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Partner wants a new dog, I don't: end of the relationship?

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nomorequinoa · 15/11/2022 15:19

We've been together for 22 years. I'm 61, my DP's soon to be 60 and will be retiring in March 2023. I've freelanced from home for many years. DP works in IT as a contractor and has often worked abroad.

18 years ago we rescued our first dog, a young terrier. Soon after that DP took a 12-month contract in the Netherlands and I ended up looking after the dog for at least five days a week, with all the stress of training and caring for a young dog with behavioural issues. He'd come home for a couple of weekends each month and enjoy taking her on long walks, then be off again. Five years after that we mutually agreed to take on another rescue. I continued doing the lion's share of looking after them during the week. I loved them very much, but they were both quite challenging and they too often felt like a tie. Finding a reliable dog-sitter was always a challenge: I lost out on opportunities to go places and do things. The first dog died at 15 in 2017 and the younger one is about to turn 14 is just starting to look a bit stiff and doddery.

A week ago a friend of DP's asked if there was a chance of us rehoming a gorgeous terrier cross. The owners are divorcing and neither is in a position to take the dog. My DP went to see it without consulting me. It's clearly a sweet, much-loved pet and DP has as good as told them we will take it. Apparently he told them he'll just need to talk me round.

I don't want another dog once our current lovely old lad goes. I want us to be able to do all the things we've talked about doing in retirement without the stress of having to look after a dog. I want us to be able to take that three-month trip to South America we've talked about without the worry of dog care. I want to be able to take a last-minute trip away and do spontaneous things without having to factor in a dog. I don't want to have to continue putting on my boots and waterproofs and walking four miles in the cold and rain because the dog needs me to exercise him, as I've done for the last 18 years. I want a break from dog-care routine. DP says I'm making a mountain out of a molehill. He says the dog will be his, he'll walk it twice a day and take responsibility for it. I ask how he'll look after the dog when he's away on his sailing and cycling breaks with his brother and friends. He says he'll put it in kennels. We both know he'll expect me to look after the dog when he's away. He's working on the basis that I'll soften and give in, but I'm not going to. This is a hard, hard no from me.

I'd hoped he'd hear me and agree that once our current lovely boy has gone, we should be able to have at least a five-year break without a dog. Instead he's doubled down. We've never argued much, but in the last few days we've had some really hurtful rows that have made me see him in a new light. We've managed to work our way through things before, but this seems different.

AIBU? Has anyone else been through anything similar? I'd never imagined that it would be a dog that would end our relationship, but I think it might.

OP posts:
FluffySocks0 · 15/11/2022 17:38

Yanbu - I have two dogs and I adore them but they are a big responsibility and you are tied down when you have them. I'm certainly not looking forward to the day that I lose mine but when that day comes I won't be getting another, at least not for a long while for all the same reasons you've given.

It's easy for your dh to say that you won't be expected to do anything with the dog and that he will be completely responsible for it, but that won't happen or at least that isn't what he really expects to happen. You are right to put your foot down if you don't want to be responsibility.

SteveHarringtonsChestHair · 15/11/2022 17:51

I know you love your current dog, but I’d honestly be saying to him - even just for this week - he’s doing 100% of the care for this dog and if he’s not around he’s making other arrangements for walks etc. see how it feels to be the one responsible for a change.

kingtamponthefurred · 15/11/2022 17:56

Do not be cheated out of your retirement plans. You have spent enough time working and being a kennel maid. The period between retirement and the onset of old age and frailty is precious and you cannot predict how long it will last.

SpottyBalloons · 15/11/2022 18:02

PauliesWalnuts · 15/11/2022 15:33

Hard no from me. They tie you down more than children.

@PauliesWalnuts In what way? You can certainly leave a dog on its own for a lot longer than you can leave a child!

Caiti19 · 15/11/2022 18:04

You are so NOT being unreasonable! Your DP is being utterly selfish in trying to steam roll you into another decade of dog-caring while he swans about. Sounds like he doesn't have much experience of you standing up to him - stand your ground!

WiddlinDiddlin · 15/11/2022 18:14

SpottyBalloons · 15/11/2022 18:02

@PauliesWalnuts In what way? You can certainly leave a dog on its own for a lot longer than you can leave a child!

You can, but you shouldn't..

You can also take children to many, many more places than you can dogs.

OP - I live for dogs, everything I do pretty much, is dog related, my whole life is.. dogs...

And yet, in your situation, I would say no to this dog too and yes, if someone were trying to force me to have a dog I don't want that will prevent me doing the things I want to do, I would be making some pretty life changing choices too!

Stand your ground and make him take care and responsibility for the dog you already have too!

Cameleongirl · 15/11/2022 18:22

SteveHarringtonsChestHair · 15/11/2022 17:51

I know you love your current dog, but I’d honestly be saying to him - even just for this week - he’s doing 100% of the care for this dog and if he’s not around he’s making other arrangements for walks etc. see how it feels to be the one responsible for a change.

That's a great idea, @SteveHarringtonsChestHair OP, I'd calmly tell him that as you won't be involved in a new dog's care, how about he takes 100% responsibility for your current dog's welfare, to see if it's feasible? I'd suggest a month's trial. If he can manage it with no input from you, great; if not, he's got his answer.

If you do this, please return and update us on the outcome!

XanaduKira · 15/11/2022 18:23

CheapWine · 15/11/2022 15:29

I bet you a million pounds if you split up he won’t take the dog.

I was thinking the exact same thing!

IsThePopeCatholic · 15/11/2022 18:25

It’s time to put your own needs and wants first, op. Your dp sounds selfish and insensitive. Stick to your guns!

Redburnett · 15/11/2022 18:28

OP I am sorry to say that in walking the dog this evening while DP works you are playing into his hands and showing that you are likely to cave in over the new dog. The right thing to do, as others have noted, would be to stop taking all responsibility for the dog you have now and hand over that responsibility to him. I predict that he will get the new dog and you will reluctantly accept it and continue as you have been.

XanaduKira · 15/11/2022 18:29

I agree @Redburnett

Frenchfancy · 15/11/2022 18:36

Don't do what others suggest and turn over responsibility of the existing dog to see how he feels.

He will do exactly what teenagers do. He'll walk it for a couple of weeks, say "see I'm doing my bit" you soften and get the dog and the day after they are too busy to deal with it.

Stick to your guns.

IhateMattHancock · 15/11/2022 18:38

JennyNotFromTheBlock · 15/11/2022 16:32

So you're martyring yourself once again by taking the dog out instead of making him do it. Why can't you go up to whatever room he is working on, put the dog in with him and say you are not walking the dog tonight, it will need to go to the toilet and he needs to walk the dog now because you are not doing it tonight. And shut the door with the dog inside.

22 years, and what do you have to show for it, he won't even commit to you you're not married. He disrespects you, is selfish, and neglects the dog, he 'works away' for months, and lives the bachelor life. DON'T seek therapy. He's not worth it. Leave him. He's not committed to you anyway so why have therapy as if you are a committed married couple. Therapy won't change that he sees you as a flatmate who does all his work while he is batching it abroad as a single man. What relationship is there to even salvage? I don't see a relationship to salvage, just flatmates or FWB. Just LTB. You will will be way better off without him, and maybe you will find a man who loves you enough to want to commit to you and have a normal job where he isn't 'away' for months on end living the single life.

Could not have put it any better.

nomorequinoa · 15/11/2022 18:44

SteveHarringtonsChestHair · 15/11/2022 17:51

I know you love your current dog, but I’d honestly be saying to him - even just for this week - he’s doing 100% of the care for this dog and if he’s not around he’s making other arrangements for walks etc. see how it feels to be the one responsible for a change.

He does sometimes have the dog for a week or so on his own. I was away with a friend last month and he looked after the old boy for 9 days. I suspect the dog didn't have an hour-long walk every day, which is what I try to do, but now he's older it doesn't matter as much as it did when he really needed the exercise.

I'm not the complete domestic drudge some seem to have assumed. Over the last 16 years DP has probably been away for an average of about 12-14 weeks a year — so he's here the majority of the time. Though of course if he's site-based he's often away for long days. Since Covid he's been mainly home-based. Today he had an online meeting that overran and couldn't do the dog. It's not the dog's fault and I don't see taking him for a walk and seeing to his needs as being a martyr. DP is cooking dinner while I'm supposed to be catching up on work.

I'd be okay financially if we separated, though the overheads of running a household on my own would bite into my planned budget. I'd probably continue to work part-time for as long as possible in order to cover the bills, and that might put paid to things like three months in South America. That said, I'm so tired of the everyday domestic routine — dog walks and dinner and cleaning up and everything else.

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rookiemere · 15/11/2022 18:53

Have you tried putting your points in an email or message?

I'd emphasise how much you want to spend time together, traveling with him.

He's not being fair, but maybe it's not sunk in what you would both be sacrificing. DH regrets getting a dog, but I bet if I'd taken on the grunt work silently and efficiently, he'd have been all for it.

girlmom21 · 15/11/2022 18:55

Give him tonight as a prime example as to why you know you'd end up with all the responsibility of the next dog.

PorridgewithQuark · 15/11/2022 18:57

FurAndFeathers · 15/11/2022 15:35

This is not about the dog.
it’s about him not being able to cope with not getting his way.

it sounds like you’ve facilitated and compromised throughout the relationship.

he cannot cope with you not doing what he wants

This.

It's no different to only one of you wanting to move to the outer Hebrides, or sell your home and invest all the money in a high risk long term scheme, or if you were 15 years younger adopt a child. If one partner, no matter which, says "no way" they win (or the couple splits and the one commited to the idea does it alone). If one partner heard no and did it anyway it'd be the end of the relationship, no matter how long.

Not being able to understand no would indeed make anyone see their spouse in a worrying new way.

Emptyandsad · 15/11/2022 19:01

Miss03852 · 15/11/2022 15:45

Would your life really be better as a single 60 year old than married but with a dog?

Why are these the only two alternatives? Why is he deciding he'd rather have a dog (that he doesn't even know yet) than a wife, to whom he has been married for ages and who, has up until now, bent over backwards to accommodate his wishes?

pumpkinelvis · 15/11/2022 19:05

I agree with you op. We have a very much adored dog who is very much part of the family. Dogs do add restrictions to your life though. I have said to dh that after ddog is not with us we are taking a break for a few years (before we take on another one) and doing some long haul travelling that we can't do now (won't leave him for more than a week). Could you compromise and say not this dog will revisit getting a dog in a year/ 2 years etc.

MavisCruet2023 · 15/11/2022 19:10

Dogs are wifework.

nomorequinoa · 15/11/2022 19:12

I think he thinks 'It's only a dog and we've had dogs for years...'

We've just had a discussion about next weekend. We were going to stay with friends we haven't seen since 2019, but they have just (last couple of days) adopted two kittens and have contacted us to ask us not to bring the dog with us. So now we've got to find someone to look after our dog in our own home or find a hotel/ B+B that will take us and the dog and make short visits (dog left in the car) to our friends — or, more likely, put the visit off. I said to DP 'And you want another 15 years of this with another dog?' He accused me of being negative and stressy and we're having our supper in separate rooms.

Do other people find the shenanigans involved when you don't have close friends or family nearby who'll look after your pets for you really stressful? I think the pressure involved in trying to sort out the logistics of dog-care puts me off organising trips and days out.

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CarefreeMe · 15/11/2022 19:23

How old is the terrier cross?

I can see both sides.

But I have an elderly dog and I love her to bits and I’m worried how I’ll cope when she dies - but I don’t want another one, at least for a good few years so I can do all the things I want to do without worrying about her.
So I completely see where you’re coming from and I am on your side.

Would I end an entire relationship over this though?
I don’t actually think I would.
You say you want to go on holiday for 3 months - but you can’t do that if you separate anyway.

The only issue for me would be that if you ‘give in’ he’ll think that you’ve caved because he knew you would - not because you decided to stay married to him.

I would have a proper talk with him and tell him exactly what you’ve said on here - you could even show him this thread.

He needs to know that this is a massive deal for you that you are thinking about ending your marriage over, so either he needs to not get the dog or if you say it’s ok then he needs to realise how much it means.

Mirabai · 15/11/2022 19:24

Pet shenanigans are a nightmare and I’ve only had cats which are a lot easier.

PauliesWalnuts · 15/11/2022 19:25

@SpottyBalloons

Places you can easily take a child but not a dog:
a posh restaurant
a cinema
the supermarket
a pub crawl
an aeroplane
the dentist
the GP
a hospital stay
the gym
local swimming pool
the library
a youth hostel
many uk hotels
lots of air bnbs
RHS gardens

Mirabai · 15/11/2022 19:26

I’d never have a dog for that reason.

It’s clear at the moment he doesn’t think you’re serious, presumably he will back down when he realises it’s you or the dog.

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