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Husband went to a lap dancing club as part of stag do and had private dance

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Koala34 · 22/11/2022 11:13

So my husband went on a stag do and went to a lap dancing club and had a private dance which he says his friend paid for. He said he thought I wouldn’t mind (!) We have 2 children one being 4 months old. I feel devastated and I’m not sure how I can get over it. What would you do? I just can’t get the image out of my head. I wish I was ok with it but feel like he’s crossed a line.

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Creativecake · 23/11/2022 05:40

DH did this. I was upset at the time and told him so. We had a full and frank discussion. I was angry for a while. We got over it. The marriage was otherwise fine.

jeaux90 · 23/11/2022 05:51

It's a shock to realise what your DH really thinks about women.

That he thinks we are there for his sexual gratification.

That he's supporting a trade that traffics young girls and women.

That he's supporting an industry where sexual assaults increase by 50% within a 1KM of.

He's shown you this and how entitled he feels he is to our bodies.

I'd be disgusted.

I'm with my DP who when I met him didn't know the above. Men and women are socialised differently of course unfortunately. Now he knows this he wouldn't ever use a club like this because he now has better principles.

If he did it would be a deal breaker.

ArcticSkewer · 23/11/2022 06:16

For the women whose partners did this and they forgave them, what did you imagine happened at a private dance?

It's a bit like a massage with a happy ending.

In some ways, it's mainly just a massage.
But in one very important way, it's just sex dressed up as something else.
I'm not sure women understand quite what it is they are forgiving. Why do you think it's private?

TheaBrandt · 23/11/2022 06:25

Oh and I am not naive thanks to my ex who was very open about what his peers got up to. One stag he went to on a boat they had strippers but they were actually prostitutes and most of the men fucked them. Family men / legal profession.

girlmom21 · 23/11/2022 06:43

As far as DW was concerned, just like the OP here, this was a major thing, irrespective of the fact that I couldn’t remember half of it.

Would it be ok if she went home with another man and slept in his bed but didn't really remember it?

You say her idea and your reality were very different but how can you know that if you can't remember what happened?

You can't blame your friends for your shitty, creepy decisions.

electricmoccasins · 23/11/2022 06:44

HaveYouSeenNancy · 22/11/2022 12:07

I honestly don't understand why this is considered a normal activity on a stag do. It's just such a horrible, horrible thing to do, even more so if you're in a relationship.

Because it plays into the longstanding idea that men don't really want to marry. That they are being forced into it by society /women. That they are giving up their freedom. For those attending who are already married or in longstanding relationships, it gives them the opportunity to step back into singledom for a night in the name of some sort of perverted nostalgia before they were 'ball and chained'. Ah, the forbidden fruit of 'other women' that they can't access now due to 'her indoors'. The whole thing is pure misogyny and Peter Pam syndrome.

Creativecake · 23/11/2022 06:54

ArcticSkewer · 23/11/2022 06:16

For the women whose partners did this and they forgave them, what did you imagine happened at a private dance?

It's a bit like a massage with a happy ending.

In some ways, it's mainly just a massage.
But in one very important way, it's just sex dressed up as something else.
I'm not sure women understand quite what it is they are forgiving. Why do you think it's private?

Actually my DH didn’t have a private dance. He was at a lap dancing club though.

I don’t ‘forgive him’. I just moved on

Jenny3412 · 23/11/2022 06:55

Richielogic · 23/11/2022 03:53

YABU

I think this is the difference between the female and the male perspective. I really feel sorry for the OP’s husband and the over reaction here is at best ridiculous.

In 1999 I was in her husbands exact same position, on my stag night the group of guys I was with dragged me to a club after a pub crawl. I was absolutely smashed but they still took me, and they paid a girl to dance for me. There was strictly a no touching rule, this is how it is in these clubs.

I told my wife after about the events of the night and about the situation and she went berserk.

As far as DW was concerned, just like the OP here, this was a major thing, irrespective of the fact that I couldn’t remember half of it. I was just the same as OP’s husband, I was like, if the girls took you to a male strip club, I would not react like this and she was like “yes, but they don’t shove a pussy in your face” she was hell angry

My perception was it was no big thing, I was not cheating on her, I was not having sex with the dancer, frankly I was so smashed I couldn’t even remember half of it, I couldn’t even recall what she looked like, was she blonde, brunette, let alone what a flash of her might have looked like, IDK? it meant absolutely nothing whatsoever to me V DW who had all kinds of images in her head, was over exaggerating things and mind going ten to the dozen imagining all kind of things that were just not reality. Her perception of what a dance is, and my experience in reality were VERY different. These girls are doing two min strip dances on a constant cycle, guy after guy, to clear as much cash as they can in as shortest possible time. Half the guys don’t know what’s hit them its all so quick. Perhaps DW had seen some program of some footballer having some full hands on experience and sex with one, IDK but as I say DWs imagination and my reality were poles apart.

Anyhow, I was reminded of this dam event for probably the first ten years of married life. It got on my nerves frankly whenever it was brought up. Its all very good here the feminists baiting the OP and telling her to dump him etc but he’s probably a dam good guy, loves her and just caught up in a crap situation and unlikely to repeat it.

I can tell you I love my wife unconditionally and I am still married to her, she is my absolute world and I have never done or been in a situation like that since. I am annoyed at the guys that dragged me that club and yes, the lads with your DH could have behaved better, they could have stood by him better and not taken him to an adult club, could of, would have, should have, BUT it happened.

Your DH will learn from this, is unlikely to repeat it and my advice is to move on from it. Just forget the situation, it will mean absolutely nothing to your husband I can tell you. I have been married 24 years this year, two children at university now and it’s been fantastic, I have never done anything like that stag night since. Don’t let your anger of this silly event spoil your future.

Only YOU know what your guy is like, if he was out every night, on tinder or whatever meeting other girls and having affairs or visiting prostitutes sure dump him but he’s not. He ended up in a foolish situation, it happens. You have made your point, so I say give him a hug and tell him not to be so stupid in the future, back your man, be supportive, let it go. Life is far too short.

Good luck to you for your future married life, live. Love and leave a legacy together.

This is spot on. Sounds like a guy who matured to make better decisions.

Dont ditch an immature guy only to see him mature with someone else.

ArcticSkewer · 23/11/2022 07:14

Creativecake · 23/11/2022 06:54

Actually my DH didn’t have a private dance. He was at a lap dancing club though.

I don’t ‘forgive him’. I just moved on

Ah, so when you say your dh did this, he didn't do that? Or at the very least, that's your belief and what he says.

I think the op has more of a problem as her partner had a private dance, apparently paid for by generous friends. There's a reason why they are private. Things go further than in public areas, which is the whole point of it being private.

ArcticSkewer · 23/11/2022 07:17

Jenny3412 · 23/11/2022 06:55

This is spot on. Sounds like a guy who matured to make better decisions.

Dont ditch an immature guy only to see him mature with someone else.

This man can't actually remember what he did or didn't do.

He probably did fondle a naked woman while she sat on his clothed erect dick at the very least.

No wonder his wife was pissed off. I hope she had an affair at some point to even things up and that's why she felt able to move past it. Karma.

Mobydickssister · 23/11/2022 07:17

@Jenny3412 Dont ditch an immature guy only to see him mature with someone else.

Whaaat?

If a guy is mature enough to get married and create 2 DCs then he's mature enough not to bow to peer pressure and doesn't get a pass-out act like an irresponsible teenager.

And what's all this with stag nights and strip clubs anyway?

I must live in a parallel universe because the stag events I know about involved paint-balling, clay pigeon shooting, off-roading with quad bikes and other sporty pursuits.

feistymumma · 23/11/2022 07:23

curvymumma79 · 22/11/2022 13:18

To be honest, it wouldn't bother me. Other than a good old perv at the dancer, he wouldn't of been able to touch.

This! I wouldn't be bothered either.

Grumpybutfunny · 23/11/2022 07:29

We went to a drag show for my hen party that started with lap dances off the male (hot) waiters, DH really didn't care and laughed his arse off when the pictures were shared. I honestly wouldn't bat an eyelid at DH having a private dance on a stag party if it become a monthly things etc that's the line for me.

ArcticSkewer · 23/11/2022 07:39

feistymumma · 23/11/2022 07:23

This! I wouldn't be bothered either.

of course he would ... or almost certainly could!
That's what a private dance is!
The totally naked with (at least) touching part.

If it's abroad or a more seedy UK club (or you pay more) it's also hand job or full sex.

It's very similar to a massage/happy ending. If you are ok with that then a private dance with bit of fingering and perhaps a wank is along the same lines.

To be fair, op's h has told her he sat on his hands, so touching was offered but he refused. If she chooses to believe he refused then I guess it is more in the 'twerking' territory.

MyOtherCarIsAHearse · 23/11/2022 07:52

Richielogic · 23/11/2022 03:53

YABU

I think this is the difference between the female and the male perspective. I really feel sorry for the OP’s husband and the over reaction here is at best ridiculous.

In 1999 I was in her husbands exact same position, on my stag night the group of guys I was with dragged me to a club after a pub crawl. I was absolutely smashed but they still took me, and they paid a girl to dance for me. There was strictly a no touching rule, this is how it is in these clubs.

I told my wife after about the events of the night and about the situation and she went berserk.

As far as DW was concerned, just like the OP here, this was a major thing, irrespective of the fact that I couldn’t remember half of it. I was just the same as OP’s husband, I was like, if the girls took you to a male strip club, I would not react like this and she was like “yes, but they don’t shove a pussy in your face” she was hell angry

My perception was it was no big thing, I was not cheating on her, I was not having sex with the dancer, frankly I was so smashed I couldn’t even remember half of it, I couldn’t even recall what she looked like, was she blonde, brunette, let alone what a flash of her might have looked like, IDK? it meant absolutely nothing whatsoever to me V DW who had all kinds of images in her head, was over exaggerating things and mind going ten to the dozen imagining all kind of things that were just not reality. Her perception of what a dance is, and my experience in reality were VERY different. These girls are doing two min strip dances on a constant cycle, guy after guy, to clear as much cash as they can in as shortest possible time. Half the guys don’t know what’s hit them its all so quick. Perhaps DW had seen some program of some footballer having some full hands on experience and sex with one, IDK but as I say DWs imagination and my reality were poles apart.

Anyhow, I was reminded of this dam event for probably the first ten years of married life. It got on my nerves frankly whenever it was brought up. Its all very good here the feminists baiting the OP and telling her to dump him etc but he’s probably a dam good guy, loves her and just caught up in a crap situation and unlikely to repeat it.

I can tell you I love my wife unconditionally and I am still married to her, she is my absolute world and I have never done or been in a situation like that since. I am annoyed at the guys that dragged me that club and yes, the lads with your DH could have behaved better, they could have stood by him better and not taken him to an adult club, could of, would have, should have, BUT it happened.

Your DH will learn from this, is unlikely to repeat it and my advice is to move on from it. Just forget the situation, it will mean absolutely nothing to your husband I can tell you. I have been married 24 years this year, two children at university now and it’s been fantastic, I have never done anything like that stag night since. Don’t let your anger of this silly event spoil your future.

Only YOU know what your guy is like, if he was out every night, on tinder or whatever meeting other girls and having affairs or visiting prostitutes sure dump him but he’s not. He ended up in a foolish situation, it happens. You have made your point, so I say give him a hug and tell him not to be so stupid in the future, back your man, be supportive, let it go. Life is far too short.

Good luck to you for your future married life, live. Love and leave a legacy together.

Sure. Because all men have zero independence or ability to make decisions that their friends aren’t making for them, right? All you’ve done in your comment is show your utter disregard for your partner.

Jenny3412 · 23/11/2022 08:12

Guys, seriously. If you were on a hen do and went to a male strip show with naked waiters it would have been a laugh. Come on this is not worth another breath.

girlmom21 · 23/11/2022 08:14

Jenny3412 · 23/11/2022 08:12

Guys, seriously. If you were on a hen do and went to a male strip show with naked waiters it would have been a laugh. Come on this is not worth another breath.

It's not a laugh though, it's creepy. And it's still a completely different scenario.

Isitsixoclockalready · 23/11/2022 08:18

ArcticSkewer · 23/11/2022 07:17

This man can't actually remember what he did or didn't do.

He probably did fondle a naked woman while she sat on his clothed erect dick at the very least.

No wonder his wife was pissed off. I hope she had an affair at some point to even things up and that's why she felt able to move past it. Karma.

Or maybe maintain her own morals instead of passing on the grief to someone else who didn't deserve it.

HeadNorth · 23/11/2022 08:24

user1480607331 · 22/11/2022 22:39

This is actually quite hilarious, aside from the anguish of the OP. The amount of 'my DP or DH would never' self-righteous responses is brilliant. I'd wager at least 90% have already been or will in the future.

I suspect we mix in very different circles - 'laddishness' is not the norm for the men I spend my time with. Not all men are pub going, beer swilling, footie watching, down with lads, grisly stag types. In fact, I have made a point in life of avoiding such men.

HeadNorth · 23/11/2022 08:26

Grumpybutfunny · 23/11/2022 07:29

We went to a drag show for my hen party that started with lap dances off the male (hot) waiters, DH really didn't care and laughed his arse off when the pictures were shared. I honestly wouldn't bat an eyelid at DH having a private dance on a stag party if it become a monthly things etc that's the line for me.

DH & I would both find that horrific. I would have left, in any case. Different people can obviously have very different lives, please don't normalise such grimness by assuming everyone would be OK with it.

Megifer · 23/11/2022 08:28

Richielogic · 23/11/2022 03:53

YABU

I think this is the difference between the female and the male perspective. I really feel sorry for the OP’s husband and the over reaction here is at best ridiculous.

In 1999 I was in her husbands exact same position, on my stag night the group of guys I was with dragged me to a club after a pub crawl. I was absolutely smashed but they still took me, and they paid a girl to dance for me. There was strictly a no touching rule, this is how it is in these clubs.

I told my wife after about the events of the night and about the situation and she went berserk.

As far as DW was concerned, just like the OP here, this was a major thing, irrespective of the fact that I couldn’t remember half of it. I was just the same as OP’s husband, I was like, if the girls took you to a male strip club, I would not react like this and she was like “yes, but they don’t shove a pussy in your face” she was hell angry

My perception was it was no big thing, I was not cheating on her, I was not having sex with the dancer, frankly I was so smashed I couldn’t even remember half of it, I couldn’t even recall what she looked like, was she blonde, brunette, let alone what a flash of her might have looked like, IDK? it meant absolutely nothing whatsoever to me V DW who had all kinds of images in her head, was over exaggerating things and mind going ten to the dozen imagining all kind of things that were just not reality. Her perception of what a dance is, and my experience in reality were VERY different. These girls are doing two min strip dances on a constant cycle, guy after guy, to clear as much cash as they can in as shortest possible time. Half the guys don’t know what’s hit them its all so quick. Perhaps DW had seen some program of some footballer having some full hands on experience and sex with one, IDK but as I say DWs imagination and my reality were poles apart.

Anyhow, I was reminded of this dam event for probably the first ten years of married life. It got on my nerves frankly whenever it was brought up. Its all very good here the feminists baiting the OP and telling her to dump him etc but he’s probably a dam good guy, loves her and just caught up in a crap situation and unlikely to repeat it.

I can tell you I love my wife unconditionally and I am still married to her, she is my absolute world and I have never done or been in a situation like that since. I am annoyed at the guys that dragged me that club and yes, the lads with your DH could have behaved better, they could have stood by him better and not taken him to an adult club, could of, would have, should have, BUT it happened.

Your DH will learn from this, is unlikely to repeat it and my advice is to move on from it. Just forget the situation, it will mean absolutely nothing to your husband I can tell you. I have been married 24 years this year, two children at university now and it’s been fantastic, I have never done anything like that stag night since. Don’t let your anger of this silly event spoil your future.

Only YOU know what your guy is like, if he was out every night, on tinder or whatever meeting other girls and having affairs or visiting prostitutes sure dump him but he’s not. He ended up in a foolish situation, it happens. You have made your point, so I say give him a hug and tell him not to be so stupid in the future, back your man, be supportive, let it go. Life is far too short.

Good luck to you for your future married life, live. Love and leave a legacy together.

Thank god a man arrived to tell us his manly view 🙄

I man loosely of course, not much of a man if you couldn't just say no to your mates. I'd expect that behaviour from a young teen trying to fit in, not an actual man.

I pity your wife you sound very weak and pathetic. Give him a hug? Fuck that.

Megifer · 23/11/2022 08:28

*use man loosely

DrManhattan · 23/11/2022 08:39

@Richielogic he didn't get 'caught up in a bad situation '. No one had a gun to his head, he could have just left. Everyone's view is different but if you give a pass on this what else is he gonna do.

Onnabugeisha · 23/11/2022 08:59

ArcticSkewer · 23/11/2022 06:16

For the women whose partners did this and they forgave them, what did you imagine happened at a private dance?

It's a bit like a massage with a happy ending.

In some ways, it's mainly just a massage.
But in one very important way, it's just sex dressed up as something else.
I'm not sure women understand quite what it is they are forgiving. Why do you think it's private?

You don’t get a “massage and happy ending” or a “massage” at a private lap dance! Many of my friends at Uni were strippers and there’s very little touching from them and none from the men.

Clymene · 23/11/2022 09:02

starlight1011 · 23/11/2022 02:42

Hi, I used to be a lap dancer back in the day and unfortunately it is most definitely cheating if the guy isn’t single. During the private dance the girl strips completely naked and although the guy isn’t technically allowed to touch there is touching involved because the girl is usually sitting on him grinding and sometimes the club may turn a blind eye to some other touching and stuff going on. Obviously some women are ok with their partner visiting these clubs etc but knowing what I know, I would definitely see it as cheating.

This ex lap dancer would disagree @Onnabugeisha