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Not allowed siblings at my sons nativity play .. including my breast fed baby??

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WinnieLovett · 23/11/2022 16:28

My daughter is 4 months old and breastfeeding.

My two other sons are involved in the school nativity play. The school will be having two performers one at 2:30 and one at 7:00.

I have been informed that the school has a ‘no sibling rule’ to watching so I will not be allowed to bring my daughter. The issue is these times are both when she has milk.

I was also told by the head that she may make noise and interrupt the performance !!

Really sad as I don’t want to miss it ! But do not feel happy leaving my baby at these times!

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MissBattleaxe · 23/11/2022 19:03

As a parent who went to nine school Christmas concerts that were ALL drowned out by a parent too selfish to nip out for a few minutes, I am 100% team school on this one. You have the entire 23.5 hours to feed your baby. You're not a victim FGS.

ZeldaWillTellYourFortune · 23/11/2022 19:04

Bigbadfish · 23/11/2022 18:43

Ours have set it at 18:00 and said no kids at all.

Utter bullshit. A lot of parents here don't have childcare.

Not having childcare is a parenting fail, not something the rest of society should be compensating for.

It should be basic Parenting 101 to know that times will arise when childcare is needed. Illness, work travel, events like the nativity, caregiving for others, whatever. If parents have failed to plan for unexpected scenarios and failed to cultivate babysitters, or make mutually supportive arrangements with neighbours, or find professional minders who can do occasional sitting, that is on them.

Same with the financial aspect -- being able to afford ad hoc child sitting is a rock bottom basic, like affording diapers or food.

If they haven't bothered to line up care, they will miss out on things AND will be in trouble should one or both parents be ill or injured, hospitalized, unexpectedly called away, etc. but that is no one's fault save their own.

Wiluli · 23/11/2022 19:04

SnotRag22 · 23/11/2022 18:17

At our school the head would likely just send the kids back to their classrooms, stop the performance and wait until you left of your own accord.

The weight of 60 other parents annoyed eyes bearing down on you might shift your focus a bit 😂

Wow that says more about her than anyone else . What a miserable moo

Mommabear20 · 23/11/2022 19:05

Express milk and leave her a bottle with whoever looks after her! Not the end of the world for 1 hour

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DigbyLongcock · 23/11/2022 19:06

Not having childcare is a parenting fail

WTAF?

I had no childcare, ever, when my DC were small. That's because I was a SAHM and our nearest family were 300 miles away. I didn't want to leave them with random strangers. How is that a "parenting fail"?

user1496146479 · 23/11/2022 19:06

EndlessRain · 23/11/2022 16:42

I find it really amazign that in 4 months your baby has never had to be even slightly delayed for her feed (15 mins early, 30 mins late). As long as she's with someone she knows they should be able to distract her for half an hour while you watch the performance. Babies (BF or FF) can be noisy and disruptive. So can a parent shufling out of those low PE benches trying to get out with said noisy baby so as not to disrupt the performance (which already will be prone to distraction and not entirely seemless).

I have to say the whole "being put in this situation" in "this day and age" is pretty dramatic.

Totally agree with this. At 4 months you should be able to flex a bit!

BoardingSchoolMater · 23/11/2022 19:08

DuplicateUserName · 23/11/2022 18:11

Was this before social media became popular?

Social media didn't exist when my children were little, thank God. Neither did internet phones, ipads etc.

JemimaTiggywinkles · 23/11/2022 19:09

She's being asked to abide by the same rules as everyone else. It's absurd to claim this is discrimination.

A blanket rule can be indirect discrimination if it affects one protected group more than everyone else. Eg, if a school said that all boys must be clean shaven they would be indirectly discriminating against those who can’t remove hair for religious reasons. Or a “no jewellery” policy which stops Sikh people from wearing a kara.

However, if the “no jewellery” policy is for (genuine) safety reasons, it could be classed as “proportionate means to legitimate aim” and so the discrimination would be lawful.

BoardingSchoolMater · 23/11/2022 19:09

BloodAndFire · 23/11/2022 18:18

It is a safeguarding issue. there are several children at my kids' schools who are not allowed to be photographed at all. Hence no phones in the playground, at shows, etc.

Perhaps this issue doesn't arise so much at boarding schools?

Keen as I am on boarding, even my children didn't go until they were 13. Grin

Wiluli · 23/11/2022 19:10

People on this thread are so miserable, all of our school events allow siblings and I love that there are babies older kids and yonger kids . We all know each others kids by now even the babies and nobody would care if any toddler is making a bit of a fuss . It happens . It’s a kids nativity not a west end play

Purplepurse · 23/11/2022 19:10

It's actually very sad that you feel you cannot adjust your feeding routine or make your baby wait so that you can see your other children in their play. It's a huge deal for them and so much hard work goes into school plays. I'm suprised that watching them is not the priority here and not your other child. Saying you will not attend is unusual I think.

Pixie2015 · 23/11/2022 19:11

Sounds fair 30mins very short feed early or see if there will be video you can watch

AppleDumplingWithCustard · 23/11/2022 19:11

Wiluli · 23/11/2022 19:04

Wow that says more about her than anyone else . What a miserable moo

On the contrary, good for her. Showing that she won’t be railroaded by entitled parents.

abblie · 23/11/2022 19:12

The afternoon performance is usually sibling allowed but definitely not at evening show its quite normal

M103 · 23/11/2022 19:12

Our school (primary) allows siblings...

PinkSyCo · 23/11/2022 19:14

Can’t you express some milk? If not, your baby won’t die if you feed them a little earlier or later than usual.

BoardingSchoolMater · 23/11/2022 19:15

mam0918 · 23/11/2022 18:20

Do you film other peoples kids in the park?

No, because a) that would be weird, as I haven't been to a park since my DC grew out of them; and b) I don't have anything to film even my own children with, never mind those of random strangers. It's partly that I am clearly a dinosaur. But also because schools might have changed. I knew every single family at my DC's prep schools (which were themselves like families), and I never once worried about another parent videoing my children. We all knew one another and liked one another. Why would it be a problem in this scenario? Ditto siblings, babies etc. We passed the babies and toddlers round if they started to get fractious (or took them out, if need be, but that was okay as someone else would have been recording my child's great dramatic moment as a sheep). I think the world was probably a better and happier place pre-phones and social media.

FlissyPaps · 23/11/2022 19:16

Wiluli · 23/11/2022 19:10

People on this thread are so miserable, all of our school events allow siblings and I love that there are babies older kids and yonger kids . We all know each others kids by now even the babies and nobody would care if any toddler is making a bit of a fuss . It happens . It’s a kids nativity not a west end play

You honestly can not speak for all the other parents in the audience who “don’t care” at toddlers making a fuss. Honestly who do you think you are. The voice of reason?😂

I’d care if was watching my child perform and they were being put off or their sound was drowned out by a child in the audience crying/tantruming.

Knowing everyone else’s child’s sibling by name is my idea of hell.

It’s not being miserable, it’s having common decency, common sense and manners. A lot of posters, including yourself, seem to be lacking in.

Vitriolinsanity · 23/11/2022 19:16

The problem is that entitlement runs hard these days. For every person that legs it out with the sibling, umpteen others sit there just going ssshhh loudly and ineffectually or break out the bloody rice cakes.

BoardingSchoolMater · 23/11/2022 19:17

Knowing everyone else’s child’s sibling by name is my idea of hell

Not knowing this would have been mine. I used to invite them all to the DC's birthday parties too.

mitsy5 · 23/11/2022 19:21

We’ve all had to jiggle feeds round for older siblings (school run etc) whether breast or bottle fed.

Vitriolinsanity · 23/11/2022 19:22

Hats off @BoardingSchoolMater I got screwed for an extra £100 when a bunch of siblings turned up to a paid per child birthday party. All the siblings stood there boot faced at not being able to join in and I, to my lasting shame, caved and let them join in. First and last time.

Fcuk38 · 23/11/2022 19:22

You are being precious this is a normal rule for the majority of schools. Your baby will have to survive with an earlier bottle for one evening only otherwise you just don’t go.

ZeldaWillTellYourFortune · 23/11/2022 19:23

DigbyLongcock · 23/11/2022 19:06

Not having childcare is a parenting fail

WTAF?

I had no childcare, ever, when my DC were small. That's because I was a SAHM and our nearest family were 300 miles away. I didn't want to leave them with random strangers. How is that a "parenting fail"?

Well, if you plan to never be away from your children, I guess it's not a fail.

But people who DO want to attend events where children aren't welcome can't whine about not being able to because "not everyone has childcare." And expect sympathy or rules changes to benefit them, because they haven't invested any time or effort in lining up babysitters.