Meet the Other Phone. Child-safe in minutes.

Meet the Other Phone.
Child-safe in minutes.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

DD homeless abroad

432 replies

EmilioSoup · 08/12/2022 18:44

Okay, I’m prepared to be told my daughter needs to toughen up and I’m getting too involved but I’ve had her on the phone in absolute bits.

My 18 year old DD moved to Canada 8 weeks ago, on a temporary travel visa. Got a job in a hotel with staff accommodation, just near the hotel. We were so, so proud of her and thought it was a brilliant opportunity. They really liked her during interview.

She hasn’t had the best luck of it, and got struck down with influenza a week in, requiring an A&E visit (she’s insured, thank god). She was first taken ill at work, having fainted, they allowed her to leave to seek medical attention but nobody offered her a lift. Not saying anybody owes her a lift, but I think it’s common decency. She had a week off, was pressured into returning whilst still ill. Unfortunately the virus has caused some long-term side effects for her, such as thyroid problems, and she’s been struggling.

Yesterday, she had a performance review. She has had no feedback previously, had no inclination that anything was wrong. The review was terrible. I have seen a screenshot of the written review she was presented with, these are direct quoted:

“X seems to lack basic social skills, struggling in interactions with guests. She is robotic. We suggest X seeks support for this and an assessment.” (This seems to be implying that my daughter has ASD or something? She certainly doesn’t! Has always had many friends and been fine in school and other customer facing jobs! ASD has never, ever been on anybody’s radar. How can they think it’s okay to say this in a work review?)

“X causes other staff members stress due to her incapabilities. Newer staff members are a lot more capable than X. X is a hindrance on every shift she is on.”

“X is always claiming to be ill, and has no concept of basic punctuality.”

Among other stuff. She was the told she was dismissed, and had to be out of the staff accommodation that night with nowhere else to go. She called me in absolute bits. Luckily she has savings and has gone to a hotel, but it’s in a very expensive area and hotel is £350 a night. She has about £2000 left. She is trying to find another job with staff accommodation last minute but if nothing comes up, she will have to book a flight home. I have told her that once her savings get down to below £1000, she needs to come home as we don’t have the means to send her money for an emergency flight back on once she can no longer afford the hotel. So likely she will be home in the next few days.

DD is devastated about the work review and feels it went too far, and that it was a character assassination. Maybe it isn’t the job for her, fair enough, but I think the comments are incredibly cruel and they should’ve given her more notice to sort out alternative accommodation. She spent so much money on this visa, and was so excited to go, and she is heartbroken. They don’t owe her a job and home, of course they don’t, but had they handled it differently she probably could have sorted out a new job with staff housing, as there is plenty of it in the town. I don’t know why I’m posting on AIBU as I expect to be told she’s an adult, isn’t owed anything etc etc but I am heartbroken. She has had mental health issues before and this was supposed to be the making of her, and her confidence has been destroyed.

OP posts:
Delphinium20 · 09/12/2022 19:21

Also, customer service employees in N. America are expected to be upbeat, friendly, extroverted and engaging. That's why we get grief when we travel to other parts of the world because we're so loud. It could be a cultural difference in behavior.

Missingpop · 09/12/2022 19:22

It’s very sad but shes 18; she’s been poorly & she’s a long way from home; could there be some truth in what been written?
Before everyone jumps down my throat; an 18 year old feeling crappy; basically being forced back to work isn’t going to be working anywhere near 100%.
I know as a parent that I can say if it were my child they one thing they’d want is to be at home with mum; sleeping in their own warm bed; eating wholesome meals made by mum; knowing everything is going to be ok & that they are safe.
It doesn’t sound like this young lady has had much understanding in the past few weeks I’d be telling her to get herself on the next flight home; no one needs to know about this bump in the road; if anyone asks; she became unwell & wasn’t improving so she decided to come home for Christmas & will se how it goes in tge new year xx
I hope she comes home safely & is able to put this nasty experience behind her these people don’t appear to be very pleasant x

Buteverythingsfine · 09/12/2022 19:22

I went away when I was 17 on a gap year and it wasn't a great success, I got out of my depth quickly and ended up coming home and struggling with panic attacks. I was so glad my mum just took me in unquestioningly and I was able to restart and reset things. I then went to uni the following year and did great, and I didn't have another panic attack for decades. It's ok to be young and have false starts, it's about what you do afterwards that matters. Hugs to you and your daughter, you sound like a great mum who will support your dd in this misstep and help her get back up again.

rookiemere · 09/12/2022 19:27

@Burgoo , but OP says that "previous jobs loved her, her last one has said they’ll have her back in a flash when back from Canada."

I think it's far more likely that the poor review is caused by DD not being fully well and perhaps struggling to get to work on time if not well, and not as smily and jolly as Canadian employees seem to be as it's a bit alien to her culture.

Heyhoitsme · 09/12/2022 19:31

If it was my daughter I'd want her home. My son ended up in a bad way in Australia. I was so relieved when he got home.

MadameMackenzie · 09/12/2022 19:32

I know of a hotel in the most beautiful part of the Lake District that has staff accommodation as my 22yr old nephew lives & works there - he LOVES it! 7 months in and he's choosing to stay there over Christmas as he enjoys it so much. This is a lad that wouldn't even keep appointments let alone jobs, so it must be good!

Happy to pass on the details to your DD if you PM me, OP. For once she's recovered. Not quite Canada but a beautiful place none the less!

Flippingnora100 · 09/12/2022 19:33

Now that she’s coming home, the meaning she makes of the experience will be important for her confidence and her future approach to life. I would suggest trying to encourage her that it was just bad luck and has no bearing on her actual capabilities or ability to succeed in life. Maybe once she has recovered she can work a bit to save up and go traveling for a few weeks instead. I’m sure she’ll feel so much better to be home for a few weeks. How lucky that she has this support in her life.

I don’t think it was unrealistic at all to go at 18. So many parents coddle this generation of kids when we would have been perfectly capable at the same age.

She just got unlucky with getting ill, not recovering quickly, not being fully able to work and not having a very sympathetic employer.

Onwards and upwards!

Delphinium20 · 09/12/2022 19:41

Just read the post about the creepy man at the airport. Fucking hell...not surprising at all, but yeah, my DD was dealing with that a few weeks ago when traveling. Reality of being a woman. Your DD sounds like she'll be fine. Once she gets home, she can make some money, regroup and maybe do a month Eurail adventure in the spring when the weather is lovely - Italy and Greece are particularly nice at that time. I wish our DDs could have met up and commiserated - both have had not so good starts to their gap years. But in a way, they've learned a lot, haven't they? Your DD will be even more prepared in her next adventure.

JT69 · 09/12/2022 19:42

I do feel for your daughter - it’s the right thing to come home. Give her the biggest hug when you see her 😊

Unicorn1919 · 09/12/2022 19:43

My DS did two years in ski resorts in Western Canada. He never had an issue finding jobs (most were seasonal so the off-seasons were a bit lean). If she wants to stay, I suggest she just walks around the town visiting the big hotels as they would normally be crying out for staff at this time of year.

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 09/12/2022 19:44

@EmilioSoup , I’d have done the same. 18 is still very young and she was evidently ill - I’d have wanted her home.

My dds both went travelling all over, for over a year each, but in both cases it was after graduating - they were that much older. Nothing untoward happened, but if it had, I’d still have wanted them home asap, and would have helped however I could.

Norriscolesbag · 09/12/2022 19:48

This is just awful :(

Please get her home and give her the best and most living Christmas ever. Then sort Plan B in the new year.

Jewel7 · 09/12/2022 19:57

I worked abroad at a young age went on my own. It was the biggest shock at first, being out of my comfort zone. Maybe she has struggled to find her feet. Plus being I’ll. I would look into ski seasons if she still wants to do something for her gap year. After Xmas I’m sure they will still take people.

Devora13 · 09/12/2022 20:04

@AnyFucker
Is your name Jane, as in Jane Judgemental. Still, good to know there's one person in the world who never makes mistakes or does anything without fully considering all the possible implications. Or just 'who never does anything.'

WillMellorsHips · 09/12/2022 20:05

Unicorn1919 · 09/12/2022 19:43

My DS did two years in ski resorts in Western Canada. He never had an issue finding jobs (most were seasonal so the off-seasons were a bit lean). If she wants to stay, I suggest she just walks around the town visiting the big hotels as they would normally be crying out for staff at this time of year.

You haven't read the thread, have you?

Iseestupidpeople · 09/12/2022 20:25

Please name and shame the hotel!

That is very un-Canadian.

Not sure it’s legal either to be honest!

AnyFucker · 09/12/2022 20:27

@Devora13 well since quite a few people on this thread agree with me why aren’t you having a dig at them too ?

and that other wind up merchant on here that I can’t be arsed to scroll back for can stfu too

Inwiththenew · 09/12/2022 20:28

18 is very young to be so far away from home and on your own. You’re often under the impression that 18 is adulthood and they are suddenly expected to deal with whatever comes their way but this can cause a huge amount of anxiety. Better that she is not so far away .

Justbefair · 09/12/2022 20:30

She's so young and scared and she's been so ill, on top of that this horrible reviewing being turfed out, finding somewhere to stay etc. She's toughened up enough to have gone out there and done it, if she can go ahead and carry on and meet new people, get a new job then yes she will become resilient, like we all had to in the days before Internet and mobile phones when we did feel totally isolated, but on the other hand if she needs to come home and basically have a Mummy cuddle and home warmth, there is no shame in that at all. X

Nottodaysausage · 09/12/2022 20:42

Oh bless her ❤️
Fwiw OP my sister got dreadfully ill in Australia on her gap year with shingles and then chronic fatigue. She was very healthy before this.
I think she should have come home but she moved around, stuck it out, changed jobs etc. My sister hasn't really ever recovered health wise, and I do think it's a lot to do with not being able to come home to her own bed, and have her mum look after her a bit.
I'm sure that sounds daft to many people but being cared for when you're ill is invaluable.

It's perhaos worth her taking another bite at the apple next summer, and taking a shot at rep season somewhere like ibiza or majorca with other young fun people.

SpongeBobJudgeyPants · 09/12/2022 20:43

Daffi · 09/12/2022 18:55

Brits aren't suited to hotel work, they are far too lazy

Inflammatory, much? Hmm

Sodonewiththisshit · 09/12/2022 20:52

💐for you and your DD, OP. I hope she's home with you soon and makes a good recovery. Has she got her uni place sorted for September?

catflycat · 09/12/2022 20:58

I think you're very worried about her bring away and possibly ill, and would prefer she just come home which is understandable. But she will want to have the best chance to enjoy the adventure she planned, and Canada is an amazing place to be!

Very bad form of the hotel to kick her out with no notice in the winter , particularly when she's been ill, and not look after her while she was poorly. We used to live in Canada and they let people ride the busses for free in the winner because of the weather extremes, so noone gets stranded, so this sounds very unusual. Is the hotel a chain and did they sponsor her visa? If I were her I'd be tempted to try and get in touch with someone higher up and complain/ see is anything can be done.

But as others have said, otherwise I'd head to a big city, near a cheap flight route, and look for a hostel and another job. Or try other nearby resort town. It looks like West jet flights Calgary to London are only about £300 this week at the dearest?

Tiggy321 · 09/12/2022 21:04

This whole “18 is really young to be doing this” comments is crazy! Your daughter has done an amazing thing and I would encourage her to stay and try to find something else. My 18 year old is off in Feb on his gap year to Asia for 6 months- no real plan, just travelling through 5 or 6 countries. I have encouraged it as what a great adventure! I did similar aged 18/19 too. Life lessons and all that.

GoodEnough1 · 09/12/2022 21:08

Just get her home. Sort out the finances later.