Shamima Begum's mother

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I read an article about Shamima Begum's mother in the Daily Mail. I am very much in the camp that Shamima Begum should come back to the UK and be trialed here as her crimes.

Anyway, the mother says how close she was with Shamima and how she misses her etc.

If I were Shamima Begum's mum and my daughter was not allowed into the UK, I would travel to the refugee camp to be with her. Or, I would take my daughter to Bangladesh just to be with her and not leave her on her own.

I don't understand why Shamima Begum's mum takes no action to support her daughter!

She hasn't got Bangladesh citizenship and they have stated they won't give her it.

So it's ok for it to cost Syrian people? Why?

YANBU. I couldn’t leave my child alone there either. Even if I went, got her a place to stay (as comfortable as possible.) offered some moral support than came back. She’s her child.

Perhaps a stupid question, but how is it trafficking if she travelled of her own free will? The girls in Rotherham and the Epstein girls were in the same physical location as their groomers, given drugs and alcohol, and were effectively held against their will.

She has Bangladesh citizenship

Does she?

at the time SB left her UK home to go to join ISIS she was well aware ISIS were beheading people and terrorising them because we all saw it day after day on the news. To suggest she was innocent and a victim is an insult to the real victims of the disgusting ISIS regime

There are for instance some young boys/men under 18 in this world who are brainwashed to become terrorists or suicide bombers. They're still victims in a way as they're still officially minors and were doing it due to suggestion.

But don’t the Syrians get paid to have the refugee camps?

If she were my DD, I'd feel guilty, and would be going over and over in my mind whether/what more I could have done to stop her falling into the hands of such predatory, repulsive men.

I'd certainly be doing everything I could to get her back in the country and would be desperate to see and support her as best I could.

Me too...murdering cow

Even if I went, got her a place to stay (as comfortable as possible.)

Syria's been a warzone for years. Where do you think you'd find her a nice comfortable place to stay?

Me too

she is a British citizen and it is illegal to strip her of that citizenship and make her stateless. it is only because she is brown that people think this is ok. it's fecking racist to think it's ok to dump our brown criminals in countries because the people there are also brown

We didn't dump her, she dumped herself in other country's due to her connections with ISIS, I wouldn't want any people who involved theirselves with terrorists whatever their colour.

Calling it racist is absolute rubbish, you do realise what horrors she was involved in.

If she were my DD, I'd feel guilty, and would be going over and over in my mind whether/what more I could have done to stop her falling into the hands of such predatory, repulsive men

Which brings us back to what I asked upthread - who, exactly, radicalised her before she left the UK?

If this was in the UK and a grown man married a 15yo child nobody would be saying she knew what she was getting into, they'd be saying she was groomed.

People on twitter were quick to quote her as saying she was "ok with" the beheadings and things she saw over there, then use that as an example as for why she shouldn't be allowed back.

What was she supposed to say? Once there, speaking out to condem what went on would have got her killed.

She was a 15 year old child raised in the UK, there is zero doubt that what she saw going on over there will have traumatised her. I have zero doubt she will be suffering from PTSD.

She was a child, she was groomed.

Yes according to the act of 1951 she does

she could also apply for Dutch citizenship

she has stated support for isis and remains married
she has stacks of evidence submitted in court about what she did - voluntarily - she wasn’t forced as an enforcer. She doesn’t regret IS involvement before.

other things can come into play as well but I suggest you take a nosey at the evidence submitted in court - it’s an eye opener

I don’t think it would be easy at all to turn off your love for your child and even if a person did go NC the road ahead would be a very difficult and painful one to walk.

She was married to one man who she maintained she loved. Perhaps we should stop making stuff up then we’d be having a reasoned debate.

If my dd was happy to take part in beheading innocent people and managed to bury 3 of my gc, I wouldn’t want to know her. I’d be absolutely distraught that I raised a monster.

Begam should never be allowed to set foot in the UK again. I could give a rats arse what happens to her tbh. She doesn’t deserve consideration

Ms Begum is a young woman,not a child. she should return here she’s UK citizen after all. Trial and incarceration in UK, she needs rehabilitation and not allowed to radicalise or influence other vulnerable clients

her mum can’t and won’t travel to a refugee camp

damn right, I'm out for an argument about this its important

@RosieRooster83 i completely agree.

I dont want SB back in the country. She left to become a terrorist and support the infliction of pain and death on the west. Im interested in her home life and that or her siblings. I dont see how you can stumble across this kind of thing

Exactly

She’s still not coming back though :)

Begum is a terrorist!! Why are on earth would you sympathise with her ?? she fled her home country to be with ISIS. Why are you even wasting a moment writing about her like this? She would have been trained to murder innocent people. She wasn’t les to believe of a better life abroad, as it is for actually trafficked victims. She left to go war alongside ISIS. Is this some troll trying to drum up sympathy for this atrocious human?

Me neither. I would be taking a long, hard look at myself and my role in what happened.

I see all the hang her flog her brigade are noisily popping up. Predictable. Tiresome
Ms Begum acts are loathsome and she should face trial & incarceration in UK.
segregated and not allowed to influence or radicalise other prisoners. She needs assessed for her rehab potential. But she is our problem, she’s a UK citizen, we need to deal with her. Not palm her off to other countries