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He says I have to get back to work

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Tellmewhenthegoodstuffstarts · 08/12/2022 14:03

Have worked all my life and often earned more than Dh, until we had Dd, 4, later in life. After maternity I decided to stay at home with Dd, we’ve always had enough to get by on his one wage, although nothing really much left over for treats for ourselves etc (I’m not bothered at all)
Dd has everything she needs and more..clubs, activities, days out, clothes, books, toys if needed and has a wonderful life.
She’s just started pre school part time a few mornings per week and is currently awaiting assessment for possible adhd
We sometimes fall behind with bill payments, but I’m always able to get us back on track, we get by and Dd wants got nothing.
I’m a teacher by trade but never want to return to teaching full time as I was before Dd, I’m willing to do any other work at all, as long as it can fit around Dd.
Ive been asked many times to do private tutoring in the evenings and weekends and babysitting at night, I’ve done this in the past but Dh doesn’t think it’s fair to be at work all day and then look after Dd in the evenings and at weekends,
These are the only times I’m able to fit with around Dd at present.
Dh has been complaining and getting angry that he *Works his arse off but has nothing extra to show for it. He works only Mom-Fri-9-5 hrs, has holidays and takes days off when he can, preferring to be off than earning money that day, two days wishing the last two weeks, when we desperately need extra money for Xmas.
Ive managed to save back and get all Dds presents aside from her main big one and have put aside money for the Christmas food shop etc. We’ve just had an electricity bill come in (which could’ve been paid by the two days he took off, if he’d worked)
He’s gone mad saying he’s sick of working so hard and still struggling and that I need to get a job, he’s basically put all the blame on me. I’ve said to him I can make a good amount of money working some evenings and weekends but that he complains, I’ve said how can I easily find work within the hours of 9.30-11.30, three days per week. I’m willing to work and want the extra money myself, how can the blame be put on me when I’m giving him options that he refuses?
I want to keep Dd part time at pre school for now as she’s already struggling and feeling overwhelmed with just those hours as can be seen by her behaviour. I want to stay with her the rest of the time in the day and make sure she’s not over stressed but then can go to work when he’s home.
Sick of this all being my fault somehow, is it?

OP posts:
Boomerangs · 08/12/2022 20:05

I think husband is being unreasonable
op has said she will work some evenings & weekends .. what’s the worst that could happen the husband has to put his own child to bed a few times a week? He needs to man up and take over childcare whist op is at work as she does when he is

Dittosaw · 08/12/2022 20:06

Lots of wools have gotten Ben great suggestions and every one has been shot down. At this point OP just wants everyone to agree and sympathise with her.

A cheap babysitter would be half of what you earned tutoring so you can work evenings/weekends. Except you won’t, will you?

I mean, I get that you probably think your DH should support you now as you have supported him. Except it didn’t turn out that way, there’s a cost of living crisis and everyone is doing all they can.

I don’t really want to work extremely long hours and I miss the interaction with my kids. But if I get into debt because I didn’t try harder, I will regret it more. It is gruelling never getting a break. What we “should” get has got me out of the window and I really think you should compromise on this.

It’s the inflexibility and not listening to what people say, including your DH.

I had a relationship with someone who had objections to everything all the time and could only ever do what they wanted. It didn’t last.

Angelil · 08/12/2022 20:06

sheepdogdelight · 08/12/2022 20:05

I'm curious as to how much work OP thinks she can do from evening and weekend tutoring and babysitting. If she's reliant on her DH looking after their DC, she won't be able to start until 6pm (say) which means she can really only 2 hours of tutoring in an evening before it gets too late (allowing for a gap between people). And for 2 hours of tutoring DH has to do all the evening/bedtime sorting, which is the worst part of the day in a lot of people's opinions.

I have to admit, that if I had the choice of full time job and then having sole charge of DC and doing bedtime when I got home; or having the whole day with my child, including 3 hours to myself while they were at pre-school, and then a couple of hours tutoring in the evening.... well, I think OP very much has the easy end of the stick.

There is an awful lot of polarised opinions on this thread.
But what it boils down to is that OP wants to do one thing because it suits her best, and DH wants to do another thing because it suits him best. I actually don't think either of them are wrong, but they both seem unable to see the opposite point of view (and of course we don't get to see DH's POV at all).

As mentioned, there are plenty of ways to tutor in the daytime.

Dittosaw · 08/12/2022 20:06

*lots of posters have given great ideas

Delatron · 08/12/2022 20:07

Elsiebear90 · 08/12/2022 19:57

I would be more on OP’s side if it wasn’t for the comments about her DH “only” working full time and her resenting him taking a few days of annual leave and not working extra hours evenings and weekends. That’s remarkably entitled considering she hasn’t worked for four years and is refusing to work more than a few hours herself despite being entitled to 30 hours free child care.

I think she’s making a lot of assumptions (which suit her to make) about what would happen if she worked, based around him not doing much childcare and housework for the past four years, but surely that is because as a SAHM that was primarily her role? What was he like before her daughter was born? They’ve been together for 26 years, if he was lazy when they were child free she would have a point, but she only refers to the last four years when she argues he wouldn’t do any housework or childcare if she returned to work, which is telling.

The facts are that they are barely getting by financially, her husband is miserable and quite rightly isn’t keen on the idea of her working only evenings/weekends as that means he has to work full time and then be solely responsible for the childcare and housework in his spare time. Their daughter will soon be attending school full time, so the most sensible option is to increase her hours at pre school and for OP to get a part time job. I can’t figure out whether OP is being precious about her daughter not being able to manage more hours (she’s going to have anyway next year when she’s at school all day) or whether it’s a convenient excuse to avoid having to go back to work. Ultimately, it’s not fair on her husband to continue to be the sole earner when they are late paying bills, have no spare cash and there’s 30 hours of childcare available enabling OP to go back to work.

She worked tutoring when her baby was a newborn so it’s not 4 years. She had a redundancy and savings (being the higher earner for most of their relationship) so was contributing financially. I’m guessing she has experience of what he was like when she was struggling to look after a baby all day, (and the rest) then work in the evening the do all the night feeds. If he’d been a big help then I’m sure she may feel differently.

Autumninnewyork · 08/12/2022 20:08

OP, you are prioritising your DD. If DH is rejecting your suggestions regarding you working (evenings etc) what is he actually suggesting? And why can’t it wait until next September. If DD is struggling then more childcare for her is not the right way forward at this point. Good luck. Sounds like you’re doing the right thing

holidaysGalore · 08/12/2022 20:09

How severe is the adhd? If a standard nursery will have her and she'll probably soon be medicated, I'd chill out. 1/6 kids have adhd or autism and most parents work FT

I work FT forever and have 3 kids (not just 1!) and 1 has ADHD. You get on with it.

Go back teaching as supply 3 days and just extend the nursery.

I know so many men who've had affairs or left lazy women that won't work. Don't leave him seething as I don't know any men that's put up with this! Life is expensive SAHM only exist in the 1990s, farms or poor parts of the U.K.

You've enjoyed 4 years, apply for jobs while sorting the diagnosis and medication. It's no big deal.

Hollowgast · 08/12/2022 20:10

Illstartexercisingtomorrow · 08/12/2022 19:49

Sounds like the main problem is you and your DH have different values.

You are prepared to have less for yourself and make do in order to cushion your DD - you put her first.

He wants his treats/luxuries back and not have to do any extra outside of 9-5, ie the pre-kid era.

You won’t solve this unless you’re both willing to have a very honest talk and real compromise.

You could also say that he values some financial stability in what looks like an upcoming recession while she's blindly squandering money they don't have on things that the family don't really need (referring to the "wanting for nothing" part of the OP)

I don't agree with this way of framing it either, but lets try for a bit of balance please.

Emotionalsupportviper · 08/12/2022 20:11

He wants you to work but isn't prepared to spend time with his own child to facilitate it?

He's an *rse!

sheepdogdelight · 08/12/2022 20:11

As mentioned, there are plenty of ways to tutor in the daytime.

yes, but OP is focused on the idea that she works in the evening/weekend or she doesn't work at all.

TERRRYsnotmine · 08/12/2022 20:13

holidaysGalore · 08/12/2022 20:09

How severe is the adhd? If a standard nursery will have her and she'll probably soon be medicated, I'd chill out. 1/6 kids have adhd or autism and most parents work FT

I work FT forever and have 3 kids (not just 1!) and 1 has ADHD. You get on with it.

Go back teaching as supply 3 days and just extend the nursery.

I know so many men who've had affairs or left lazy women that won't work. Don't leave him seething as I don't know any men that's put up with this! Life is expensive SAHM only exist in the 1990s, farms or poor parts of the U.K.

You've enjoyed 4 years, apply for jobs while sorting the diagnosis and medication. It's no big deal.

The ADHD has not even been confirmed, its a mere possibility.

Elsiebear90 · 08/12/2022 20:14

Delatron · 08/12/2022 20:07

She worked tutoring when her baby was a newborn so it’s not 4 years. She had a redundancy and savings (being the higher earner for most of their relationship) so was contributing financially. I’m guessing she has experience of what he was like when she was struggling to look after a baby all day, (and the rest) then work in the evening the do all the night feeds. If he’d been a big help then I’m sure she may feel differently.

I don’t know, we’re only hearing her side and the language she uses is very telling. Some people find it very difficult to get back into work when they’ve been off for a long time, my dad was made redundant and took a year off job hunting as they could afford to rely on his redundancy and he just couldn’t face going back to work again. He worked his entire life from 15 to 55, so he’s not lazy by any means, but he was full of excuses when it came to finding another job. Without hearing her husband’s side it’s difficult to know whether he would be unwilling to do more or whether it’s a convenient excuse for OP.

randomfriends · 08/12/2022 20:14

The amount of people on this thread who haven't actually read the OP properly and clearly have major prejudice against SAHPs is astounding! OP, YANBU. I'm a SAHM & I've got 3 ND kids. I know what it's like to be at home with an ND child, I know what it's like to have an ND child who hates pre-school and I know what it's like to be married to a man-child like your DH, because I have one too.

My DH is a contractor and only gets paid when he works. He made this choice (shock horror) without really consulting me because, in theory, he earns more. After years of him moaning about money, I recently began looking for work as my youngest started school, but once he realised that he was going to have to be somewhat flexible to enable me to work (he wfh, no set hours) he mysteriously changed his tune.

Your DD's needs come first and things will only be harder for everyone if you ignore them. He is a father, when his child's needs are met he can do what he wants, but until then he is an adult and he needs to behave like one. I've only recently realised that I literally have to remind my DH of this, in those actual words and he's 43! You are your DD's advocate, she needs you to speak up for her and sometimes that means within your own family.

Perhaps the question should be what would HE do, if you buggered off and left him with DD, cos my DH would be f*cked and most importantly, he knows it!

Rollingupahill · 08/12/2022 20:15

This all boils down to for me on whether the DC has significant SEN or not. And the OP hasn't really said.

I would be interested to know what the DH thinks about OPs concerns about potential SEN. Does he respond that they are overblown or that he will do more to help with them, or what? Surely that point must have been discussed.

There is so much the OP hasn't said. Obviously up to OP what to disclose but means there is a lot of noise on this thread but not enough facts, which I think is pointless

Confusion101 · 08/12/2022 20:16

I think it also boils down to being financially stable and OP has said they don't have money for some bills and fall behind on payments!

randomfriends · 08/12/2022 20:17

Rollingupahill · 08/12/2022 20:15

This all boils down to for me on whether the DC has significant SEN or not. And the OP hasn't really said.

I would be interested to know what the DH thinks about OPs concerns about potential SEN. Does he respond that they are overblown or that he will do more to help with them, or what? Surely that point must have been discussed.

There is so much the OP hasn't said. Obviously up to OP what to disclose but means there is a lot of noise on this thread but not enough facts, which I think is pointless

She did say she'd been referred for assessment and in my experience they wouldn't do that for ADHD until 6, unless it was very significant.

Notimeforaname · 08/12/2022 20:18

Just take the evening/weekend work then.

He can moan about looking after his child but he'll just have to do it if you're not there.
Same for dinner/housework...he can complain all he likes, you'll be at work.

TERRRYsnotmine · 08/12/2022 20:18

randomfriends · 08/12/2022 20:14

The amount of people on this thread who haven't actually read the OP properly and clearly have major prejudice against SAHPs is astounding! OP, YANBU. I'm a SAHM & I've got 3 ND kids. I know what it's like to be at home with an ND child, I know what it's like to have an ND child who hates pre-school and I know what it's like to be married to a man-child like your DH, because I have one too.

My DH is a contractor and only gets paid when he works. He made this choice (shock horror) without really consulting me because, in theory, he earns more. After years of him moaning about money, I recently began looking for work as my youngest started school, but once he realised that he was going to have to be somewhat flexible to enable me to work (he wfh, no set hours) he mysteriously changed his tune.

Your DD's needs come first and things will only be harder for everyone if you ignore them. He is a father, when his child's needs are met he can do what he wants, but until then he is an adult and he needs to behave like one. I've only recently realised that I literally have to remind my DH of this, in those actual words and he's 43! You are your DD's advocate, she needs you to speak up for her and sometimes that means within your own family.

Perhaps the question should be what would HE do, if you buggered off and left him with DD, cos my DH would be f*cked and most importantly, he knows it!

Were you struggling to pay bills though? You have 3 kids and OP has one.

Paying bills is not a luxury it's a necessity.

IneedanewTV · 08/12/2022 20:19

Tellmewhenthegoodstuffstarts · 08/12/2022 14:25

I want to work, I have viable options to work that will bring in more money than working the day.
it doesn’t suit me to be nit working during the day, I’m genuinely worried for Dd and want things to be as stress free as possible for Dd until she has help in place, my hope is for next September when she will be in full time…at this point I can find a job during the hours she is at school
My top concern and priority is my Dd, not having more money for things for ourselves, I don’t care about that.

Thing is you might not have a marriage soon if you don’t compromise. Then you will be expected to work. You have had 4 years at home. I had one year then back to work. It’s not fair to expect one adult to financially support a house in 2022 and the other to be at home with a four year old if financially they need the money.

Zone2NorthLondon · 08/12/2022 20:20

You’re simply being avoidant of working,making up reasons to not work
It is not Blenheim estate it’s a regular house it doesn’t need days end of cleaning ,shopping etc
Get groceries online and a system going to keep on top your chores
plus if you’re out working all week and dd is in nursery there less to do

other women hold down FT jobs and have children you can too

Rollingupahill · 08/12/2022 20:21

randomfriends · 08/12/2022 20:17

She did say she'd been referred for assessment and in my experience they wouldn't do that for ADHD until 6, unless it was very significant.

Yes that is also my experience, and also that there may be other difficulties in addition to ADHD. In that scenario, the OP and DH may always have do more intense childcare and advocacy, although obviously it can be split up between them in many ways, rather than the OP being at home and the DH working.

Thinkbiglittleone · 08/12/2022 20:24

Surely if you tutor a few evening a week then your DDs father on has to parent her for a couple of hours before bed, if he doesn't finish until 17.00 isn't your DD in bed not long after.

And if you got to work full time, he will have to parent his child of an evening, and help with the cleaning, making tea, washing, ironing etc as you will have worked all day so he can share the load evenly.

The problem is he is feeling the stress of financially juggling and keeping you afloat, that's too much for one person who doesn't want it. So I feel for him with that, but dictating when you work won't help.

Have you sat down together and worked out how much more money needs to come into the home?
Have you shown how much can be brought in by tutoring vs part time teaching ?
Does he get involved with your DDs preschool and how she is actually coping (or not as the case is).

Having a child that simply can't cope with full time preschool is hard, especially when your DH can't see that.
What strategies does he suggest if she goes full time preschool and can't cope, how does he plan to emotionally support her so she doesn't have a absolutely horid year?

Kanaloa · 08/12/2022 20:24

holidaysGalore · 08/12/2022 20:09

How severe is the adhd? If a standard nursery will have her and she'll probably soon be medicated, I'd chill out. 1/6 kids have adhd or autism and most parents work FT

I work FT forever and have 3 kids (not just 1!) and 1 has ADHD. You get on with it.

Go back teaching as supply 3 days and just extend the nursery.

I know so many men who've had affairs or left lazy women that won't work. Don't leave him seething as I don't know any men that's put up with this! Life is expensive SAHM only exist in the 1990s, farms or poor parts of the U.K.

You've enjoyed 4 years, apply for jobs while sorting the diagnosis and medication. It's no big deal.

Just get your kid on meds ASAP and work full time while sorting all medical issues and diagnosis and school support and doing all housework and childcare so your husband doesn’t cheat on you. It’s no big deal. He needs to be able to work his 9-5 then relax and have no home responsibilities while you work whatever hours he wants you to and do everything else on top.

Tellmewhenthegoodstuffstarts · 08/12/2022 20:25

@sheepdogdelight No, happy to work in the week if I can do it in the hours Dd at pre school, most definitely

OP posts:
Confusion101 · 08/12/2022 20:26

Tellmewhenthegoodstuffstarts · 08/12/2022 20:25

@sheepdogdelight No, happy to work in the week if I can do it in the hours Dd at pre school, most definitely

What job do u have in your head that is 9.30 - 11.30 a few days a weeks!?