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16 year old in hospital, adult mixed ward.

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Teenangels · 18/11/2022 13:58

My daughter and I are currently sitting on a chair in the waiting area, to be taken up to a ward, she is 16 only just and been diagnosed with an appendicitis, she has been given morphine, so is sleepy and

I have been told that she will be going up to an adult mixed ward to wait for surgery and that I am not allowed to go up with her.

I am actually furious that my 16 year old will be surrounded by adult men, she is a child how is this allowed to happen.

In my eyes she is still a child, she can't get married (without my permission) but can be treated as a child.

AIBU and over reacting or AINBU to feel she is being totally let down.

OP posts:
MeyerLemon · 18/11/2022 21:54

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Yes you are. The one where people are cold and cruel.

cafenoirbiscuit · 18/11/2022 21:55

Kr1st1n37374 · 18/11/2022 21:32

cafenoirbiscuit

You’re really not classed as an adult by the NHS at 16,it’s 18.

You are an adult at 16 in the NHS
you’re an adult at 18 in the eyes of social services.
and you can stay in education till 19

antelopevalley · 18/11/2022 21:56

@QuebecBagnet That does not give enough information. It does say nearly half are on psychiatric units - safeguarding on mental health units as I said earlier is a national disgrace. It also includes sexual assaults on staff. There is a major issue with male patients groping nurses and HCAs and similar. Lots of men receiving care take the opportunity to sexually assault staff.

ButterCrackers · 18/11/2022 21:57

Why isn’t she going to the paediatric ward? The hospital has a duty of care. You need to be with her because she is a child and also you take the care decisions for her.

BadNomad · 18/11/2022 21:59

They might move her to paediatrics after to recover. If not, you should be able to stay with her on the adult ward.

MrsOvertonsWindow · 18/11/2022 22:00

antelopevalley · 18/11/2022 21:56

@QuebecBagnet That does not give enough information. It does say nearly half are on psychiatric units - safeguarding on mental health units as I said earlier is a national disgrace. It also includes sexual assaults on staff. There is a major issue with male patients groping nurses and HCAs and similar. Lots of men receiving care take the opportunity to sexually assault staff.

Yet earlier you were falsely arguing that the OP's daughter was at more risk of rape from a male relative in one of your numerous deleted posts?
Maybe if you have no support to offer to a stressed mother you might back away from the the thread and share your odd views elsewhere?

ElBandito · 18/11/2022 22:00

QuebecBagnet · 18/11/2022 21:46

1318 sexual assaults in U.K. hospitals just in 2019. Including rapes. Including child victims. So it can happen. Which is why OP wants to stay

www.lbc.co.uk/news/rape-and-sexual-assault-in-hospitals-has-rocketed/

Those figures are shocking.

Leading · 18/11/2022 22:01

Bloody hell - some of the posts here.

YANBU, at all.

I hope the operation went ok and DD can make a full recovery.

This should not have happened.

Sending un-MN hugs.

Afterfire · 18/11/2022 22:01

I am thinking of you and your daughter. I would feel exactly the same. 💐

antelopevalley · 18/11/2022 22:03

@MrsOvertonsWindow I was referring to the research which does show that.

RewildingAmbridge · 18/11/2022 22:04

I hope the operation went well OP and she's ok.

Kr1st1n37374 · 18/11/2022 22:05

cafenoirbiscuit

You’re thinking of consent. You’re a child until you’re 18 hence paeds wards containing teenagers up to the age of 18.

antelopevalley · 18/11/2022 22:06

Different Trusts have different policies around this. Personally I wish there were enough beds for teenagers to decide themselves if they wanted to be in paeds or an adult ward.

Whydidimarryhim · 18/11/2022 22:06

Hi op I hope the op went ok and your daughter is settled on a ward now.

antelopevalley · 18/11/2022 22:07

OP I assume you can now be with your DD on the ward.

PurpleButterflyWings · 18/11/2022 22:08

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DeathWinsAGolfish · 18/11/2022 22:09

@antelopevalley
Between us in our careers over 30+ years, with DH as an anaesthetist and I as a theatre / anaesthetic nurse, has an anaesthetic room been "too small" to fit a parent in.

PurpleButterflyWings · 18/11/2022 22:09

MeyerLemon · 18/11/2022 21:54

Yes you are. The one where people are cold and cruel.

Beautifully put @MeyerLemon Your post is just nasty @SofiaSoFar

XanaduKira · 18/11/2022 22:10

Hope your DD is ok Op & you get to go back in to be with her.

ArabellaScott · 18/11/2022 22:11

Wishing you and your DD all the best, OP. Hope you hear from her soon.

antelopevalley · 18/11/2022 22:11

@DeathWinsAGolfish I know a parent can physically fit, I have bee there. But it is small.

SigourneyHoward · 18/11/2022 22:11

antelopevalley · 18/11/2022 22:03

@MrsOvertonsWindow I was referring to the research which does show that.

So of the 370 rapes, LBC tell us

Some of the crimes involved the sexual assault or rape of children

How many rapes of children in hospital do you think is acceptable @antelopevalley - perhaps the mothers of those children will be comforted by your helpful suggestion that they were more at risk of rape from their father

user1496146479 · 18/11/2022 22:14

Mellymoon · 18/11/2022 20:25

You are being very unreasonable tbh. There’s staff everywhere in a hospital and cctv. She can pull the curtain round. They mostly don’t do single sex wards because frankly if you are having a life or death emergency and are a man and only females are allowed on the ward with room you going to let him die? Don’t be ridiculous. Also adult men aren’t all predators- probably 99 plus percent aren’t. The NHS is fixing your daughter and saving a life so sit down and let them without giving them aggro.

Biscuit
antelopevalley · 18/11/2022 22:16

@SigourneyHoward None is acceptable obviously. I would bet that the issue is on psychiatric units.

parsniiips · 18/11/2022 22:17

What reason have they given for not allowing a minor to have a parent chaperone them before emergency surgery?

Don't tell me it's still covid Hmm

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