of business is because they haven't worked in a restaurant, then, nothing to do with staffing problems..

Beautifully written.

Your management was bad

...they're going out of business from too few customers, not too few staff...

Sure, if those lazy oiks would work for free then the restaurants might be more profitable but it's just common sense - people will pay for a product/service that's good value. If it's poor value then that's on the management to resolve.

An appropriate wage for the market.

Which your company can't afford in an inflated tight labour market

If one isn't prepared to pay appropriately what's the solution? particularly in a tight labour market. This is all only get worse because we have a shrinking working population & no investment in public services. People could handle the depressed salaries because their house went up in value & credit was cheap. Now that we have inflation the illusion has been stripped away.

Another one that knows better

www.independent.co.uk/news/business/worker-shortage-restaurants-pubs-b1956713.html

Excellent idea!
I completely agree that paying a decent wage and treating employees with respect would go a very long way to help.

I guess the 60% increase in the number of restaurants going out of business is because they haven't worked in a restaurant, then, nothing to do with staffing problems..

Or because they aren't getting the footfall. Why work in a restaurant when you can get paid more in a supermarket?

www.independent.co.uk/news/business/worker-shortage-restaurants-pubs-b1956713.html

Why are people coming up with their own imaginary explanations?

hospitality often pays shit & relied on foreign workers. As the article says we aren't so attractive anymore & we will see more of our young people leaving eg doctors going to Oz because quite frankly they want a better quality of life.

well, yes.

not sure why this is a management problem as people have been trying to explain to me.