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AIBU?

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To keep parking in front of this "drive"?

342 replies

Droppingthekerb · 22/11/2022 15:40

Sorry it's a long one. I'll start off by saying that due to mobility issues I do drive my children to school which is about 1.5 miles from our house. I do not however qualify for a blue badge.

There are several residential streets near the school where people park to take kids to the school. I imagine it is annoying for the people who live there but there are no restrictions on the road in terms of yellow lines etc and generally I'd say people are respectful of the residents. There are a couple of cars who park overhanging the yellow zigzags and some on bends but for the most part people park at the side of the road and don't block driveways. Dropped kerbs are marked with white lines so it is clear where it is ok to park.

I tend to park on the street one up from the school as usually it is quieter and there's more chance of getting a space. Until recently there was a house on the street that had fallen into disrepair with an overgrown front garden. Over the last couple of months there have been tradespeople coming and doing up the house and now the front garden has been paved over. About 2 weeks ago I parked in front of this house and a man came running out of the house opposite shouting at me that I couldn't park there as I was blocking a drive. I had my kids with me and told him I did not appreciate being shouted at in front of them especially as there was no dropped kerb so it wasn't a driveway. There wasn't a car parked on it either. He stormed off back into his house.

A few days later I saw the space was available and as it was raining there were a lot of extra cars on the school run so spots were at a premium. I parked there again and returned to a note on my car not to block driveways.

I don't park there every time as there are other spaces available often before I get to that spot but last week I was running late for pick up and noticed the space was free again - I was feeling a bit petty too by this point. However, there was a police officer speaking to drivers about their parking to ensure it was safe as it was near a school. I parked there and the police officer stopped me and said she'd had a complaint about people blocking the drive. I pointed out there was no dropped kerb and she immediately said, "Oh, you're absolutely right. Carry on."

This morning it was again the only available space but today there was a car on the drive and seemingly new residents. I parked up as usual to find the man from the house opposite screaming at me again in front of my kids that I was blocking the drive and now the new resident of the house coming out to join in. I tried to keep my cool but it is quite intimidating having 2 men shouting at you in public especially with young children. I said I needed to get the kids to school but they were misinformed if they thought it was a drive as it didn't have a dropped kerb and actually he was in the wrong for driving his car over the pedestrian footpath. Neither of them were listening though as they just kept shouting over the top of me.

When I came back to my car he had taken a photo of it and then a photo of me and told me he was reporting me to the police. I again tried to explain about the lack of dropped kerb and he flat out told me that was not true, that he had the right to create a driveway whereever he wanted and that actually parking on the street full stop (driveway or no driveway) was against the law and he should know because he is a lawyer. I told him he was speaking rubbish and to look on the council website as it is very clear.

Up to now I've parked in other spots if they have been available but AIBU to keep parking in front of this "drive" just to make a point because they have pissed me off?

OP posts:
vivainsomnia · 22/11/2022 16:21

God, people like you are just a plague to society. Fair enough to park there when the house looked inhabited, but once there was a car in the driveway, it became obvious you were blocking a resident.

Drop curve or not, what a bitchy thing to do with that typical entitlement if some school mums who don't give a car for others and think their needs are more important than anyone else.

You're just totally inconsiderate and self centered.

AdoraBell · 22/11/2022 16:22

Take a picture of the curb and of the men shouting, preferably a video of them shouting.

Personally I would avoid parking there again due to the aggression from the 2 men, but you can decide for yourself because it’s not a dropped curb and because a police officer said you were correct and to carry on.

Pixiedust1234 · 22/11/2022 16:23

Report nondrop kerb house to the council for not having a dropped kerb.

Report both men to the police for intimidation especially since the police have already said you were fine legally.

Don't deliberately park in front of the house but if its the only space left then park there. Dont engage with the dicks, just be civil.

User135792468 · 22/11/2022 16:24

You keep parking there so you are looking for a row and are being a class a knob just to try and prove a point. Why would you put your children through that if it’s as bad as it sounds? I’m sure your car will have a scratch or something on it soon. Stop deliberately pissing people off and park elsewhere.

WeBuiltThisBuffetOnSausageRoll · 22/11/2022 16:25

Park further away. Do not block people's access to their homes.

But it's not blocking access to their home - just stopping them from illegally putting their car on the front garden/yard. No different legally than if they wanted to bump a full shopping trolley or a tricycle up the pavement to get it to their property.

Brefugee · 22/11/2022 16:25

Them shouting isn't good. Get your camer out next time and film them.
Take photos of your car and the non-dropped kerb, just in case.

But. Now you know there are people parking on that drive, it would be a bit dickish to keep parking there, unfortunately.

NewStartIn50s · 22/11/2022 16:25

I'm surprised you found a police officer checking parking. Where we are people drive through no entry signs to rat run, up one way streets and park anywhere near the school I drop off at (it's not a 'rough' area either).

Veenah · 22/11/2022 16:27

Someone above said people near schools can be "odd" about parking and if they knew it was near a school they should accept the school run. I lived somewhere with a similar issue, not a school but similar scenario. Even if you're aware of it before buying and accept that a lot of people will be parking on your road, what you're not prepared for is the sheer number of entitled arseholes who block you in, or make it very difficult to get out of your drive, or park entirely on the footpath while people with mobility issues or buggies try to get past.

Rather than residents being "odd", I think it's that you eventually lose patience and develop a zero tolerance attitude to the "I'll only be a few minutes" brigade.

Floomobal · 22/11/2022 16:27

ZealAndArdour · 22/11/2022 15:48

Regardless of the dropped kerb, why is it more important than the fruit of your womb get to school than these people have access to get in and out of their drive?

I’ve never heard anything so entitled!

It’s not a drive

vivainsomnia · 22/11/2022 16:29

And I think you are getting the law wrong anyway.

Rule 243 of the Highway Code states: 'Do not stop or park in front of an entrance to a property except when forced to do so by stationary traffic.'

The issue with the drop kerb is that THEY shouldn't go over the pavement. Not having one doesn't give you the right to block someone.

HeraldicBlazoning · 22/11/2022 16:29

ZealAndArdour · 22/11/2022 15:48

Regardless of the dropped kerb, why is it more important than the fruit of your womb get to school than these people have access to get in and out of their drive?

I’ve never heard anything so entitled!

But it was raining and they might get - shock, horror - WET!!! There must be so many children round this way, and parents, who melt in the rain as a wee bit of drizzle sees complete gridlock in my street as parents try to beat each other to the closest spot.

Despite there being a 50 space car park 3 minutes walk up the road.

WeepingSomnambulist · 22/11/2022 16:31

There was a similar saga here with this. They didnt want to pay for a dropped kerb but were forever out shouting at people. Loads of complaints to the police and the council, who all did nothing because it wasnt a drive

Until... the council were doing the area up and installed new street signs and the post for the new sign was on the pavement in the middle of this guys "drive."

We all think they did it because they were fed up of his complaints and then ignoring it when told he had to pay for a dropped kerb etc.

LindseyHoyleSpeaks · 22/11/2022 16:32

It’s not a drive, it’s a paved over bit of grass. A garden with aspirations, as it were. Park there until he gets a proper dropped kerb put in! What a dick he is.

WeBuiltThisBuffetOnSausageRoll · 22/11/2022 16:32

The issue with the drop kerb is that THEY shouldn't go over the pavement. Not having one doesn't give you the right to block someone.

How are you actually meant to know that a property's front might be used for parking (assuming there's no car parked there when you park)?

Hont1986 · 22/11/2022 16:32

I was mostly with you up until you blocked someone in on their drive. If you did that on my street, you'd come back to find a nice new racing stripe in your paintwork.

WeepingSomnambulist · 22/11/2022 16:34

Hont1986 · 22/11/2022 16:32

I was mostly with you up until you blocked someone in on their drive. If you did that on my street, you'd come back to find a nice new racing stripe in your paintwork.

But it isnt a drive. They are illegally crossing the pavement to stick their car in their garden, which they happened to pave over. Not a drive.

StrictlyAFemaleFemale · 22/11/2022 16:34

What's the point of having rules and legislation if big burly men can just shout and intimidate and get their way? The police officer said carry on. If they want her to stop parking there then they can apply to get the curb dropped.

Booklover3 · 22/11/2022 16:35

I wouldn’t park there because of the aggro. Wouldn’t particularly want my kids exposed to it. It just feels like this is escalating with their behaviour and who knows what might happen next.

LittleBrownRug · 22/11/2022 16:35

Oh get a hobby OP.....or a job

Headabovetheparakeet · 22/11/2022 16:36

If you had really felt intimidated by them then why would you be considering parking there on purpose just to be petty?

I'm not even sure this really happened.

WeBuiltThisBuffetOnSausageRoll · 22/11/2022 16:37

There was a similar saga here with this. They didnt want to pay for a dropped kerb but were forever out shouting at people. Loads of complaints to the police and the council, who all did nothing because it wasnt a drive

I think that's what would jar with me in this scenario, too - the man could quite reasonably have come out and said "The people who live there bump their car up and park on the front, so would you mind leaving that bit of road clear for them, please" but instead, he came out shouting and demanding.

I was mostly with you up until you blocked someone in on their drive. If you did that on my street, you'd come back to find a nice new racing stripe in your paintwork.

So are you saying that you condone the vandalism when somebody parks on the public road in front of somebody's garden?

Billyhargrovesmullet · 22/11/2022 16:37

You are being unreasonable as they’re using it as a drive and you’re putting your kids in the big chance of having emotional distress caused to them by their mother keep being shouted at infront of them

Whalesong · 22/11/2022 16:40

I wouldn’t risk parking there again, but you could report him to the council. There are also restrictions about paving over front gardens which prevents rain water from reaching the ground water so his “drive” may not even be legal.

sheepdogdelight · 22/11/2022 16:40

You make a point of saying in your OP that people are respectful of the residents.
Parking in front of this man's house, whether or not you are legally entitled to do so, knowing that he has asked you not to and it is inconveniencing him, is hardly being respectful.

AtomicRitual · 22/11/2022 16:41

I'm amazed I may get to be the first to say:

It's not a driveway - it's a patio with aspirations!

As you know, and the police officer confirmed, you are perfectly entitled to park there.

If there are other options, however, I wouldn't be so petty as to park there, just to avoid an argument.

I would report them to the council and the police for driving across the pavement and for being intimidating. If you do have to park there again, have your camera or a dashcam ready to record it. I'd be concerned that they'd damage your car if you parked there again.

I might also send them a printout from your local council's website, through the post, anonymously, pointing out that a dropped kerb is not a driveway.

On balance YANBU, but I don't think it's worth the drama if you have other options.