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MILs Christmas list is too much!

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MyNDfamily · 04/12/2022 18:17

My MIL has quite a different approach to myself and my own family to Christmas and Birthdays. For example on my birthday this year she insisted on driving in ver with a card and gift for me on my actual birthday, even though we were due to see her in a couple of days. To her it's important that the gift is given that day.

The reason I am posting is Christmas is getting too much. Every year she sends out her own Christmas lift, (usually there will be some quite expensive items that she would like) Then everyone else, myself, DH, BIL, SIL ect are expected to send a list back, to the family. People then select items from the lists of to be buy for each other. The problem is as the family's are growing, getting married, having DCs the amount of people to buy for is huge. I also don't expect anything and would never as an adult be send my own mother such a list. My Mum might ask me if there is something id like. I'd drop a few ideas and leave it at that. The lists are now so specific too, like some of MILs items had serial numbers included.

To me this defeats the object of giving a gift. I was told to be grateful for what I was given as a child. I actually enjoy looking for things for the DC, my parents, DH ect. I like to notice things and try to get something that fits in with them.

MIL is very middle class and I wonder if that plays a role in it. She has all of DFILs none to to spend where as the rest of us don't.

DH thinks it's normal but it's irritating me, we agreed not to get each other presents this year and the DCs are getting 5 gifts each. We don't want to over spend and it's all the plastic waste that we find depressing too. So this is how we would rather do Christmas.

AIBU to want to opt out of the lists? Do other families do this too?

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thecatsthecats · 04/12/2022 20:08

My MIL is exactly like this.

I find it extremely awkward, because I just don't like asking for such expensive things! I've been informed by my husband that I didn't send enough items this year and need to come up with more!

I feel very mercenary picking out things to be bought, but I just have to suck it up as that's what she likes.

AnnaMagnani · 04/12/2022 20:08

Lists are fine, it's the adding more and more people, plus the assumption that everyone has the same budget as you.

We used to get lists from the ILs, then there was the year that every item on one group's list was rather more than we had intended to spend.

We just sent tenners for the children and the following year thank god the lists were not sent out again.

stuntbubbles · 04/12/2022 20:10

GnomeDePlume · 04/12/2022 19:39

My DF had a brilliant suggestion on how to deal with gifts for adults.

Set a budget. Everyone then goes out and buys what they want at that budget. They take it home, wrap it. On Christmas morning they can then open it and say 'thank you everyone, it's exactly what I want'.

No one has spent too much or too little. Everyone has got what they want.

Haha, we did this once by accident when my mother organised Secret Santa, fucked up almightily and gave everyone their own name. And obviously it being a secret everyone assumed they were the only one to have had it happen, so kept schtum. It became clear pretty quickly on the day as everyone’s acting was so terrible, and the presents were so perfectly what people wanted. Everyone thrilled: except my aunt who was absolutely spitting feathers because the concept had been RUINED and it wasn’t in the Christmas SPIRIT. Still one of my favourite christmases ever.

sammyjoanne · 04/12/2022 20:14

I cant understand the lists. Its not a wedding gift list, its Christmas thats done every year. And I think its even worse its now got to the serial numbers stage. your MIL is being unreasonable. A gift for Christmas should be personal to the person with some thought put into it, not from a gift list.

Addicted2Sugar · 04/12/2022 20:15

It is cheeky to be so specific in her requests but there is another part of me that thinks fair play to her thinking I don't want some shite that I don't want. However if it is too expensive you just have to say it.

At one point in our family we stopped doing adults however those adults that are buying for kids with no kids of their own receiving still for gifts, grandparents, great aunts etc...

We do give suggestions for kids though.

Oneofthosewsillydays · 04/12/2022 20:16

'I honestly can’t see the point of acting as a personal shopper for grown arse adults. My FIL would write a list and I find it bizarre, he’s rich and nearly 80.'

Exactly this, why don't they just buy it themselves? It isn't what gift giving is about

woodhill · 04/12/2022 20:19

WineCap · 04/12/2022 20:03

Oh, and I like giving and opening gifts on Christmas like a lot of people, so that is why we still exchange gifts rather than not bothering at all. I'm often excited to recieve things that I know I'll love but may not have treated myself to.

Yes dm has asked for nice gloves but wouldn't buy them for herself and she is well off

Hardbackwriter · 04/12/2022 20:27

Oneofthosewsillydays · 04/12/2022 20:16

'I honestly can’t see the point of acting as a personal shopper for grown arse adults. My FIL would write a list and I find it bizarre, he’s rich and nearly 80.'

Exactly this, why don't they just buy it themselves? It isn't what gift giving is about

A lot of people can't quite bring themselves to buy 'frivolous' items for themselves, but will happily exchange them as gifts.

People seem to be being particularly scathing about older people doing this but I can see exactly why they do. If they don't specify they're particularly likely to get generic 'old man/lady' presents, which I can imagine finding really depressing.

GnomeDePlume · 04/12/2022 20:29

stuntbubbles · 04/12/2022 20:10

Haha, we did this once by accident when my mother organised Secret Santa, fucked up almightily and gave everyone their own name. And obviously it being a secret everyone assumed they were the only one to have had it happen, so kept schtum. It became clear pretty quickly on the day as everyone’s acting was so terrible, and the presents were so perfectly what people wanted. Everyone thrilled: except my aunt who was absolutely spitting feathers because the concept had been RUINED and it wasn’t in the Christmas SPIRIT. Still one of my favourite christmases ever.

That is such a shame your aunt couldn't get into it. A whole new tradition could have started.

BarbaraofSeville · 04/12/2022 20:30

GnomeDePlume · 04/12/2022 19:39

My DF had a brilliant suggestion on how to deal with gifts for adults.

Set a budget. Everyone then goes out and buys what they want at that budget. They take it home, wrap it. On Christmas morning they can then open it and say 'thank you everyone, it's exactly what I want'.

No one has spent too much or too little. Everyone has got what they want.

Yes, I suggested this on here a few years ago. Exactly the same result as the ridiculous lists charades with none of the budget disagreements because everyone gets a gift worth the same as what they spent, and everyone benefits from their own efforts, so if anyone doesn't get anything, they only have themselves to blame.

You still get to talk about it and show it off to everyone. The only difference is that you don't get someone who's spent £££s on gifts for everyone else and received a Boots 3 for 2 toiletry set and a chocolate orange in return.

woodhill · 04/12/2022 20:30

Yes I'm a bit sceptical about my works secret Santa but we shall see

ChiefWiggumsBoy · 04/12/2022 20:31

We are a list family - I like to buy something that the recipient really wants rather than a vague idea of what I think they want.

We do Secret Santa though now - so max £50 spend per person rather than a tenner for everyone.

FancyFelix · 04/12/2022 20:31

Hello OP, I think you may be me!

And definitely YANBU

BarbaraofSeville · 04/12/2022 20:33

Hardbackwriter · 04/12/2022 20:27

A lot of people can't quite bring themselves to buy 'frivolous' items for themselves, but will happily exchange them as gifts.

People seem to be being particularly scathing about older people doing this but I can see exactly why they do. If they don't specify they're particularly likely to get generic 'old man/lady' presents, which I can imagine finding really depressing.

Well that's their look out and I don't see why they have to drag other people into their nonsense. If you want something and can afford it, just buy it FFS. Don't try to get someone else involved with ridiculous 'you buy me X and I'll buy you Y' games.

whatsagoodusername · 04/12/2022 20:34

My mother is not dissimilar.

Write a list. She'll still buy you something. At least if she has a list, it will be something you like and want.

Every year, DM says we will do a smaller Christmas. It's never happened 🤷🏻‍♀️

Cas112 · 04/12/2022 20:35

Just tell her you are not doing that part of Christmas this year due to cost of living. You may buy a few small bits if you come across something you think someone will like but you won't be doing a post

Cas112 · 04/12/2022 20:35

Cas112 · 04/12/2022 20:35

Just tell her you are not doing that part of Christmas this year due to cost of living. You may buy a few small bits if you come across something you think someone will like but you won't be doing a post

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Oneofthosewsillydays · 04/12/2022 20:37

'A lot of people can't quite bring themselves to buy 'frivolous' items for themselves, but will happily exchange them as gifts.'

'People seem to be being particularly scathing about older people doing this but I can see exactly why they do. If they don't specify they're particularly likely to get generic 'old man/lady' presents, which I can imagine finding really depressing.'

I don't agree this is for everyone though. A relative who was notorious for lists and being an unappreciative ahole, thought nothing of buying the latest gadgets for himself. He wasn't given 'old' stereotypical gifts either, he was simply a control freak. Even when somebody would buy an item from his childish list, he would sulk as it wasn't one of the most expensive items or two of the cheaper ones! He would require the latter as well as a surprise, as well as sweets (if he hated the surprise item or had too many sweets (despite buying his favourites) he would huffily give us them back. This was during a time when we were strapped for cash, living in a rubbish flat in deadend jobs, and he sat there in his nice house bragging about his latest apple watch etc. I hate lists for adults, wont indulge them.

MyNDfamily · 04/12/2022 20:38

Not really sure, just trying to explain.

I don't really know how to describe her. She is quite materialistic, competes with neighbours likes to have nice things. She speaks properly, insists on manners. Quite prim and proper compared to me. She's middle class for sure, but acts like an upper class lady at times.

DFIL has done very well for himself, huge house, nice cars, second property as holiday home. Things my family don't have.

My family are working class. She's just quite different and seems very posh to my own mother. She's nice enough though and The Mums get on.

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UsingChangeofName · 04/12/2022 20:39

That's not a middle class thing, it's a grabby thing.

It really isn't. If you read the thread, you will see probably half the comments explain why it makes sense for people to write a wish list of things they would like if someone is buying them a present.

I agree with @WineCap @woodhill and @Hardbackwriter
It is nice to open things on Christmas morning, and it is nice to have 'treats' that you feel are a bit extravagant to buy for yourself

stuntbubbles · 04/12/2022 20:39

GnomeDePlume · 04/12/2022 20:29

That is such a shame your aunt couldn't get into it. A whole new tradition could have started.

Tbh her apoplectic rage added to the entertainment value, the Christmas gift I never knew I wanted Grin

justasking111 · 04/12/2022 20:41

Blip · 04/12/2022 18:32

Our family swap wish lists. It saves getting presents that you don't want so I really like it.

We do this but it is a wish list. We have to let each other know what we are getting

2winterkids · 04/12/2022 20:43

We do Secret Santa amongst the adults (£50 each) and everyone buys for all the kids.

I'd hate to be presented with a list, complete with prices and reference numbers!! It seems so materialistic and reminds me of going through the Argos catalogue with a pen when I was 6.

RosesAndHellebores · 04/12/2022 20:55

DS and DIL want a decent TV - not mega but not their laptops either.

DD wants an i-watch; her bf wants some specific sheet music - no problem.

I have a list on the fridge:

Knife sharpener
L'Occitane body wash Verbena
Hypnose Doll Eyes Mascara
New headphones (the ones for a tenner)

DH

Davidoff Cool Water
Secateurs
Slippers
Gardening gloves

I'd be really quite upset if the dc were to take offence.

Moonatics · 04/12/2022 20:57

thecatsthecats · 04/12/2022 20:08

My MIL is exactly like this.

I find it extremely awkward, because I just don't like asking for such expensive things! I've been informed by my husband that I didn't send enough items this year and need to come up with more!

I feel very mercenary picking out things to be bought, but I just have to suck it up as that's what she likes.

I felt quite mercenary too, I got around it by saying heres a list of my charities (3 at most) either give the money you would have spent on me to one of them or your fave charity.

I'm in my 50s, I have everything I want and need, and frankly the stuff I want these days costs more than even a £50 secret Santa. I dont expect anyone to buy me these things.

I did try the list thing, but I felt terrible in case the £12 bangle would skint someone.