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Partner wants a new dog, I don't: end of the relationship?

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nomorequinoa · 15/11/2022 15:19

We've been together for 22 years. I'm 61, my DP's soon to be 60 and will be retiring in March 2023. I've freelanced from home for many years. DP works in IT as a contractor and has often worked abroad.

18 years ago we rescued our first dog, a young terrier. Soon after that DP took a 12-month contract in the Netherlands and I ended up looking after the dog for at least five days a week, with all the stress of training and caring for a young dog with behavioural issues. He'd come home for a couple of weekends each month and enjoy taking her on long walks, then be off again. Five years after that we mutually agreed to take on another rescue. I continued doing the lion's share of looking after them during the week. I loved them very much, but they were both quite challenging and they too often felt like a tie. Finding a reliable dog-sitter was always a challenge: I lost out on opportunities to go places and do things. The first dog died at 15 in 2017 and the younger one is about to turn 14 is just starting to look a bit stiff and doddery.

A week ago a friend of DP's asked if there was a chance of us rehoming a gorgeous terrier cross. The owners are divorcing and neither is in a position to take the dog. My DP went to see it without consulting me. It's clearly a sweet, much-loved pet and DP has as good as told them we will take it. Apparently he told them he'll just need to talk me round.

I don't want another dog once our current lovely old lad goes. I want us to be able to do all the things we've talked about doing in retirement without the stress of having to look after a dog. I want us to be able to take that three-month trip to South America we've talked about without the worry of dog care. I want to be able to take a last-minute trip away and do spontaneous things without having to factor in a dog. I don't want to have to continue putting on my boots and waterproofs and walking four miles in the cold and rain because the dog needs me to exercise him, as I've done for the last 18 years. I want a break from dog-care routine. DP says I'm making a mountain out of a molehill. He says the dog will be his, he'll walk it twice a day and take responsibility for it. I ask how he'll look after the dog when he's away on his sailing and cycling breaks with his brother and friends. He says he'll put it in kennels. We both know he'll expect me to look after the dog when he's away. He's working on the basis that I'll soften and give in, but I'm not going to. This is a hard, hard no from me.

I'd hoped he'd hear me and agree that once our current lovely boy has gone, we should be able to have at least a five-year break without a dog. Instead he's doubled down. We've never argued much, but in the last few days we've had some really hurtful rows that have made me see him in a new light. We've managed to work our way through things before, but this seems different.

AIBU? Has anyone else been through anything similar? I'd never imagined that it would be a dog that would end our relationship, but I think it might.

OP posts:
Crumpleton · 16/11/2022 22:14

Your DP knows that it's been a dream of yours to travel, some of the journeys with him to.
So by him getting another dog it kind of prevents that from happening in the way you'd like it to.

Wombat27A · 16/11/2022 23:23

He sees a dog in his retirement as he doesn't carry the mental load for it currently.

My DH wants us to cut our pet count down & that's fair enough. I will say, 3 years post him retiring, it's only now he's really understanding how much work there is at home. He was away a lot. It's been a shock. It sounds to me like you really want your freedom.

aquashiv · 16/11/2022 23:51

Life without a dog is no life. So don't ask me.
However if your husband wants a dog it's his dog and stick to your guns

longtompot · 17/11/2022 16:03

nomorequinoa · 16/11/2022 21:33

That’s what he’s not caring about. You want to be able to go to a friends if he goes sailing. You want to be able to go away.

I was away for 10 days last month on my own with friends. DP looked after the dog. I've said this upthread. DP has been home, pretty much, since Covid. I've had plenty of days and weeks off to do my own thing. What I want is the relief of knowing that, once this lovely old boy has gone, I won't have to think about factoring in dog care ever again.

I think the pp means that if he gets the dog, and he is away sailing or cycling, then that means you can't make a spontaneous decision to go away. You being away for 10 days recently was only possible because he was at home to look after your dog.

Your partner is being really unfair in thinking he can just talk you round to get this dog, and getting annoyed with you because you haven't just said oh ok then.

Mirabai · 17/11/2022 16:50

aquashiv · 16/11/2022 23:51

Life without a dog is no life. So don't ask me.
However if your husband wants a dog it's his dog and stick to your guns

I would say that life with a dog is no life - it’s just dog sitting permanently.

JennyNotFromTheBlock · 17/11/2022 17:46

Mirabai · 17/11/2022 16:50

I would say that life with a dog is no life - it’s just dog sitting permanently.

Agreed. And as a cat lover I think it would be less of a life without a cat than a dog. Dogs are far too much work and inconvenience, too noisy, stinky etc and from my experience, the reward isn't worth it with dogs.

Bonheurdupasse · 18/11/2022 17:56

How are things OP? Hope you managed to get through to him...

nomorequinoa · 18/11/2022 20:07

We managed to talk about it again yesterday evening, less heatedly. I said what I've said here. That I want freedom from routine. It's clear he wants what he's got now — a dog, a domestic routine and me to cover when he can't be here — in retirement. It's made me realise I don't want that, at least for the first few years. Even if I'm not away travelling or studying or visiting friends for six months of the year, I don't want the expectation that I'll be doing all the domestic duties while I'm here. He seems to think I'll be gardening and decorating and helping him build summer houses etc. These are things I did in the early days when we didn't have much money and we had to do it ourselves, but I'm not planning to be spending my retirement up a ladder with a paint roller unless I feel the desire to do so.

He seems genuinely perplexed that I might not be automatically on the same wavelength as him. He asked if I was serious about leaving if he got the dog and I said yes, I still feel absolutely adamant that I won't be trapped. He said it would be a sad and lonely life I'd leave and I said no, it would be a wonderful life where I could eat what I wanted, get up and go to bed when I wanted and above all not be dictated to by anyone else's needs — his or the dog. He said he couldn't think of anything worse than being on his own. I pointed out that he'd lived on his own for long periods when he was working abroad and he didn't seem to have minded that which pulled him up short. He is still talking about the dog and trying to persuade me that it would be different but I'm not even having to resist. It's just NO. Done that, over it.

OP posts:
ZeldaWillTellYourFortune · 18/11/2022 20:08

Wow, I'm glad you held your ground.

He sounds amazingly oblivious to your wants, needs and preferences.

RandomMess · 18/11/2022 20:12
Confused

He isn't considering your needs and wants is he?

Blind and deaf to what you are saying!

skinnyminnie21 · 18/11/2022 20:13

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Chomolungma · 18/11/2022 20:16

Well done OP - that sounds like a really good conversation. Hopefully he now realises that you're serious about this.

LizzieSiddal · 18/11/2022 20:18

Goodness he’s absolutely not listening to you is he! Is he like this in other areas of your marriage?

LizzieSiddal · 18/11/2022 20:19

Apologies I know you aren’t married, should have said Relationship.

XanaduKira · 18/11/2022 20:30

ZeldaWillTellYourFortune · 18/11/2022 20:08

Wow, I'm glad you held your ground.

He sounds amazingly oblivious to your wants, needs and preferences.

Totally agree. Hope you're ok Op.

BadNomad · 18/11/2022 20:30

He won't be on his own with two dogs.

BlueWalnut · 18/11/2022 20:36

Well done. You have very different retirements in mind. On the basis that you only get one life I would spend your time as you want to. You may find that you miss one another’s company and end up compromising, or you may drift apart, which given his low empathy may not be as terrible as you expect. And who knows, if you travel and do the things you desire you may meet someone who shares the life you envisage.

nomorequinoa · 18/11/2022 20:55

LizzieSiddal · 18/11/2022 20:18

Goodness he’s absolutely not listening to you is he! Is he like this in other areas of your marriage?

No, not really. We've always, I thought, been quite good at negotiating. I thought when we'd discussed retirement plans over the last few years that we were pretty much on the same wavelength. Now I think he envisages retirement as normal domestic routine with more cycling/ sailing/ holidays with me. For me retirement is about binning as much routine and responsibility as possible and living more freely.

OP posts:
aloris · 18/11/2022 21:16

"I don't want the expectation that I'll be doing all the domestic duties while I'm here. He seems to think I'll be gardening and decorating and helping him build summer houses etc."

Oh, well of course. He's the main character in his own life and you're a supporting character in his life. It kinda answers the question why he doesn't seem bothered when he looks after the dog for a week or two while you are on a trip. It's because he most likely sees his time looking after the dog as a temporary thing until you get back and take over primary responsibility for the dog. Just as he thinks you'd be happy spending your retirement helping him build summer houses, he probably thinks you'd be happy spending your retirement looking after his dog. Maybe he doesn't actually perceive your feelings, but only his own feelings about your feelings.

Mirabai · 18/11/2022 21:22

I mean look it’s you or the dog, I’m fairly sure he will choose you but not 100%.

Cameleongirl · 18/11/2022 21:22

I'm not planning to be spending my retirement up a ladder with a paint roller unless I feel the desire to do so.

I can totally relate to this.😂 It’s interesting how long-term partners can have different views of retirement, my DH seems more inclined towards domesticity and DIY than me, although he also wants to travel. I’m not the slightest bit interested in home maintenance in retirement, I want a tiny home and lots of fun activities/travel. I love our dog, but like you, I don’t want another one to tie me down.

marmitetoastie · 19/11/2022 04:44

My friend’s ex took the dog to the shelter & said it had been run-over…….

Chomolungma · 19/11/2022 05:32

There could be a silver lining to this situation OP, if it prompts a series of honest, reflective conversations about your hopes and plans for the next few years.

MavisCruet2023 · 19/11/2022 09:27

Go you, OP.

He sounds like a hugely selfish twat.
I agree with PPs that you are the supporting role to his wants, ego and cock.

I think you'd be better off on your own.

MrsToothyBitch · 19/11/2022 10:04

I would be presenting him with the projected monthly costs of everything to do with HIS dog. The food, the insurance ... and the dog walker and dog sitter he'll need to sort if he wants to do anything because you have made your feelings very clear about owning another dog and you won't be going near it. Then I'd start to crack on with everything you've planned to do and say how much you're looking forward to picking up the pace when the one you've got dies and you're freeeeee.

If he still has ideas about getting another dog, I'd contact the people who introduced the new potential one and send one of the messages earlier up thread saying no way and never again.

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