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To expect DH to help me whilst the World Cup is on

227 replies

Sheilazwheelz · 29/11/2022 20:49

I mean with the kids? Should I expect him to help me put the kids to bed whilst the footie is on? He seems to think he is exempt now.

OP posts:
Pictograph · 30/11/2022 07:33

It's nice to let him watch the football, maybe do a swap and ask him to give you a "night off" another time.

girlmom21 · 30/11/2022 07:34

toomuchlaundry · 30/11/2022 07:31

I hate the assumption that it is fine for the world to stop for men so they can watch the football whilst their partner picks up all the pieces of family life. What if the OP wants to watch the football? Does she have to rush round doing everything whilst catching snippets of the matches?

Your username is a bit ironic Grin

We both manage to watch the football without the house falling down.

LongLostTeacher · 30/11/2022 07:35

A lot of people seem to have missed the fact that it isn’t just for his team’s matches, it’s every match.

To compare it to a DH doing bedtime while they go out for dinner or yoga, that comparison only works if you’re going out almost every evening for a month straight.

He’s taking the piss OP.

EverythingsRosey · 30/11/2022 07:35

toomuchlaundry · 30/11/2022 07:31

I hate the assumption that it is fine for the world to stop for men so they can watch the football whilst their partner picks up all the pieces of family life. What if the OP wants to watch the football? Does she have to rush round doing everything whilst catching snippets of the matches?

Well I'm female, I follow my teams games, my kids are 7 & 9 and watch games with me now... If they were too young to stay up I would put them to bed prior or during half time. As she doesn't like football and he does then yes I'd expect her to suck it up.

Relationships are give and take, OP sounds like she needs to get better at communicating & that she's bitter her husband has a passion.

toomuchlaundry · 30/11/2022 07:43

@EverythingsRosey has the OP says she doesn’t like football. Why does she have to get better at communicating? Why didn’t DH talk about watching the football and how that would fit round family life? In your words she should suck it up ie the assumption that the world stood still for DH so he can watch football

PurpleParrotfish · 30/11/2022 07:46

It’s a shame OP didn’t clarify originally that it was all matches he’s expecting to opt out for, not just England games. Since a lot of people, especially on the first couple of pages, haven’t RTFT and are assuming it’s just England matches.

Also it’s missing the point to say that both parents don’t need to be there for every bedtime and there should be give and take for hobbies. Because that implies fairness and discussion.

OP’s husband clearly just assumes that his ‘helping’ is optional and he doesn’t need to ask nicely whether it’s ok for him to opt out for the whole World Cup. Because OP, as she says, always makes sure she is available. And our society too often just assumes women pick up the childcare and housework by default.

WhatsErFace2020 · 30/11/2022 07:48

@Sheilazwheelz For me think it’s the ‘unfairness’ of it, any football/golf etc in this house my DH expects to be able to get out of parenting/cooking/life and I should accept it because it’s only this game/this tournament without seeing the bigger picture that’s actually it’s quite often and because I don’t expect the same free passes for anything he’s never left to run everything for weeks at a time.

I expect the reason it gets to those of us on this thread so much is that it’s indicative of the unfair labour distribution in our homes. It’s something I am working on but there’s always an excuse, it just so happens that excuse is the World Cup at the moment….

PorridgewithQuark · 30/11/2022 07:55

EverythingsRosey · 30/11/2022 07:35

Well I'm female, I follow my teams games, my kids are 7 & 9 and watch games with me now... If they were too young to stay up I would put them to bed prior or during half time. As she doesn't like football and he does then yes I'd expect her to suck it up.

Relationships are give and take, OP sounds like she needs to get better at communicating & that she's bitter her husband has a passion.

"Op needs to get better at communicating that she's bitter that her husband has a passion" 🤨

Yes, that's the obvious solution here 🤣 not that the father needs to parent -up and wake up to the fact that he doesn't "help" with his own offspring - he takes 50% responsibility and discusses how to do things fairly/ give his wife equivalent number of nights while off if he has a lot of nights he wants to skip putting his children to bed.

GreenManalishi · 30/11/2022 08:03

@Pictograph

ask him to give you a "night off" another time.

This illustrates the issue really well.

He's not her boss covering her shifts as a favour while she books her annual leave.

If both partners are contributing equally and shouldering their half of the load, the odd football match wouldn't be an issue.

parlourb · 30/11/2022 08:04

Lastqueenofscotland2 · 29/11/2022 21:20

I hate the cool wives brigade. I was called one for not minding my long term DP is still friends with a woman he met in school.
It’s once every four years. England will be out soon enough, I couldn’t get riled about this as long as when you have something on he does everything so you can enjoy it

Op said it's every match , not just the England games

Alondra · 30/11/2022 08:06

I think for people (mostly men but also many women as well) the World Cup is a special event and are glued to the TV following their Country games.

Personally, if my DH gives his share of work with the kids when the World Cup is not on, I wouldn't give it a thought. Another issue is if he's on his tablet/TV watching every game for 3 weeks while I'm stressed out of my brain trying to manage work, kids, house and everything else.

My DH loves football and I did my healthy share of coping with the kids when the World Cup or Champion League were on. But I only needed to tell him, I need you to make dinner/give baths if the struggle of the working day was too much for him to forget football.

Legallypinkish · 30/11/2022 08:09

uhOhOP · 30/11/2022 07:32

Football World Cup tournaments are more frequently than that. I thought we'd now reached a point where we all know that women are football players, too, with their own major tournaments to compete in. I don't like that when we say "the football" or "the World Cup" we still mean "the men's...".

Oh ffs it’s pretty clear the OP is talking about this World Cup that is going on at the moment. So it’s not really a big deal is it. She hasn’t said she wants to watch it so I can’t see a problem.

Suffrajitsu · 30/11/2022 08:09

Make a deal with him: you'll do bedtimes for now, he will do an equivalent number when the footy isn't on.

Lndnmummy · 30/11/2022 08:13

You need to nip this helping business in the bud. He isn't helping YOU. If anything he is helping HIS children. That aside, its the world cup. My dh is mad about football. He doesn't drink, doesn't bring any ''lads" around. All he wants to do is to sit with some chocolate and watch his games. Its not a huge ask I don't think. It makes him happy. He is always there if there is something I want to do, go out with friends, work late etc.

Luredbyapomegranate · 30/11/2022 08:18

MolesOnPoles · 29/11/2022 20:52

Tonight wasDH’s turn to do bedtime, but I did it as the match is important to him. He’d do the same if something was important to me.

So unless your DH would refuse to manage the kids if you had something on (in which case you have bigger issues) YABU.

This - it’s not helping, it’s him doing his fair share. As long as he does that, fine to swap it about.

OoooohMatron · 30/11/2022 08:21

YABU. It's once every 4 years for a few weeks and it's only the 7pm matches that would affect him helping. If you are referring to the England game last night then you are VV unreasonable.

uhOhOP · 30/11/2022 08:22

Legallypinkish · 30/11/2022 08:09

Oh ffs it’s pretty clear the OP is talking about this World Cup that is going on at the moment. So it’s not really a big deal is it. She hasn’t said she wants to watch it so I can’t see a problem.

Yeah, I know what she's talking about. I was replying to you, wasn't I, to your comment that there is a (as in 1) football World Cup tournament every four years. There isn't. There are 2 or 3 football World Cup tournaments every four years. 👍

FrozenGhost · 30/11/2022 08:24

If he loves football then yes I would do it, and I know (in my relationship) he'd make it up later.

Relationships don't have to be chained together at all times.

I have 2 young dc and this year I went on a 2 week backpacking holiday by myself. My DH was happy for me to go and had no problem parenting solo for 2 weeks. I look forward to him doing the same.

Skinnermarink · 30/11/2022 08:24

OoooohMatron · 30/11/2022 08:21

YABU. It's once every 4 years for a few weeks and it's only the 7pm matches that would affect him helping. If you are referring to the England game last night then you are VV unreasonable.

Most football fans do not solely watch the WC and the WC only every four years, do they.

toomuchlaundry · 30/11/2022 08:28

@OoooohMatron and if OP wanted to watch the football?

OoooohMatron · 30/11/2022 08:29

Skinnermarink · 30/11/2022 08:24

Most football fans do not solely watch the WC and the WC only every four years, do they.

No but its fairly obvious OP is referring to the world cup.

girlmom21 · 30/11/2022 08:30

toomuchlaundry · 30/11/2022 08:28

@OoooohMatron and if OP wanted to watch the football?

Nobody is stopping the OP watching the football.

OoooohMatron · 30/11/2022 08:30

toomuchlaundry · 30/11/2022 08:28

@OoooohMatron and if OP wanted to watch the football?

She doesn't though so it's a non issue.

WaddleAway · 30/11/2022 08:32

PorridgewithQuark · 30/11/2022 07:20

If you have never discussed with him that you will be doing yoga on Thursday and just bugger off without checking he'll be home to do it, and if he never has nights of you putting the children to bed on your own, because he's the default parent and you only "help" if you happen to have nothing you want to watch on TV and nowhere you want to go, then yes.

We just share responsibilities equally. I do some bed times, he does others. Depends what we have on. Sounds like many parents don’t share responsibilities and that’s where issues arise. But that’s a far bigger marital problem than just watching the football.

Oysterbabe · 30/11/2022 08:32

While his team are playing then YABU if you have no interest in watching yourself. Every game? He can get in the bin.