to believe H&M because of defamation laws?

[Shejustwentthere]

I've watched the full series on Harry and Meghan.
A few things have struck me.
The most important thing is that there are defamation laws in England. Damage to your reputation is grounds for pursuing such a case. That no such case has yet been initiated by William or Kate, suggests that there is truth in Harry and Meghan's version of events.
Meghan comes across as very vulnerable but very real. She also comes across as very much in love still; as does Harry.
I admire Harry for his decision to leave. I do buy his logic; if the tax payer had even 1% of a contribution to their lives financially, the media could then claim a public interest.
Harry comes across as incredibly intelligent. He has always been touted as the dumb one. He seems to be very much more than some dumb guy.
He adores Meghan and that seems to be reciprocated. She gave him an out.

Harry is very much is mother's son. Diana would have supported Meghan I think. I think they were kindred spirits (Diana and Harry) in a way. Pawns in the game where the king and queen reign...

Come off itl. There is no way the Royal Family would take defamation proceedings. Everyone who goes to a lawyer with a view to such proceedings is, or should be, advised in no uncertain terms that it is the one sure way to magnify the publicity 1000 fold. You could make that a million in the case of the Royal Family.

I'm wondering whether your description of Harry as intelligent is ironic. How intelligent do you have to be to work out that it may not be a great idea to bring out six episodes of whinging about how hard your life is whilst living in luxury at a time when an awful lot of people are genuinely suffering?

It didn't have to cost her those things
M admits she was told she could continue with her career - clearly acknowledging that she wouldn't get the attn she craves.
Her family - I think her dad getting involved with selling pics says more about the ££ than anything. She chose to distance herself from her family. As for feeling suicidal, I don't doubt that it's challenging being in the public eye in this way BUT they were more protected from paparazzi in the UK than the US.
Protection - only pulled when they became non working/non resident royals. They can't have it all ways.
If she was that bothered she would not use the title Duchess & happily relinquish all her titles - he was born a prince so could choose to use that if he preferred. IMO, they are raging that they can't make a fast buck from using the the Royal Highness moniker. Let's face it, they were never going to earn £100M plus from their 'talents'.
They need to get over themselves, the relentless blame game is not a good look. I think they've run out of road now.

I don’t think they ever did want to be left alone. They were videoing from the start, already taking to Oprah before rhe wedding.

the reality is, if we listen carefully they told us. They didn’t mean to tell us but they told us.

they told us how Meghan was the new Diana, how she was going to come in and throw out all the stuffy traditions, how she would be the star the royal family needed, how she was better at rhe job than the others.

then they said they were all jealous of Meghan. Because of her super stardom. Of course that’s nonsense, the queen, Charles William Kate rhe duke if Edinburgh were not remotely jealous of Meghan,

The issue the faced is the royal family put them back in their place. Led by the queen, and backed up by Charles and William. And so Meghan and harry decided to go and seek their fame and fortune in the states

I don't know. Who cares enough to comment about not caring about something they have no knowledge of nor opinion on? I don't know anyone who would not care that much.

And jeez have we learnt nothing about the damage of pressures from the press and public wrecking peoples mental health. .How old are George ? and Louis?
they are 2 little boys who are already being compared to each other and expectations put on them by the OP and others. George is unhappy and miserable whilst Louis will be the rebel who shakes up the RF apparently!
it is this kind of intrusion and pressure that has so damaged the likes of Harry and yet here we go again for the next generation.

The whole washing your dirty laundry in public is so low class. Why don't they just do a Jezza revival show and get it all out of their system. Is Springer still around?

What I want to know is who took all these photos and who filmed every single private moment and why.

In one of the new episodes we have Meghan and Harry kissing in the kitchen and there is someone filming. They pack up Frogmore cottage and there is someone filming. This is what put me off.

Oh, and the impeccable timing of William's text alongside with the Beyonce fangirling Meghan. I bet they are now sorry they didn't invite her to the wedding.

They don't need HRH to garner interest. People are interested in them.

To be fair, marrying into that institution cost her her career, her family and almost her life (unless you think that she's lying about feeling suicidal?)

She could have continued her career- that was offered.
She chose to lose her family - that's all on her.
Anyone going through change such as moving countries can feel depressed. She was however in the BEST position to get help as had access to money and Dr's. No queuing for a GP.

I don't understand how they resolve the contradictions in their narrative. They were so popular that others were jealous but they were also hated due to racism.

I haven't even got around to Charlotte! Also a 'spirited' young lady. Very Princess Anne I think - even in her looks.

then they said they were all jealous of Meghan. Because of her super stardom. Of course that’s nonsense, the queen, Charles William Kate rhe duke if Edinburgh were not remotely jealous of Meghan

I don't think there was any jealously but M was very popular initially. I actually thought it was amazing that she was dropped into the "role" & coped with the tours remarkably well. They are not easy gigs!

True enough for the moment. Give it six months with no new material to whinge about, which is why the RF won't start defamatory proceedings.

What class are you from? The class of '88?

The whole washing your dirty laundry in public is so low class

I don't disagree but it's quite a Royal thing to do! 😆

This whole episode has shown that there's class and there's class. You can be of the very highest social class and yet have no class.

Harry isn't intelligent - he didn't do well at school despite all the help that would have been available. He didn't rise to a higher army rank beyond Captain as the following promotions are selective and he must not have been deemed capable.

I don't judge him for his intelligence but he really can't be called smart.

They know the palace wont respond, because that's not what The Royal Family do. They are above the gutter press that Meghan engages with every day. Its easy to throw accusations that you know will be ignored

In 5 years she has never opened her mouth.

the issue was it was not a complete picture. It was not an independent documentary showing both sides, it was what they wished the public to know. And only what they wished the public to know. Not the full story by any means and I’m surprised anyone thinks it is.

Does anyone not think this? it's PR just like when the Royals or other celebs do similar.

They didn’t want to know their place, they wanted equal or higher billing to Kate and William

Where does the narrative come from that they wanted equal billing. Harry surely knows he couldn't be King, was he hoping to be? I haven't seen anything that suggested that. Did he want to change protocols?

Ok.

That’s why they need to get the public back on side. Which is what this is supposed to do.

meghans Spotify podcasts are dropping in the ratings. Netflix isn’t proceeding with content. If they can’t get the public back on side to the extent they will watch content because it’s them, then both Spotify and Netflix will terminate , its looking likely at this stage and then they have nothing left.

becsude the royals won’t give them access any more , so they will need to rehash it over and over to the highest bidder.

the next controversy is likely going to be the coronation. Where they will want to come,and be seen.have a staring role . I suspect there is also a strong likely hood they will lose their Sussex titles,

it Really could go either way, but even the USA media is appalled, Oprah is backing right off, Elton doesn’t want To be involved, and rhe clooneys who said they had dinners etc George has now said they are not socialising or close. Everyone is backing off them.

Not a chance the Royal Family would pursue legal action no matter what H&M say.

It's a daft reason to believe H&M

I think they have both been incredibly naive and badly advised.

Everything could have been so better managed - on every side.

I just don't know why they couldn't have waited until the the Queen had died (nothing at all was going to change whilst she was the monarch).

Harry and Meghan could have had private chat about their role in the RF with his dad & brother. They could've modernised the monarchy together.

Instead they have caused a huge chasm which will be hard to come back from. It's so obvious that this was for the US audience, do they even care about the UK anymore?

Watched the series. I think on the surface they both come across as sincere and empathetic. It’s only when you step away and actually look at what they said that you start to think “hang on”. What really struck me was the filming and photographing of all intimate moments. I cannot imagine my DH filming me crying for example. All just very staged and what I would expect to see on an Instagram highlight reel. Also … that text from Beyoncé. It made me laugh and die a little inside that she even read it out on camera and was not even embarrassed about it.

Posts like this pop up every now and again and I'm never sure if the poster is actually seeing what they're claiming or just being completely disingenuous.

Kate NEVER looks happy? Really? Despite all the photographic evidence to the contrary? See also zero chemistry claim.

Affairs claims? Probably as much truth in the rumours (because that's all they are) as the rumours of Meghan being a yacht girl and Doria spending time in prison.

Plenty of photos of George looking perfectly happy and smiley. But of course a smiley George will doubtless be accused of being robotic.