I’d want to do the same - mother kills children’s abuser

[HermioneKipper]

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/sarah-sands-kill-sex-abuse-paedophile-b2231508.html

i think any parent would do the same if given the chance

Sentences for this sort of crime are derisory. They get let out to reoffend again and again and again. The only way to keep future victims safe from them is life imprisonment or killing them, and I'm surprised more people don't do the latter.

Anyone who thinks they could just 'trust the system' has never been at the hands of one of these monsters and watched them walk away, care free, able to carry on offending again. And again.

That woman did the only thing that would actually keep her children (and countless others) safe from a paedophile. Well, bar life in prison, but he would have been out in a few years tops. Rape is practically legal in the UK right now.

i think any parent would do the same if given the chance

I couldn't.

Jesus Christ. It's like "Take a Break" made manifest

Why? If, as you say, the country is run by nonces then introducing capital punishment would make no difference to the conviction rates. Ergo, no one would actually be put to death anyway.

I’d want to kill him… but not enough to leave my children and go to prison. They must have missed her so much.

She should be made a dame. I’m only half joking. I read this yesterday and I cheered. Sentencing for paedophiles is a joke in this country. Look how many times these evil bastards reoffend! She did the world a favour. Had he gone inside again, he’d have been let out and been back reoffending. It’s what they do. Take it from someone that knows, they are the most manipulative deceitful scum on the planet. The justice system is at fault here. Had he received life the first time he offended, he wouldn’t have been stabbed by a mother heartbroken over what he was able to do to her sons. If anyone has the stomach for it (and I caveat this with a massive trigger warning), read about Sidney Cooke and the ‘dirty dozen’. This tells you all you need to know about what happens if these scum bags are released. It’s time our justice system had a huge shake up. They should be locked up for life on the first offence. Offending, lying, grooming, deceiving and subsequently reoffending is all they know.

I don't believe people capable of sexual abuse, especially against children can be reformed as part of the justice system. They are fundamentally evil. Add in that the justice system in this country doesn't go anything close enough to handing out life changing and punitive punishments for these sorts of crimes (even when the victims are believed and there's cast iron proof) so I'm inclined to be on the side of the mother.

If someone did this to either of my children I wouldn't trust the police or courts to punish someone. I'd take it in my own hands - or my husband would. Probably whichever of us was the lower earner at the time.

So the son was without a parent present for six years? I'm not sure that was best for the child. The father needed to be punished and the child needed to be protected but that doesn't seem the best way to do it.

Nowadays we have people saying they should be allowed to love dc, not only are they talking about this openly but they actually want the law changed to allow it. They are comparing their feelings for dc to being gay.

Rather than giving any credence to this, we as a society should be removing them from society and stopping paedophile from being anywhere near dc.

I'd still ask any mother how would you react if pleading to spare your children going through a court case and the abuser said your children are lying.
I cannot understand how any mother would not react like this woman did. It is such an overwhelming reaction to protect your children with every fibre of your being. The woman was imo opinion left with little choice both by the criminal justice system and the abuser.
Until we walk in her shoes you really don't know how it would affect you.

The father needed to be punished and the child needed to be protected but that doesn't seem the best way to do it

Probably killing him was the only way to spare the child court-ordered contact.

moltenlasagne I agree with every word.

The thing is she didn’t go there intending to kill him. She wanted him to agree to plead guilty so her boys wouldn’t have to give evidence. He then had the nerve to say to her that the boys were lying. No wonder she saw red. He had a chance to do one right thing in his life and none of this would have happened. I can feel zero sympathy for him. All my sympathy is for her and her sons.

@FlatWhiteExtraHot quite OBVIOUSLY I'm talking about the ideal. But it isn't is it this is why it carries on. To protect them. Really great interview with James English on YouTube and a fella who used to be a police whistle-blower. If you have the time or the inclination check it out. Eye opener about just how much stuff is covered up

She deserves a medal not a prison sentence.

How many lives did that evil b* ruin?!

I’m sorry your sister went through that and I know the impacts will have spread to your whole family. M

I agree that lack of faith in the system causes this kind of vigilante behaviour and it’s too easy to sit here and say you wouldn’t ever when you haven’t tried to live across the road from the guy that abused your kids

I felt for her sitting beside her lovely sons when she had missed so much of their lives when I saw the interview.

How did he abuse all three of the boys and why on earth was he allowed to move back to the estate when he was waiting for his trial date? Who the hell thought that was a good idea but I guess these people need to live somewhere.

Having said that he was scum, he shouldnt be walking the streets and able to come and go bearing in mind his past history but as others say the 'woke' idiots will want him to be tried and innocent until proven guility etc.

Would I have done the same? I dont know but suspect when he smirked at her and laughed saying her sons were lying that must have triggered something in her and she did have a knife.

I suppose it depends on what you think punishment is for.

I mean, the law clearly didn't deter this man and his previous punishment absolutely didn't rehabilitate him either (I don't think sexual predators can be ever be rehabilitated, personally, maybe chemical castration is the way to go). I don't agree with vigilante justice, but I can see how that might happen in a system that is broken.

I also don't think that she went over intending to kill him - she wanted to threaten him into confessing to spare her sons from having to testify. Absolutely not the thing to do, but I cannot imagine what she must have been going through.

I think for the greater good they should all be locked up for life or killed, not for bloodlust and vengeance, for the protection of some of the most vulnerable in our society. They cannot be rehabilitated. It’s as simple as that. They must be kept away from society. I truly believe I’d have done the same.

Do we think she bears some responsibility (to her sons welfare) in not having allowed him access to her sons in the first place? This man was obviously left alone with all three of them for long enough periods of time to abuse them repeatedly.

So no, I don't blame her and yes, I can absolutely see myself doing the same. But I doubt this man was done paragon of virtue who had everyone fooled .. he was a long term offender and yet she started some sort of relationship with him which enabled him this unfettered access to her children.

A parents role is to protect so I wonder if she ever considers that she didn't do this in the first place?

I'd say being dead is a pretty strong deterrent. He won't be doing that again for a while.

Not saying it was a sensible thing to do, but nobody has any confidence he'd be serving an appropriate sentence. He would be back reoffending. How do you propose he serves a lengthy sentence when people do 5 years for murder? It's nuts the sentences they hand out

If she didn't intend to kill him why did she take the knife?

Interesting that in Norway, prisons rehabilitate people and they have much less repeat offending.

The prob with paedos is they can't be rehabilitated.