I’d want to do the same - mother kills children’s abuser

[HermioneKipper]

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/sarah-sands-kill-sex-abuse-paedophile-b2231508.html

i think any parent would do the same if given the chance

She didn't plan to kill him, she wasn't in her right mind.

The system is the one who fucked up here not this woman. Why was he allowed to be across the street from them while he awaited trial. No wonder she was pushed over the edge. I don't believe in the death penalty or an eye for an eye but I'm not going to be crying myself to sleep over him.

27 convictions over three decades. He abused her children and intended to say that they lied about the allegations, forcing them to be dragged through the court system, and he lived freely across the road from the children.

How is she deranged and a threat to other people? It's not like this was a parking dispute.

In my head if I knew I wouldn't get caught I'd make the person's life a living hell. I'd track them down and publish them as a peado until the day I died. I'd pay people to kick the shit out them monthly for the rest of their lives. I'd key their car, I would post them dogshit. I'd sign them.up for every junk mail possible. I'd post bed bugs through their door. I'd do everything and anything so that they prayed for death daily. In my head.

In reality I'd not do that. I would never ever forgive them. I would hate them forever

Or, if the law worked vigilantism wouldn't happen.

I'd do the same.

My abuser was left the stay in the home, after social services invovlement and admiting it. He got a course through the GP's apparently and that was it. I don't know if he went. When I mentioned being abused to the GP years later she knew nothing about it.

So, if someone abused my child or one of me nieces or nephews, I wouldn't hesitate to stab the cunt and drop them in a deep river.

The police don't seem to investigate stabbings and murders in my area anyway.

I don’t think any of us are suggesting we all go on a free for all stabbing paeodophiles to death (although, I could be free next Wednesday 👀*), we want better sentencing. We want to see people that view CSA and that groom and abuse children be handed life sentences. Part of going to prison is to pay your debt to society and rehabilitate so that you can be part of that same society again. It is well known and researched that paedophiles cannot do that. Rehabilitation is impossible. The only suitable punishment must be life behind bars. If that remains off the table, then more people will be driven to this.

I can see why she lost it when face to face with someone who'd abused her children and then had the audacity to call them liars.

I think I'd probably have the same outcome in those circumstances.

*clearly I’m joking before anyone starts!

You would have the urge to kill. But I think he deserves the suffering of being locked up.

i wouldn’t have killed him though - only chopped his balls off or something similar

god I don’t know what type of person that makes me!!!!!

She made what happened to her DC about her and her feelings. It wasn't best for the DC that she was in prison.

The system is responsible for the abuse of those boys and the subsequent death of the abuser. Given his history, he should have been behind bars, not free to go on to abuse others.

She has done society a favour, he now has a zero percent chance of reoffending and ruining anyone else's lives.

I wonder what the 'two wrongs don't make a right' crowd would be saying if thier child was abused by a known sex offender.

The police are too busy investigating women hurting mens feelings on twitter to investigate any of that theycanallgofuckthemselves.

Only thing she did wrong was get caught.

She may well have gone round to kill him but the court believed her when she stated she had drunk two bottles of wine and some other alcohol and gone round to persuade him to tell the truth to the police that he abused her children so that her children wouldn’t have to suffer in court trying to prove it.

The real issue is that he was able to change his name after his previous conviction and carry on abusing under a new name whereby people thought he was trustworthy.

@Sleepdeprived101 I'm not sure I agree, realistically it was to protect them from the ordeal of court and seeing the monster again. I completely get that she lost it and that's about her but I'm not sure it was her desires that fuelled it. I'm sure many would disagree though!

She went to the police station that day

God almighty.

I just read the BBC article.

An utter tragedy all round.

But in response to the PP who questioned whether the poor woman bore some responsibility for allowing the offender access to her sons, I’ll tell you part of the issue…..

The paedophile was old, male, charming and an expert at grooming. Women are socialised to be kind, take on the roles of carers to anyone who appears to need it. How often do women who voice suspicions about dodgy behaviour get accused of being paranoid and seeing danger at every corner?

There is an element of institutional gas-lighting at play that needs to be addressed.

As for the ludicrous loopholes that allow sex offenders to change names and re-build their lives? Unbelievable. I would want the judges investigated in this case - law or not, it almost sanctions repeat offenders to just keep going.

This case is an unholy mess and should lead to a stringent review of the whole system.

She clearly did not think through what she was doing as 3 boys who needed their mother were left without and their childhood suffered. Killing him made the boys feel safe according to them but I suspect they didn't feel safe with her in prison.

What he did was disgusting and I do think the punishment for abusing a child is not tough enough. Calling photos child pornography is wrong for a start. They are child abuse images. We need to change the language when dealing with children and to allow bail is just appalling. I understand there is a right to bail but those children had a right to live without fear of being abused. I hope they request an investigation into how and why he was given the bail conditions he was. The law failed to protect the children and I can see why the mother took it into her own hands. She must have utterly crumbled hearing she looked after a man who repaid her kindness with taking her her children's innocence.

I don't agree with killing criminals but I don't feel sadness over one less peadophile in the world. I just have utter empathy for a mother who was pushed passed breaking point and 3 boys whose lives were forever changed because of a disgusting old man and a heart broken mother

Except he wouldn't be left to rot and he was living on the same estate. So what now?

Good on her. The justice system had failed - he was previously convicted of abusing, released from prison and carried on abusing children. What's the point of waiting around for it to happen to more kids

He had already been in prison for similar offences, so it hadn't stopped him. Even if he had been found guilty, he would have been out of prison again sooner or later, and would have kept hurting children.

I am glad he is no longer in this world to hurt any more children.

I don't know if I'd do the same and don't think it neccessarily the right outcome (not least because these boys lost their mother for a few years) but I find no sympathy in my heart for the dead guy or blame for the mother.

Are some of you imagining a sliding doors moment where she didn't kill him, the children got through the court case unscathed and he went to prison for the rest of his life never to harm another child again? Do you, read the news?