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AIBU?

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To keep parking in front of this "drive"?

342 replies

Droppingthekerb · 22/11/2022 15:40

Sorry it's a long one. I'll start off by saying that due to mobility issues I do drive my children to school which is about 1.5 miles from our house. I do not however qualify for a blue badge.

There are several residential streets near the school where people park to take kids to the school. I imagine it is annoying for the people who live there but there are no restrictions on the road in terms of yellow lines etc and generally I'd say people are respectful of the residents. There are a couple of cars who park overhanging the yellow zigzags and some on bends but for the most part people park at the side of the road and don't block driveways. Dropped kerbs are marked with white lines so it is clear where it is ok to park.

I tend to park on the street one up from the school as usually it is quieter and there's more chance of getting a space. Until recently there was a house on the street that had fallen into disrepair with an overgrown front garden. Over the last couple of months there have been tradespeople coming and doing up the house and now the front garden has been paved over. About 2 weeks ago I parked in front of this house and a man came running out of the house opposite shouting at me that I couldn't park there as I was blocking a drive. I had my kids with me and told him I did not appreciate being shouted at in front of them especially as there was no dropped kerb so it wasn't a driveway. There wasn't a car parked on it either. He stormed off back into his house.

A few days later I saw the space was available and as it was raining there were a lot of extra cars on the school run so spots were at a premium. I parked there again and returned to a note on my car not to block driveways.

I don't park there every time as there are other spaces available often before I get to that spot but last week I was running late for pick up and noticed the space was free again - I was feeling a bit petty too by this point. However, there was a police officer speaking to drivers about their parking to ensure it was safe as it was near a school. I parked there and the police officer stopped me and said she'd had a complaint about people blocking the drive. I pointed out there was no dropped kerb and she immediately said, "Oh, you're absolutely right. Carry on."

This morning it was again the only available space but today there was a car on the drive and seemingly new residents. I parked up as usual to find the man from the house opposite screaming at me again in front of my kids that I was blocking the drive and now the new resident of the house coming out to join in. I tried to keep my cool but it is quite intimidating having 2 men shouting at you in public especially with young children. I said I needed to get the kids to school but they were misinformed if they thought it was a drive as it didn't have a dropped kerb and actually he was in the wrong for driving his car over the pedestrian footpath. Neither of them were listening though as they just kept shouting over the top of me.

When I came back to my car he had taken a photo of it and then a photo of me and told me he was reporting me to the police. I again tried to explain about the lack of dropped kerb and he flat out told me that was not true, that he had the right to create a driveway whereever he wanted and that actually parking on the street full stop (driveway or no driveway) was against the law and he should know because he is a lawyer. I told him he was speaking rubbish and to look on the council website as it is very clear.

Up to now I've parked in other spots if they have been available but AIBU to keep parking in front of this "drive" just to make a point because they have pissed me off?

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Ineedaduvetday · 22/11/2022 17:02

YABU. Regardless that it doesn’t

gingerninja99 · 22/11/2022 17:02

There was a house like this near our school and I parked across his 'drive' (No dropped kerb, he just knocked down the wall to his front garden & shoved some slabs down) He drove into my car and I reported him to the police and had witnesses! I reported him for the accident, failing to stop after an accident, driving over a public footpath with no dropped kerb and aggressive behaviour Grin

He did finally get a dropped kerb

EpicChaos · 22/11/2022 17:03

Presumably, if the homeowner can't use the drive unless and until there is a dropped kerb in place, then he/she will be parking where you park until the kerb has been dealt with, ergo, there is still no place for your car. Find somewhere else to park, even if you have to get there 10/15 minutes earlier.
Surely if PIP/DLA, or your council occ health dept., thought you were disabled, then you'd have a blue badge, wouldn't you? Not that it would change anything as regards parking in front of someones driveway but it might help with finding an alternative parking spot. They obviously don't see you as being unable to walk a bit further to the school gates.

Heronwatcher · 22/11/2022 17:04

Legally you’re in the right but I wouldn’t block another car in unless I really had no alternative and even then only for a couple of minutes at most. I assume that the alternative to them parking on the non-drive would be them parking on the road in the space you’re using so it’s also a bit self-defeating.

KatherineJaneway · 22/11/2022 17:04

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TheGuv1982 · 22/11/2022 17:06

Why on Earth would you do something knowingly, that is highly likely to cause a confrontation infront of you kids.

Regardless of who is in the right, deliberately blocking in another car is a dick move also.

LookItsMeAgain · 22/11/2022 17:08

Are you actually parking across an opening (whether there is a car on the 'driveway' or not) that would allow for a car to be parked in a front garden space?
I'm not 100% sure I understand where you are parking (I could be tired and just not getting it).

If you're parking near an opening that might in time become a driveway with a dropped kerb, but not blocking it per se, then I wouldn't park there but I might contact the council and ask them if the resident has applied for a dropped kerb (which they may or may not tell you) so that you can plan your parking appropriately.

Best case scenario would be for you to leave your house a little bit earlier and even if the kids have to sit in the car for a few minutes before you walk them around to the school, that is what I would do.

IveDroppedMiBiscuitInMiBrew · 22/11/2022 17:09

You are just being awkward, someone lives in the house and is parking their car there. They could be waiting for the council to drop the kerb for all you know, you are literally just being a dick for no reason. Niether of you are in the right, but you dont live there, they do and have to put up with you blocking them in for no apparent reason.

Thebestwaytoscareatory · 22/11/2022 17:10

FlissyPaps · 22/11/2022 16:43

You sound incredibly pedantic by saying “there’s no dropped kerb”. So what?!

If someone has told you more than once, not to block the drive way, it does sound like you are blocking access to their property. Dropped kerb or not.

The residents have every right to be angry about annoying parents causing disruption on residential roads at school pickup/drop off time. I’ve seen it plenty of times myself.

If you have mobility issues speak to the school to see if you are able to use the staff carpark in order to drop your children off safely. Or you either wait for a space to be available where you aren’t obstructing access to anyones property.

Pavements aren't designed to have vehicles driving over them and repeatedly doing so risks structural damage to the ground and any pipe work/utilities below the surface, which the council (and by extention all council tax payers) have to pay to fix.

When a dropped kerb is put in the surface is strengthened to ensure there's no damage.

That this twat is too cheap to pay for his kerb to be dropped is not the OPs issue and if we're the OP I'd be making sure he's reported to the council ASAP.

Boooooot · 22/11/2022 17:13

None of our drives on our street have dropped kerbs. I know that legally we can park across them but we don’t he use we’re not assholes.

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 22/11/2022 17:16

Legally you are absolutely right, but I wouldn’t risk it. Call me a coward but I wouldn’t find it worth the aggro.

CapMarvel · 22/11/2022 17:18

You're not wrong. If there isn't a dropped curb you are totally entitled to park there.

However, the guy sounds completely unhinged and you have to ask yourself if it's worth the hassle and potential danger to continue to park there.

startfresh · 22/11/2022 17:19

Years after the fact, I still regret not spending a few days parking in front of the "drive" I was written a note not to block.

I wrote a letter back to show the law, but just dropped it instead.

It still makes me mad that she thought she had the right to tell me that I could not use a legal space (again, no dropped kerb) which was counted in the council review as a space for the residential parking.

I would park there and post the "dropped kerb" law print outs to their houses.

CapMarvel · 22/11/2022 17:19

Boooooot · 22/11/2022 17:13

None of our drives on our street have dropped kerbs. I know that legally we can park across them but we don’t he use we’re not assholes.

But not non-assholes enough to apply for dropped kerbs?

startfresh · 22/11/2022 17:20

OhmygodDont · 22/11/2022 15:43

No drop kerb no drive way. I’d report him the council. They might well come stick a bollard there mine does sometimes when they are feeling extra petty.

I could understand if he was due a drop kerb and you was blocking the tradesmen installing it but his clearly not got it booked in.

Oh this is incredible to know.

Teder · 22/11/2022 17:20

You may be legally correct but I bet parents do not park considerately.
The men are petty and you are petty.
If I was the house owner, I’d park my car in “your spot” and then you’d be screwed.

Sparklingbrook · 22/11/2022 17:20

This comes under 'just because you can doesn't mean you should' for me. Why risk being yelled at every day or damage to your car? It's not worth it.

Jimmini · 22/11/2022 17:20

You both sound like absolute dickheads to be honest.

OoooohMatron · 22/11/2022 17:20

I can't believe some of the responses on here 'tough shit', 'report him to the council' etc. What happened to just being a decent person and not inconveniencing someone just to be a petty twat? Pathetic.

Caroffee · 22/11/2022 17:20

YABU and deserve to be clamped. How would you feel if somebody blocked your access from your house when you were just about to set off on the school run? No? Didn't think so.

Whatsleftnow · 22/11/2022 17:22

I’m amazed at how carefully posters study kerbs when deciding where to park. I’d be paying more attention to the gateways and it probably wouldn’t occur to me glance down.

Notanotherone6 · 22/11/2022 17:23

It might not be illegal but that doesn't mean that you're not a massive bellend. The 'intimidating' men shouting at you doesn't wash either, I'm afraid, as you'd already experienced the consequence of parking there and yet chose to do it again. Park somewhere else or get there earlier.

Reaqc · 22/11/2022 17:23

You found it intimidating being shouted at, so you're going to deliberately wind up the aggressive shouting man. That will go down well I'm sure.

SouperNoodle · 22/11/2022 17:23

You blocked a car in. Why are your needs more important than theirs? You are the asshole in this situation.

Legallypinkish · 22/11/2022 17:24

Well legally you are right but ffs just park somewhere else. Dropped curbs are ridiculously expensive and there’s a long wait for them. Just be a good person and stop parking there. It’s not all about what is legal and what isn’t.

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