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Strange behaviour from a teacher

170 replies

Spoonfullofconfusion · 30/11/2022 23:30

Ok, this happened a couple of weeks ago but I’m still annoyed. My daughter got in trouble at school for using her phone and recorded something that went on in her class. No faces shown, no names mentioned. Had a phone call from school to tell us they were aware of this recording and she had been put in internal exclusion. School always ring me first before dad but luckily dad was able to hear the conversation after I placed the call on loud speaker. Bit of back story my daughter has be having trouble with some girls and at time’s been ganged up on, we thought this was the reason he was ringing us. I’m aware my child is no angel all the time but these girls have a history so I do believe my daughter when she tells me things plus I have a way of getting the truth from her eventually. We have worked with teachers when there has been problems, either with homework or bullying and have always had adult and productive conversations with other teachers and have worked towards sorting out any problems that have arisen in the past.
Anyway my aibu is more about the teacher that rang regarding the recording and his actions and behaviour to us and everyone involved and would also like to know how others would have reacted? So obviously been told my daughter has been put in internal exclusion was a shock but when I asked questions about what had gone on he seemed to not want to tell me anything other than I should know the policy on mobile phones and it’s in my daughters planner. (Planner says a detention for mobile phone use on school premises) I asked why a child would feel the need to record an event? No answer! He then went on to say that there had been a complaint about the recording to which I asked if it was the childs mother who the recording had picked up?. He told me he couldn’t say and I need to ask her myself as he couldn’t say under gdpr rules but he could have said she wasn’t the one that complained. The mum is a friend of mine so at this point I was angry to think she didn’t ring me and say she had a problem also at this point I thought she had been unfair after knowing our daughters have a love hate relationship and we’ve always in the past dealt with them together as they get on in small doses but fall out easily. Neither of our daughters is perfect in their behaviour but they are far from being delinquents. After days of stewing over everything and hearing what my daughter had told me. What she did tell me sounded like the teacher had interrogated her to make her say something that hadn’t happened and was trying to put words in her mouth. I decided I would just text the other mum and sort everything out. After a long conversation it turns out she hadn’t complained and even knew about the recording before the school mentioned it and hadn’t cared or thought anything else about it(my daughter let her hear the recording as it had her daughter on) turned out the school had rung her and this teacher asked if she knew her daughter had been recorded without her knowledge to which she said she knew and didn’t care and was then to be told she may get some backlash from this (I assume he meant from us?) After speaking and getting most of the answers from the mum that we couldn’t get out of the teacher as he refused to speak to me or answer any of my questions and spoke over everything I said while he interrogated us! He asked if I had asked my daughter to make the recording and then asked (interrogated)my daughter if the other parent had asked her to make the recording as the other parent had issues with the teacher who was also in the recording, he hadn’t asked the other parent if she had asked her to do this. The school hasn’t heard the recording and only myself, partner, other parent and obviously my child has heard this recording so they have no clue what’s in it. It also hasn’t been shared on social media which the teacher said it had. I did ask why they find the mobile phone policy so serious but they haven’t taken the same approach to their bullying policy which ended up with a teacher threatening my daughter with detention everyday if her father doesn’t sign their policy. I’m lead to believe the school was sued back to the stone ages when a recording had been made about 4 years ago. If this is true they have covered it up very well. After been ignored and unable to make an appointment with the headmaster we finally got one on day four (their policy states 24hours) after the original phone call from the teacher to be told no complaint had even been made. He made a comment saying he thought we were just another ‘shouty parent’. Turns out said teacher who made the original phone call has had many complaints against him from parents which have been ignored, I’m told he is friends with the head teacher who is also one of the governors and deals with the complaints which makes me wonder if he’s not acting on them and also is this not a conflict of interest? I’ve also been told by many people the teacher has a dislike for women and called women stupid to their face but changes his tone when the husbands turn up and talks over women when they speak, this is what I had to deal with. We have also made it clear and also put it in writing that he is not to be alone with my daughter and the first thing he did was take my daughter into a room alone! 2nd time he did this my daughter asked for another teacher to be present which he obliged. I’m actually worried that this teacher is trusted to be in charge of children when I & my partner have had great difficulty dealing with him ourselves and witnessed how he has handled what he says is a serious situation and implied people have complained who actually haven’t. We have asked for the governor’s details to complain to as this is not given on their website and have yet to receive these details. Our complaint isn’t about our daughter being punished and support the school if our daughter is being disruptive or doing something she shouldn’t but more how this teacher has behaved and we find it worrying how he’s gone about this situation and if we hadn’t have been in contact with the other parent how this could have panned out. If this is how he deals with parents what does he do around children. He had us thinking another parent had complained (told us a complaint had been made) when they hadn’t. I’ve wrote all this on my phone so hope it all makes sense.

OP posts:
Spoonfullofconfusion · 01/12/2022 07:32

It was confirmed no complaint was ever made.
the teacher made it up.

OP posts:
Spoonfullofconfusion · 01/12/2022 07:32

It was confirmed no complaint was ever made.
the teacher made it up.

OP posts:
TeenDivided · 01/12/2022 07:35

Spoonfullofconfusion · 01/12/2022 07:32

It was confirmed no complaint was ever made.
the teacher made it up.

Who cares?
Your daughter was recording in class.
This was noticed.
She had the consequence.

spanieleyes · 01/12/2022 07:36

Confirmed by who?

MILLYmo0se · 01/12/2022 07:36

Spoonfullofconfusion · 01/12/2022 00:38

This is true she could have lied.
But turns out no complaint was made.
i will go with I’m over thinking things.

Why does a complaint have to be made? Once the school/a teacher is aware of the recording however they became aware of it (a parent making a complaint, a parent or child making them aware of it and this could have been any parent or child) they need to act on it.
This issues with the teacher need to be formally lodged with the school if you are proof as opposed to bitchy gossip that he has entered toilets or made racist comments, thet have absolutely nothing to do with your child making a recording or how it was dealt with.

NeverDropYourMooncup · 01/12/2022 07:39

Spoonfullofconfusion · 01/12/2022 07:32

It was confirmed no complaint was ever made.
the teacher made it up.

No, you assumed that your friend had complained and denied it.

That doesn't mean nobody complained.

Tell your child to behave herself and remember that you are not 14 anymore - making up stories about male teachers when you're a grown woman is a serious matter.

And like fuck was that recording not going to be edited/manipulated and made into a tiktok with the staff member identified along with the school.

RhubarbStrawberry · 01/12/2022 07:42

AnxiousStepparent · 01/12/2022 05:51

Apologies if I missed it but why can't the teacher be in a room alone with your daughter?

OP's daughter got caught misbehaving so op is trying to insinuate he's not safe to be alone with a child as revenge.

ApathyMartha · 01/12/2022 07:45

If you feel so many should leave the profession then it sounds like your daughter would be better at home being taught by you.

MichelleScarn · 01/12/2022 07:45

Jadedbuthappy82 · 01/12/2022 00:29

🤦🏼😆

Wonder if this is a factor in this complaint?....

Sued for what exactly!

MichelleScarn · 01/12/2022 07:46

spanieleyes · 01/12/2022 07:36

Confirmed by who?

Her mate and her mates mum so rock solid of course...🤔

CinnamonJellyBeans · 01/12/2022 07:46

You lost as soon as you said: "My daughter's no angel".

HipTightOnions · 01/12/2022 07:53

The school hasn’t heard the recording and only myself, partner, other parent and obviously my child has heard this recording so they have no clue what’s in it.

So how do they know about it if nobody complained?

ShandaLear · 01/12/2022 07:54

Your daughter got caught breaking the rules, was disciplined, and you were informed. Why all the drama?

TrashyPanda · 01/12/2022 07:54

entering toilet cubicles

a male teacher enters female toilet cubicles?

how?

don’t they have locks?

Thatsasmashingblouseyouvegoton · 01/12/2022 07:59

"It's the drama, Mick, I just love it!"

🙄

Your dd broke school rules and was punished according to the school behaviour policy.

monicagellerbing · 01/12/2022 08:02

TLDR

Palmtree9 · 01/12/2022 08:07

Sounds like you have it in for this teacher, if I'm being honest.

Your daughter had her phone out. She recorded other students with other students without permission. School rules are no phones in lessons.

Support the staff teaching your child. Teach your child she cannot go round recording people without permission. If nothing else, there could be children in that class who aren't to be on any recordings (face or voice) for safeguarding reasons.

Jellycatspyjamas · 01/12/2022 08:08

You assumed your daughter was caught because someone complained, and then assumed it was your friend who complained and then created a drama around that.

Recording in schools is a problem for many reasons, she did it and was disciplined for it. As parents you should support the schools phone policy not be creating more stress by not signing it.

It seems you’re more interested in blaming everyone else and generating gossip than actually dealing with your “no angel” daughter.

sweatyannie · 01/12/2022 08:15

Hope you're daughter stays in school long enough to be taught how to use paragraphs so it can catch on at home !

HoppingPavlova · 01/12/2022 08:17

Your DD did the wrong thing by using her phone and filming in class. They were going to be punished for this and you were alerted to the fact they had done the wrong thing and were being punished.

Instead of being mortified by your child’s outlandish behaviour, breaking of the rules and potentially putting other vulnerable children at risk (the main reason they prohibit filming), you have gone off on several tangents. Something about another child’s behaviour (not related), bullying (not related), the teacher telling you there was a complaint (?? If there was not, there should have been as all other parents should have been outraged and upset by your daughter filming their children in class with the intent of doing god knows what with it).

You have concentrated on the wrong thing here.

The end.

AngelicPickles · 01/12/2022 08:21

People like you disgust me. So many good teachers leaving because you can't be bothered to parent your child.
Clearly your writing and outlook is poor, no doubt due to the disdain you showed teachers in your own schooldays. Perhaps if you focused more or your daughter's education she won't turn into a loser out to get educated people there to help her achieve her best.
Vile behaviour from both you and your daughter op, take a bloody look at yourself. At least your daughter has hormones and being a child as an excuse.

CrapBag39 · 01/12/2022 08:23

Now I have a headache.

Redlocks30 · 01/12/2022 08:28

Your dd shouldn’t have her phone out or be filming in class. End of

This. Your post is full of hearsay and time wasting. Tell your daughter to follow the rules and stop wasting everyone’s time. If you can’t do that, homeschool.

IDidNotSignUpForThis · 01/12/2022 08:34

I am a teacher. This post sums up everything that is making me question whether I want to continue. Your daughter is in serious breach of school rules. There is absolutely no dispute about that. Your reaction seems akin to an angry monkey flinging shit around its cage. You are trying to ruin the reputation and career of the male teacher why exactly…? Too much of this goes on. Why anyone would contemplate entering the profession these days is beyond me.

Itsabitnotcold · 01/12/2022 08:45

That was an impossible to read brick of text!

I get the gist that a teacher was saying something to children inappropriate and your child recorded him? So the teacher rang you and pretended a parent had complained to try to get the recording deleted? And punished your daughter over the odds for having done it.

If a teacher is behaving inappropriately then students should have the right to record it and show adults. We had a vile pervy teacher finally have to be sacked after a student recorded his letching remarks and sending it round everywhere.

The whole "teachers are right, students are wrong. Do as your told" attitude puts children in vulnerable situations where they don't feel able to protect themselves.

But then you've kind of just behaved like a teenager instead of focusing on the important bits and taking control.

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