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Cocaine - is this weird?

283 replies

Creamofthecrop12 · 02/12/2022 19:55

I'll start this with I'm a drugs virgin, don't take them and never have done.
But I do know people who have in their 20s typically and then stopped as they hit 30ish, children or not. They weren't prolific users: weekends only.
I've become friendly with a group of long-term friends (early 40s/late 40s) who seemingly have it all.
They're friendly, good, well-paid jobs, lovely children, nice homes etc. The kids seem well-cared for.
But - f* me - they LOVE drugs. And in a way I'm really uncomfortable with but if I raise will almost certainly see me ousted from the group (I know this happened to a person before me).
There's been multiple occasions on a weekly basis where the children (toddlers and newborns) are kept in the care of both parents at 'family-style' events in the early evening and mum and dad are both doing lines.
Or they are kept up very late while both parents are high.
They also take other class A drugs (not heroin) regularly and the dads will do coke 2/3 times a week - even in the days/weeks after the baby was born.
I think this is odd but I value their friendship.
I guess I'm looking for an objective point of view that this behaviour isn't the norm.
Thanks.

OP posts:
userxx · 02/12/2022 23:29

@GonnaGetGoingReturns I miss those days! Definitely the best ones.

BabyFour2023 · 02/12/2022 23:29

@FuckMyLife2022 I’m so sorry you had to go through that.

Tessabelle74 · 02/12/2022 23:32

I couldn't be friends with these people. The kids are NOT well looked after and if these people lived on a council estate I don't very much you'd say they were. Being high around your kids isn't acceptable just because you have money

JamSandle · 02/12/2022 23:34

I have a few friends (ish) who do this too. I'm still shocked they do it. They're lovely, interesting and hard working but they recreationally use class A Drugs and are parents. I really don't get it either.

EverythingWobbles · 02/12/2022 23:35

I recently reconnected with an old friend who is doing really well for herself, amazing job, beautiful big house, all the trappings....yet the same as your friends her and her husband seem to do Coke on the regular. Maybe it's a thing. I've no clue. It's not the life or friends I want though so will be unconnecting!!

Catwoman300 · 02/12/2022 23:36

The person who got ousted should feel fortunate to have been ousted. If I were you I would distance myself from these 'friends' . You will always be the least of their priorities when compared to drugs. I also believe that should anything happen one of those children because of their parents antics then I think the guilt you didn't do or say anything would be horrific.

Steer clear you being their friend wont play out well, youll be tained by associatio.. Picture them less well dressed, lying on the street, dirty unkempt and addled with drugs, you wouldn't want to be their friend then I'm sure, and would take an even dimmer view of their behaviour if their child was lying on the street beside them.

Run.

OhChristmasTreeOhChristmasTreeFaLaLa · 02/12/2022 23:37

Not normal, I've never mixed in circles like this and wouldn't want to. It's very unfair on those children to be around people doing this.

Whateverusername · 02/12/2022 23:45

@Coralpop Do any still smoke weed? Is it just drinking alcohol?

pinheadlarry · 02/12/2022 23:54

So youre not going to call social services? How do you know that their children are well looked after?
You dont see them 24/7and a high person is never a good parent

yoyy · 03/12/2022 00:08

Do these people ever stop to think how their drugs got here, and the misery of the folk involved in this despicable trade?

Course they did, there are people on the thread saying it's ok to do it but away from the dc! 🙄

Peedoffo · 03/12/2022 00:10

No it doesn't sound typical to me. If they were WC SS would be involved but because it's MC I doubt anything will happen.

yoyy · 03/12/2022 00:11

I would say my eyes were opened as an adult to the acceptance, relaxed attitude to drugs amongst the mc.

BigCheeseSandwich · 03/12/2022 00:12

"I know several vegan leftie types who bleat on about all social causese etc...but do coke every weekend."

I know these people, too. Talk earnestly about baby wearing and disparagingly about parents who drive their kids to school while taking ketamine with their kids in the next room.

Peedoffo · 03/12/2022 00:14

I did coke once and it had zero effect on me. I just felt a bit more awake, my friend was gurning her face off. I was later diagnosed with narcolepsy 🤣🤣🤣 there's absolutely no point me having coke.

Amybelle88 · 03/12/2022 00:19

Have done drugs in the past when I was young and probably a bit stupid truth be told, at festivals etc. but I'm a mother now and I think this is absolutely fucking abhorrent behaviour.

Desdem · 03/12/2022 00:22

BigCheeseSandwich · 03/12/2022 00:12

"I know several vegan leftie types who bleat on about all social causese etc...but do coke every weekend."

I know these people, too. Talk earnestly about baby wearing and disparagingly about parents who drive their kids to school while taking ketamine with their kids in the next room.

Same. If I threw a shoe, I'd hit about a dozen vegan leftie socially aware fuckers mithering on about baby wearing while simultaneously mainlining ketamine and absolutely RINSING car-driving parents, with all of their kale-smeared offspring in the very next room, 24/7.

It's why I don't throw shoes tbh.

aquashiv · 03/12/2022 00:26

Normalising this isn't healthy at all.

Cocaine turns people into borish twats. Costs a fortune and you're not fit to be in charge of kids.

I'd find new friends.

maisydaisy20 · 03/12/2022 00:54

I think you want to be in with the in-crowd. Unfortunately (fortunately) you're much more aware so it will never be a good fit.

Mamanyt · 03/12/2022 00:55

The only unreasonable thing here is your valuing of people who think it's perfectly fine to do a line of coke while taking care of their children. I know a LOT of people do it, but until you've dealt with an unresponsive toddler who got into Mummy's or Daddy's stash, you don't really get it.

I worked in Respiratory Therapy in ER (your A & E, I believe) for many years, and watched very young children die on more than one occasion. No, I would not value those friendships.

Sirius3030 · 03/12/2022 01:26

DontSpeakLatinInFrontOfTheBooks · 02/12/2022 20:06

Seeing as drugs are so important to them and you don’t partake, what is it about their friendship that you value? Not meaning to sound arsey, genuine question. Isn’t it boring for you, watching these people carry on like this? Not to mention the ethical side of things: using cocaine and what it entails for the people who are the part of the chain to supply them with it and what sounds like neglecting their young children.

I’d be giving that lot a swerve personally.

This. I hate people who use cocaine as they are individually responsible for much misery in the world. I would report them to the police.
I have used drugs in my past, including cocaine briefly, and I am ashamed.

TheOriginalEmu · 03/12/2022 01:31

My stepfathers group of friends were like this in their 40s. They’re now approaching 60 and half of them are dead. That’s not melodrama. Of his group of 9 close friends 5 are dead. 1 of cancer admittedly, but 4 of them died of strokes/heart attacks. It’s not a coincidence and it’s broken my sisters heart to have no parents left at 25 (our mother was older and had leukemia, her dad was only 55) and most of her ‘uncles and aunties’.

it’s a mugs game

onemorerose · 03/12/2022 01:37

Jesus, I felt a bit guilty when i smoked a cigarette this evening

DuckWalkedUpToALemonadeStand · 03/12/2022 01:39

Whityedain · 02/12/2022 20:58

Not just their children but many more children are hurt when you buy and use cocaine.
I live rurally in a very beautiful village and we now have county lines issues. Main customers being middle class white folk.
I've used it myself and on two occasions on my nights off from my children in 7 years (I didn't have to look after them the following day either) I agree that it's a shitty thing to do and the guilt afterwards far outweighed the fun at the time.

I consider myself a pretty crap parent at times but I draw the line completely at doing drugs whilst looking after them. Saying that, I don't even drink when I'm with them in case I have to drive somewhere in an emergency.

I also think being hammered is also totally irresponsible.

What does 'county lines issues' mean?

Whityedain · 03/12/2022 01:41

DuckWalkedUpToALemonadeStand · 03/12/2022 01:39

What does 'county lines issues' mean?

County Lines is where illegal drugs are transported from one area to another, often across police and local authority boundaries (although not exclusively), usually by children or vulnerable people who are coerced into it by gangs. The 'County Line' is the mobile phone line used to take the orders of drugs.

DuckWalkedUpToALemonadeStand · 03/12/2022 01:47

Whityedain · 03/12/2022 01:41

County Lines is where illegal drugs are transported from one area to another, often across police and local authority boundaries (although not exclusively), usually by children or vulnerable people who are coerced into it by gangs. The 'County Line' is the mobile phone line used to take the orders of drugs.

Thank you. Just googled it as I'd gone on to see it mentioned a few other times here, never heard of it!