I’d want to do the same - mother kills children’s abuser

[HermioneKipper]

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/sarah-sands-kill-sex-abuse-paedophile-b2231508.html

i think any parent would do the same if given the chance

I would say the same thing about both sides of the argument.

The nuance in this case is that this woman was left in a desperate situation knowing that the man who had abused her children and many others before them had yet again been allowed out of prison and was back living across the road. I don’t agree with what she did but as a mother I can understand why she did it and I can’t judge her for doing what she could to protect her family when the courts have made it plain that they don’t care.

@FourTeaFallOut its not ok to go around killing people.

She should have let justice take it's course, then he'd have been in jail and she'd have been around for her boys.

That's the point,he was a convicted pedophile & facing other charges. Why was he free to reoffend?

'He is a man who committed the most horrendous crimes, for which he should of course face justice. But no one deserves to die.'

@MrsSchrute

Yes. They do. He serves no purpose in this civilised society of which you speak. He is a monster to children. He didn't learn from his 'mistakes' the first time he did it so why on Earth do you think the justice system would prevail that time? He would continue to abuse little children and take utmost pleasure in doing so. What's more important, protecting the lives of paedophiles, who we do not keep in prison for any substantial amount of time, or preventing that paedophile from continuing to rape and abuse kids?

A judge once said "Not only must Justice be done, it must also be seen to be done."

If people lose faith that justice will be carried out by the systems in place, incidences like this are going to increase.

The fact is that this is a man with 24 previous convictions against children - in what fair and safe society was it right that he was released on bail?

The mother has taken responsibility for her actions, she has done her time. What about the accountability of the system that let down so many and led her to acting?

If criminal justice system worked properly people wouldn't take matters in to their own hands like this.

That's my view

I bet that he wouldn't have even gone to prison, not alone for 4 years should she have let him live.
Hopefully if more people are as courageous as her, then it will force the legal system to shake up. She did the right thing, morally speaking. Only wrong in the warped view of the legal system.

Well, of course it is unlawful to kill a paedophile. But it is, undeniably, effective.

The bloodlust and theirst for vengeance on this thread is really unsettling.

🙄

I wouldn’t do the same but I don’t judge her.

She couldn’t have been spared prison - we can’t advocate a vigilante system. It would be terrifying.

@Wereeaglesdare capital punishment demonstrably doesn’t work.

If anything comes out of this it shoud be an overhaul of the "justice" system that allows people like the abuser to be out and about carrying on their merry way.

And if the police and the CPS (and politicians) would stop going for the easy low-hanging fruit (as it looks from the outside) and apply the strongest possible penalties under the law, cases like this wouldn't happen.

Many years ago a German woman stood up in court and shot the man who raped and murdered her daughter. She went to prison too, which is fair enough. I get the desire to do that, but there is a reason we don't involve victims in the justice system outside of as witnesses and an impact statement.

Yeah, I know what you mean. As I said previously, it’s a shit situation and there are no winners here.

I just feel really sorry for those young men. They get groomed and sexually abused by an offender who should never have been anywhere near them. And then their mum kills him, meaning they have to grow up without her around. They talk about the trauma nightmares, which she wasn’t around to help them deal with.

I find it interesting that so many people on this thread are centring the abuser here. It’s SS’s sons who are the victims, and who are left with lifelong trauma. It’s tragic. And yet we’ve got people crowing about her being a ‘hero’ in prison. It’s sick.

@GoingtotheWinchester what does work then? Because there are people out there raping babies and looking up kiddie porn strolling around free to look at our kids. Because they have served their pathetic sentences. I want these people dead for the greater good of everyone once u have crossed a line u no longer deserve to be in society. Even in indigenous tribes you are banished for hurting children it is not the norm anywhere but our country may aswell roll out the red carpet for the nonces. Oh yeh wait they do his names Andrew right?

and does nothing to stop others committing the same crime

having read the BBC article i feel so sad for those boys. Things like their gran asking thei mum if they could go to football and her saying "no". Not lovely, tbh

Then the kicker when they said they wished they'd never revealed the abuse. What a mess.

And that is a really really good reason not to take "justice" into your own hands.

Agree with every word. Well said @Quincythequince
@MrsSchrute there was nothing civilised in what he did to the many children he abused over the years. As a mother are you seriously saying you wouldn't wish him dead. I know I would if that makes me a bad person so be it.

What is sick is a criminal system which minimises the harm done to children by paedophiles and the lacklustre sentencing. This whole situation just wouldn't have happened if children weren't paying the price for underfunded prisons hidden by a liberal narrative.

I work with children - not sure I need a lecture on abusers 🙄.

There have been some truly shocking miscarriages of justice and it’s never been shown as a deterrent.

Getting caught is more of a deterrent. Supporting children to speak out. Lengthier sentences. There are no easy answers but capital punishment or vigilantism certainly aren’t the answers.

She should have let justice take it's course, then he'd have been in jail

Oh the naivety!

He wasn't being locked up despite being a prolific lifelong child rapist.

He might have got some community service. Or they wouldn't have put him on trial due to age. He knew how to work the system.

Why wasn't he being monitored post prison?

@Thedogscollar theres a very big difference between wishing him dead and killing him.

I find it interesting that so many people on this thread are centring the abuser here. It’s SS’s sons who are the victims, and who are left with lifelong trauma. It’s tragic. And yet we’ve got people crowing about her being a ‘hero’ in prison. It’s sick.

I disagree. I think some of us who are glad this paedo is dead are living with the knowledge that their own abuser still walks freely and has probably abused many more. My reaction to this piece was vicarious and strong.

Of course the kids should not have had to grow up without their mother. Our criminal justice system should have locked this paedo up after his first offence.

I think it depends what you mean by "work". I believe all the evidence suggests it's a very poor deterrent but there is no denying that it's 100% effective if you want to stop someone committing further offences.

Sounds like society owes her a debt of gratitude.