Bi or pansexual

[dawnfromgavinandstacey]

I've just been blocked by someone that I know via friends and family. They are semi famous.

They are out and gay and happy.

They have just come out on Instagram as pansexual. I have asked how is it different to being bi.

I am bi.

I'm really sorry if I'm offending anyone but to me it's the same.

You like the person. Doesn't matter how they identify you just fancy them. For whatever reason. You just do. You like them.

I've been blocked and asked snottily if I get the difference.

I will be honest. No I don't. You like who you like. Regardless.

What is the difference. You like who you like. Regardless of if they are a a man or or women.

Have I missed something here?

You get a monopoly on what everyone thinks?

Right?

Ok.

So you do think bisexuals will shag anyone, therefore admitting to casual biphobia. You crack on and think that I’m not arsed. It’s just an incredibly poor and lazy attempt at humour.

It’s not anymore of a faff than me swiping left on ALL the women who are not my type though? How is it any different in fact? It’s the exact same thing. Except there are way less transwomen in the pool than women who aren’t my type actually…

And also, some people who identify as lesbians do date transwomen, dating apps is a game of swiping through probably 99% of people who aren’t right for you to find that 1%. Transwomen are barely a game changer when they make sooo little of the dating pool.

You really are slow on the uptake here.

I personally think its incredible tiresome to get upset over it. Its not that important.

Whoops forgot to quote message from @lifeturnsonadime

Yeah you’re right, who gives a fuck about the bisexuals ey? They’re already greedy fuckers wanting men and women, and they’ll shag anything that moves 🙄

I always feel a bit sorry for the mods at @MNHQ. They must have an alert that goes out behind the scenes that’s shorthand for “Oh, sweet baby Jesus, we’ve got a Gender thread on the loose outside FWR!” 😃

Yeah, so I’d assume (because this is how I use it) that people who are bi are not attracted to that particular group of people whether natal male or female.

I don’t want to date someone who identifies as non binary regardless of their natal sex. So I describe myself as bisexual. It rules out anyone who self identifies as anything other than a man or a woman. I just don’t find it attractive.

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I've had LT relationships with males and females and I thought your comment was really funny!

😂😂😂

Not read the thread but is this guy off a reality show on E4?

You're probably straight so you've always had a label for your sexuality. you don't know what it's like not to have words for what you are.

Com on, it is fairly obvious what is meant.

• Bi: you date cis men and cis women.
• Pansexual: you also people who identity as non-binary or are trans.

No need to turn this into a big issue.

Whether you agree on these labels is your own decision but that person also has the right to describe themselves as they wish.

You also chose to describe the person as ''gay'', if they describe themselves as pansexual they are not limiting themselves to one gender so they are not gay.

Of course they blocked you, because you purposely decided to be obtuse about and focus on something which frankly is fairly easy to understand and you made that person feel uncomfortable.

Everyone has a word for "what they are" in the category of label that "straight" is in, i.e. sexual orientation. Logically, at any one time an individual can be heterosexual, homosexual, bisexual or asexual, and those categories cover all possibilities. Whatever preferences you might or might not have on top of that, for gender presentation or emotional connection or whatever, are additional things that some people don't feel necessarily require a label. You could call yourself a homoromantic greyace pansexual, but if you're capable of feeling sexual attraction to male and female people in at least some circumstances, then you're bisexual and there was already a word for what you are.

That doesn't make much sense unless you consider "child" a separate sex which would otherwise be excluded from sexual orientation terms.

Yes, this is what frustrates me. Surely the aspiration should be that noone needs to label themselves.

No OP. You haven’t missed anything at all.

You appear to be channeling Riley J Dennis

Sexual orientation is a protected characteristic. Kicking lesbians off a dating app for saying 'I'm looking for a female partner' is discriminatory af. Same for gay men looking for a male partner.

Here's the late, great Magdalen Berns:

If there is that many ‘sexualities’ does this mean that people have conflated sexual orientation and sexuality.

Because sexual orientation relating to attraction to human to human sex was always either hetero, homo or bi or asexual.

Than sexuality could be anything. I say human to human because, of course, there are males who are have sex with non-humans - people have provided news reports before including pavements believe it or not!

Or are fetishes and paraphilias not sexualities?

Most people don't identify as anything though.

Gender identity is a pretty niche concept, however much they try to pretend that everyone has one.

People who have penises having sex with people with vaginas are not same sex attracted.

There is no problem with dating sites for EVERYONE but males should let lesbians have a space for themselves.

Kicking a same sex attracted woman off a dating site for objecting to males being on it is quite simply homophobic.

It’s because this is such a bizarre take on it, similar to me implying that if you like penises, you must also be attracted to ones belonging to little boys.

It’s a given that when people discuss their sexual preferences they discuss those of fellow people in their age group who can consent.

To imply that pansexuals (or bisexual people who are attracted to the same set of genitalia as pansexual folks) like children is odd, and comes across very much like people who say “gay people being accepted? What’s next? Pedophiles?” It’s just absolutely ridiculous to associate the two.

No, no it’s not. Pansexuality is always between consenting adults. It’s not some form of pedophilla, it’s not a form of any philia. If you’re a heterosexual woman does that mean that technically you’re attracted to little boys? No. This is how silly you sound. Just because someone can be attracted to and fall in love with another adult human, regardless of their gender, chosen gender, birth gender etc. does not make you a rapist. Back down to earth now thanks that’s great.