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Partner wants a new dog, I don't: end of the relationship?

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nomorequinoa · 15/11/2022 15:19

We've been together for 22 years. I'm 61, my DP's soon to be 60 and will be retiring in March 2023. I've freelanced from home for many years. DP works in IT as a contractor and has often worked abroad.

18 years ago we rescued our first dog, a young terrier. Soon after that DP took a 12-month contract in the Netherlands and I ended up looking after the dog for at least five days a week, with all the stress of training and caring for a young dog with behavioural issues. He'd come home for a couple of weekends each month and enjoy taking her on long walks, then be off again. Five years after that we mutually agreed to take on another rescue. I continued doing the lion's share of looking after them during the week. I loved them very much, but they were both quite challenging and they too often felt like a tie. Finding a reliable dog-sitter was always a challenge: I lost out on opportunities to go places and do things. The first dog died at 15 in 2017 and the younger one is about to turn 14 is just starting to look a bit stiff and doddery.

A week ago a friend of DP's asked if there was a chance of us rehoming a gorgeous terrier cross. The owners are divorcing and neither is in a position to take the dog. My DP went to see it without consulting me. It's clearly a sweet, much-loved pet and DP has as good as told them we will take it. Apparently he told them he'll just need to talk me round.

I don't want another dog once our current lovely old lad goes. I want us to be able to do all the things we've talked about doing in retirement without the stress of having to look after a dog. I want us to be able to take that three-month trip to South America we've talked about without the worry of dog care. I want to be able to take a last-minute trip away and do spontaneous things without having to factor in a dog. I don't want to have to continue putting on my boots and waterproofs and walking four miles in the cold and rain because the dog needs me to exercise him, as I've done for the last 18 years. I want a break from dog-care routine. DP says I'm making a mountain out of a molehill. He says the dog will be his, he'll walk it twice a day and take responsibility for it. I ask how he'll look after the dog when he's away on his sailing and cycling breaks with his brother and friends. He says he'll put it in kennels. We both know he'll expect me to look after the dog when he's away. He's working on the basis that I'll soften and give in, but I'm not going to. This is a hard, hard no from me.

I'd hoped he'd hear me and agree that once our current lovely boy has gone, we should be able to have at least a five-year break without a dog. Instead he's doubled down. We've never argued much, but in the last few days we've had some really hurtful rows that have made me see him in a new light. We've managed to work our way through things before, but this seems different.

AIBU? Has anyone else been through anything similar? I'd never imagined that it would be a dog that would end our relationship, but I think it might.

OP posts:
RealBecca · 15/11/2022 19:47

nomorequinoa · 15/11/2022 19:12

I think he thinks 'It's only a dog and we've had dogs for years...'

We've just had a discussion about next weekend. We were going to stay with friends we haven't seen since 2019, but they have just (last couple of days) adopted two kittens and have contacted us to ask us not to bring the dog with us. So now we've got to find someone to look after our dog in our own home or find a hotel/ B+B that will take us and the dog and make short visits (dog left in the car) to our friends — or, more likely, put the visit off. I said to DP 'And you want another 15 years of this with another dog?' He accused me of being negative and stressy and we're having our supper in separate rooms.

Do other people find the shenanigans involved when you don't have close friends or family nearby who'll look after your pets for you really stressful? I think the pressure involved in trying to sort out the logistics of dog-care puts me off organising trips and days out.

Everyone has said pets are a burden.

At your age I'd want to spend every penny on life and volunteer for a shelter instead of worrying about vet bills and dog care.

Go to South America.

Brigante9 · 15/11/2022 20:03

I’m totally with you, OP. We put off a trip to Canada because of covid, then a sick dog, now we’ve got w youngsters and have said we basically won’t have a holiday again. For us, it’s ok, but it’s very limiting. I have nobody to look after them locally, so I pay a dog Walker when I’m at work.

SpottyBalloons · 15/11/2022 21:09

PauliesWalnuts · 15/11/2022 19:25

@SpottyBalloons

Places you can easily take a child but not a dog:
a posh restaurant
a cinema
the supermarket
a pub crawl
an aeroplane
the dentist
the GP
a hospital stay
the gym
local swimming pool
the library
a youth hostel
many uk hotels
lots of air bnbs
RHS gardens

Well yes, but the majority of those things can be done in a reasonable period of time whilst the dog is happily at home. I don't think the OP is being unreasonable, I was just surprised you think a dog is more of a tie than a child. Children require constant supervision!

Mirabai · 15/11/2022 21:11

SpottyBalloons · 15/11/2022 21:09

Well yes, but the majority of those things can be done in a reasonable period of time whilst the dog is happily at home. I don't think the OP is being unreasonable, I was just surprised you think a dog is more of a tie than a child. Children require constant supervision!

Not when they’ve left home.

nomorequinoa · 15/11/2022 21:19

SpottyBalloons · 15/11/2022 21:09

Well yes, but the majority of those things can be done in a reasonable period of time whilst the dog is happily at home. I don't think the OP is being unreasonable, I was just surprised you think a dog is more of a tie than a child. Children require constant supervision!

Try holidaying in the UK with a dog. You go to a National Trust place on a sunny day. You can't leave the dog in the car because it's far too hot. So one of you wanders round the parkland (if dogs are allowed at all) and the other has a very quick tour of the house and gardens before swapping over. Ditto a lot of visitor attractions. You can't leave a dog unaccompanied in a holiday cottage or a hotel room. It's why so many dog owners have camper vans or caravans.

OP posts:
BadNomad · 15/11/2022 21:30

Also, as dogs get older, their needs increase again. Unlike children, who, all being well, become more independent and move out. Dogs just get old, weak and die on you.

Vikinga · 15/11/2022 21:32

nomorequinoa · 15/11/2022 21:19

Try holidaying in the UK with a dog. You go to a National Trust place on a sunny day. You can't leave the dog in the car because it's far too hot. So one of you wanders round the parkland (if dogs are allowed at all) and the other has a very quick tour of the house and gardens before swapping over. Ditto a lot of visitor attractions. You can't leave a dog unaccompanied in a holiday cottage or a hotel room. It's why so many dog owners have camper vans or caravans.

Again, tell him when he takes full responsibility of your existing dog for a few months, then he can decide if that's something he wants.

My boyfriend is amazing but he has a (lovely) dog who can't be left. We have to do everything with the dogs or we have to get family to dogsit. My dog can easily be left for half a day (doesn't happen often) but his dog can't. It means that every cinema trip, night out etc has to be planned and have dog sitters. Massive pain in the neck that I thought we had left behind once kids were old enough not to need babysitters.

LadyVictoriaSponge · 15/11/2022 21:37

BadNomad · 15/11/2022 21:30

Also, as dogs get older, their needs increase again. Unlike children, who, all being well, become more independent and move out. Dogs just get old, weak and die on you.

This is very true, children become more independent the older they get, it’s the complete reverse with dogs, my elderly dog has heart, kidney and liver disease (well controlled at the moment with lots of drugs) she also has small cataracts and is going a bit deaf so is increasingly reliant on me, she needs me by her side 24/7 or she just can’t cope.

2tired2careanymore · 15/11/2022 21:40

JaneFondue · 15/11/2022 15:23

You are so not BU. But I can't believe a 22 yr old relationship is breaking up over a dog.

It's not over the dog.

It's because her DH thinks his opinion is more important. It's also because her DH dumps all his responsibilities onto OP.

Jellybean23 · 15/11/2022 22:20

Honestly, you don't know how much he walks the dog when you are away for a week, or even if at all. You must withdraw from all dog duties and let him get on with it. You don't need to constantly talk about it, say it once and stick to it. And let him arrange the care for the dog while you visit friends. Better still, if he doesn't and proposes cancelling the trip, visit the friends without him and he can stay home with the dog.

XanaduKira · 15/11/2022 22:21

Totally agree @Jellybean23

SpottyBalloons · 15/11/2022 22:36

Mirabai · 15/11/2022 21:11

Not when they’ve left home.

I'm not sure what the point of that observation is? Most children don't leave home before 16, by which point a dog is likely to have passed away anyway.

Again, to reiterate, I don't think the OP is being unreasonable, I was just surprised that anyone would feel more burdened by a dog than a child.

@nomorequinoa I've done plenty of holidays with a dog, I agree it can be tricky!

Crossback · 15/11/2022 22:46

absolutely stick to your guns. I get how you feel.
our dog is the light of our lives but she is a tie.
having said that I haven’t found it hard to get someone to look after her for days out or holidays as long as we’re willing to pay. We’ve used a number of local dog walkers and sitters and they’ve all been great.

Slig · 15/11/2022 22:58

I've had a dog all my life. My current pooch is 16 , land have 2 cats who are over 10.

When they go there isn't a snowball in hells chance I'm getting anymore pets.

No one believes me.

My kids will be gone in 2 years.

I'll be free for the first time since I was 18.

I completely understand where you're coming from.

I love my animals but I want and need some freedom.

I would walk away too if someone forced me to have another pet. I have 20 years left (if I'm lucky) I want to go places and do things that having a pet would put a stop to.

billy1966 · 15/11/2022 23:06

2tired2careanymore · 15/11/2022 21:40

It's not over the dog.

It's because her DH thinks his opinion is more important. It's also because her DH dumps all his responsibilities onto OP.

This.

What a selfish twat he is.

Definitely do not give in and think long and hard about your future with someone so selfish.

I know of several friends who had adored dogs for 14-18 years and hugely grieved them BUT would never get a another one, far to restrictive.

Also finding people to sit them is not easy and therefore expensive.

My friend had a bit of a falling out with the presumptuous sister who presumed she was going to be their family dog sitter.

She had no interest whatsoever and her sister is aghast at the cost of kennels for 3 weeks🙄.

He sounds like a real selfish arse OP.

Sunnytwobridges · 15/11/2022 23:29

Miss03852 · 15/11/2022 15:45

Would your life really be better as a single 60 year old than married but with a dog?

This. I was thinking this. I've been single since my early 40s and now early 50s. Haven't been able to meet anyone in all those years. I'm not sure I'd give up a marriage because of a dog. ANd I travelled a lot with dogs, it's so easy to find sitters these days.

PlutoCritter · 15/11/2022 23:45

This isn't about a dog. It's about him deciding something then dumping you with the responsibility. Like a child.

No wonder you have seen him in a new light. Surely after 22 years he'd have seen and recognised all the dog care you've done while he's off doing hobbies etc? But nope - not only does he not recognise it, he wants you to sign up for more.

The length of this relationship makes his attitude worse, not better.

deeperthanallroses · 16/11/2022 05:05

SpottyBalloons · 15/11/2022 21:09

Well yes, but the majority of those things can be done in a reasonable period of time whilst the dog is happily at home. I don't think the OP is being unreasonable, I was just surprised you think a dog is more of a tie than a child. Children require constant supervision!

The context is retirement. Most peoples children are functioning adults when they retire, not 5 year olds who sometimes have toilet accidents and want you to play barbie.

deeperthanallroses · 16/11/2022 05:08

You should go visit the friends, leave him with the dogs. Take some if your turn at life, he’s been away a lot and you’ve been looking forward to this, I would expect mine to facilitate. ‘Hi Joe, about this weekend if it still works I might just come on my own, I’ve been so looking forward to seeing you and Sandra! Dh will stay wiht the dog as someone has to unfortunately, but it’s definitely his turn so don’t feel too bad for him.’ Bye honey thanks for keeping the dogs home fires burning I could and plan to get very used to this, I guess you plan to get used to staying at home, happy retirement!!

ToastAndJames · 16/11/2022 05:12

Surely a dog, like a child, is a “two yeses” situation- you both need to be on board or you don’t do it?

PermanentTemporary · 16/11/2022 05:30

Interesting to read- I'm totally on your side but am not a dog lover so I wondered if I might be out of step.

I think that you are a kind person and won't see a pet neglected, so therefore the simplest and least stressful answer is not to have one. Having ended up with 99.9% of dog care despite having a husband who was at home full-time i totally get that.

But I'm not sure I would spend energy on arguing about this. What is there to argue about? You don't want another dog. End of discussion. Why try to have arguments about past decisions again? I would just laugh if he brings it up again and keep saying 'I'm a dog free zone after this one'.

And of course you can travel solo if you have to. Different but doable.

ZforZebra · 16/11/2022 05:40

It’s not about the dog. It’s about him not listening to you and being insensitive to the fact that you would (yet again) be putting your life on hold to indulge something that mainly he wants but in practice would have very little responsibility for. You’re hopes for retirement are basically being dashed and you’re once again having to indefinitely put big dreams on hold for something you don’t even want. He is ignoring your wishes and selfishly trying to steamroll you into something you have repeatedly and reasonably said you do not want. That is why this argument feels different and that’s why you’re upset. And that’s why splitting up sounds like a possibility.

halfsiesonapotnoodle · 16/11/2022 05:56

nomorequinoa · 15/11/2022 19:12

I think he thinks 'It's only a dog and we've had dogs for years...'

We've just had a discussion about next weekend. We were going to stay with friends we haven't seen since 2019, but they have just (last couple of days) adopted two kittens and have contacted us to ask us not to bring the dog with us. So now we've got to find someone to look after our dog in our own home or find a hotel/ B+B that will take us and the dog and make short visits (dog left in the car) to our friends — or, more likely, put the visit off. I said to DP 'And you want another 15 years of this with another dog?' He accused me of being negative and stressy and we're having our supper in separate rooms.

Do other people find the shenanigans involved when you don't have close friends or family nearby who'll look after your pets for you really stressful? I think the pressure involved in trying to sort out the logistics of dog-care puts me off organising trips and days out.

You see your friends, he can stay at home with the dog.

Mummyoflittledragon · 16/11/2022 06:02

I’m totally with you op. Dogs are a terrible tie but also absolutely lovely. My ddog is at the end of the bed. I am not well enough to make the sort of plans you are making so dogs are my solace. 😍 In your position, I can absolutely understand why you’re keeping this hardline. Your partner sounds selfish in more than one area. Not sharing his wealth after all this time whilst looking after the home and the pet you got on his insistence is a dealbreaker in itself.

Onewildandpreciouslife · 16/11/2022 06:06

It sounds like as the prospect of retirement comes closer, you want something new from your life. You have decided (after 18 years experience!) that you can’t achieve that with a dog in your life. So you’re telling your partner what you want to do with your life, and he’s not accepting that. I don’t think this in uncommon in long term relationships around retirement or when children leave home - perhaps you reach a “now or never” point in your life.

I think I’d try to leave the dog out of future discussions as much as possible (bizarre as it sounds) - this is what I want from my life, and nothing in the last 18 years suggests I can achieve that if we have a dog.

I’m sorry, it must be tough for you