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Husband went to a lap dancing club as part of stag do and had private dance

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Koala34 · 22/11/2022 11:13

So my husband went on a stag do and went to a lap dancing club and had a private dance which he says his friend paid for. He said he thought I wouldn’t mind (!) We have 2 children one being 4 months old. I feel devastated and I’m not sure how I can get over it. What would you do? I just can’t get the image out of my head. I wish I was ok with it but feel like he’s crossed a line.

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SD1978 · 22/11/2022 17:00

I know it's too late now and I'm sorry, but he should have found out what your hard stops were before he went. He's been honest immediately, but only you know if that's enough for you.

Naunet · 22/11/2022 17:02

MollieMarie · 22/11/2022 16:49

Men are visual creatures, women are not. Women are perfectly capable of seeing an attractive/sexy man stripping without getting turned on, the same couldn't be said for men.

Where do people get this shite from? We are ALL human beings, our primary sense is our vision in both males and females. Primary senses do not vary depending on sex in any species. What you’re doing is parroting excuses men use to justify their sexual entitlement.

KAYMACK · 22/11/2022 17:03

TheNoonBell · 22/11/2022 11:50

DP went on a stag do and had a private dance a few years ago. I knew he was going and wasn't happy about it but it is something expected on stag do's and I trust him to do anything too stupid.

He told me what happened when he got back and said the private dance he had was great but strange as he was basically expected to sit on his hands and a bouncer kept looking in. He was pretty horny as well so we had a very fun time that night.

I couldn't really be too angry as we had been to a strip club together in Thailand to watch the ping pong thing many years ago. That was quite the eye opener and not something I ever want to repeat. Yuck!

I am sorry to ask again, but what does DP mean?

Is it the person himself? Like "Derek Patterson" or "Dwayne Philpott"?

It can't mean "dear parent", can it?

Dat Pa? Or is it local slang?

MollieMarie · 22/11/2022 17:03

MyOtherCarIsAHearse · 22/11/2022 16:59

That men are visual and women are not.

Women are not inherently visual like men are. Women are perfectly capable of seeing a sexy man stripping as just fun/entertainment and not get a sexual response from it, whereas men would pretty much get something sexual out of it every time.

MollieMarie · 22/11/2022 17:06

Naunet · 22/11/2022 17:02

Where do people get this shite from? We are ALL human beings, our primary sense is our vision in both males and females. Primary senses do not vary depending on sex in any species. What you’re doing is parroting excuses men use to justify their sexual entitlement.

I'll rephrase - Women are not inherent visual creatures like men are.

HelsyQ · 22/11/2022 17:06

MollieMarie · 22/11/2022 16:53

How is that relevant?

What lol? How is it not? It’s a direct response to what you said.

Theskyisfallingdown · 22/11/2022 17:06

@KAYMACK ‘dear partner’ so unmarried couple www.mumsnet.com/i/acronyms

Naunet · 22/11/2022 17:06

MollieMarie · 22/11/2022 17:03

Women are not inherently visual like men are. Women are perfectly capable of seeing a sexy man stripping as just fun/entertainment and not get a sexual response from it, whereas men would pretty much get something sexual out of it every time.

Yes they are, because just like men, women are human and our primary sense is our vision. In fact we also have better peripheral vision than men, why would that be if our primary sense is what? Smell? Hearing? What did you think it was for women?

Deadringer · 22/11/2022 17:08

If my dh had a naked/semi woman give him a lap dance it would be the end, whether he had paid for it or not is immaterial, it crosses a line. I don't understand how we have gotten to a place as a society where it is remotely acceptable for women to be entertainment for sleazy men who want sexual kicks outside of their relationship.

MollieMarie · 22/11/2022 17:09

Naunet · 22/11/2022 17:06

Yes they are, because just like men, women are human and our primary sense is our vision. In fact we also have better peripheral vision than men, why would that be if our primary sense is what? Smell? Hearing? What did you think it was for women?

Obviously women see attractive features in men FFS, but men are MUCH more visual than women are. I'm not saying all women are blind, just that men are inherently visual creatures in a way that women are not.

ZL2014 · 22/11/2022 17:09

Hmmm, my husband on his stag do got taken to a lap dancing club. He knows that I’m not comfortable with him going out with his friends as there’s been some very dubious stories about the others and not being faithful. However, I have never trusted anyone like him and can certainly say I 100% trust him.

He told me about it the following morning and I was completely shocked when he told me that they get their “downstairs” out and had it inches from his face 🤢. I was incredibly uncomfortable with knowing this (I’m a bit of a prude anyway - just to add). I must admit even now it turns my stomach but I couldn’t believe that he actually told me, in the strangest way I was actually flattered that he did as would have been so easy not to say anything. He knew I wasn’t happy and said that he’s not interested in anything like that and wouldn’t go again.

I think it’s all up to you, how you feel and if you think it’s something you can get over. The way you feel is not wrong at all.

For me, as much as I didn’t like it, I know it was his friends that pushed him into it and I know that he has never and would never do anything behind my back. I also know that he wouldn’t go again. X

HelsyQ · 22/11/2022 17:10

MollieMarie · 22/11/2022 17:03

Women are not inherently visual like men are. Women are perfectly capable of seeing a sexy man stripping as just fun/entertainment and not get a sexual response from it, whereas men would pretty much get something sexual out of it every time.

This is so untrue.

MollieMarie · 22/11/2022 17:10

HelsyQ · 22/11/2022 17:10

This is so untrue.

Which part?

Naunet · 22/11/2022 17:12

MollieMarie · 22/11/2022 17:09

Obviously women see attractive features in men FFS, but men are MUCH more visual than women are. I'm not saying all women are blind, just that men are inherently visual creatures in a way that women are not.

Right and you have scientific proof to back this claim up do you? What do you think women’s primary sense is? Why would it differ between the sexes when it doesn’t in any other species? Why do women have better peripheral vision than men, when apparently vision in not women’s primary sense? Please do explain.

Or, just for one second, consider that you’re parroting utter nonsense pushed by men.

CarefreeMe · 22/11/2022 17:12

This would not be an issue for me but it’s ok that it’s an issue for you.

However, he was not to know that this would cause you so much upset so you cannot blame him for it either.

I would just tell him how you feel and ask him not to do it again.

You can’t do much about the images in your head but I think if you think about how he didn’t do it intentionally to hurt you, it might help a bit.

HelsyQ · 22/11/2022 17:13

MollieMarie · 22/11/2022 17:10

Which part?

That men are not capable of it and women are. It’s just your own insecurities shining through.

MollieMarie · 22/11/2022 17:14

Naunet · 22/11/2022 17:12

Right and you have scientific proof to back this claim up do you? What do you think women’s primary sense is? Why would it differ between the sexes when it doesn’t in any other species? Why do women have better peripheral vision than men, when apparently vision in not women’s primary sense? Please do explain.

Or, just for one second, consider that you’re parroting utter nonsense pushed by men.

Sorry I don't think we're on the same page here. When I say men are visual creatures I mean in terms of viewing women sexually. I'm not saying men have better eyesight than women.

MollieMarie · 22/11/2022 17:16

HelsyQ · 22/11/2022 17:13

That men are not capable of it and women are. It’s just your own insecurities shining through.

I thought you wanted to have a discussion here? Weren't you complaining about insults and personal attacks earlier but now you're doing the exact same thing?

MyOtherCarIsAHearse · 22/11/2022 17:17

MollieMarie · 22/11/2022 17:03

Women are not inherently visual like men are. Women are perfectly capable of seeing a sexy man stripping as just fun/entertainment and not get a sexual response from it, whereas men would pretty much get something sexual out of it every time.

Again, bullshit.

LemonDrop22 · 22/11/2022 17:17

PumpkinQueens · 22/11/2022 11:46

If this bothers you so much why didn’t you have the conversation before he went out? It’s an odd thing to fail to discuss before and then want to bring up first thing the next day.

Cause she didn't think he'd do that??

HelsyQ · 22/11/2022 17:18

MollieMarie · 22/11/2022 17:16

I thought you wanted to have a discussion here? Weren't you complaining about insults and personal attacks earlier but now you're doing the exact same thing?

Sorry, I apologise if that came across as personal, I’m not sure of a kind way to say you’re projecting. Insulting you was not my intention though.

MollieMarie · 22/11/2022 17:18

MyOtherCarIsAHearse · 22/11/2022 17:17

Again, bullshit.

And yet you and others can't seem to explain why or how it's 'bullshit'.

LemonDrop22 · 22/11/2022 17:19

Women are not inherently visual like men are. Women are perfectly capable of seeing a sexy man stripping as just fun/entertainment and not get a sexual response from it, whereas men would pretty much get something sexual out of it every time.

Depends entirely on the person.

Naunet · 22/11/2022 17:19

MollieMarie · 22/11/2022 17:14

Sorry I don't think we're on the same page here. When I say men are visual creatures I mean in terms of viewing women sexually. I'm not saying men have better eyesight than women.

Right, well if you’re talking about what turns men on and what turns women on, that’s a completely different thing. I think that’s a hard one to judge though seeing as women’s sexuality has been controlled by men throughout most of our history. They used to put us in institutions for even having an orgasm! Even now, women’s sexuality is being influenced by porn made for men, so who truly knows?

Suggesting men are visual creatures and women aren’t though, is unscientific rubbish. It’s like suggesting male dogs have smell as their primary sense, but female dogs don’t, it’s nonsense.

MyOtherCarIsAHearse · 22/11/2022 17:19

MollieMarie · 22/11/2022 17:18

And yet you and others can't seem to explain why or how it's 'bullshit'.

I already did. I’m not going downstairs, getting my laptop out and trawling through my bookmarks to find the science to appease you. I already KNOW.