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Partner wants a new dog, I don't: end of the relationship?

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nomorequinoa · 15/11/2022 15:19

We've been together for 22 years. I'm 61, my DP's soon to be 60 and will be retiring in March 2023. I've freelanced from home for many years. DP works in IT as a contractor and has often worked abroad.

18 years ago we rescued our first dog, a young terrier. Soon after that DP took a 12-month contract in the Netherlands and I ended up looking after the dog for at least five days a week, with all the stress of training and caring for a young dog with behavioural issues. He'd come home for a couple of weekends each month and enjoy taking her on long walks, then be off again. Five years after that we mutually agreed to take on another rescue. I continued doing the lion's share of looking after them during the week. I loved them very much, but they were both quite challenging and they too often felt like a tie. Finding a reliable dog-sitter was always a challenge: I lost out on opportunities to go places and do things. The first dog died at 15 in 2017 and the younger one is about to turn 14 is just starting to look a bit stiff and doddery.

A week ago a friend of DP's asked if there was a chance of us rehoming a gorgeous terrier cross. The owners are divorcing and neither is in a position to take the dog. My DP went to see it without consulting me. It's clearly a sweet, much-loved pet and DP has as good as told them we will take it. Apparently he told them he'll just need to talk me round.

I don't want another dog once our current lovely old lad goes. I want us to be able to do all the things we've talked about doing in retirement without the stress of having to look after a dog. I want us to be able to take that three-month trip to South America we've talked about without the worry of dog care. I want to be able to take a last-minute trip away and do spontaneous things without having to factor in a dog. I don't want to have to continue putting on my boots and waterproofs and walking four miles in the cold and rain because the dog needs me to exercise him, as I've done for the last 18 years. I want a break from dog-care routine. DP says I'm making a mountain out of a molehill. He says the dog will be his, he'll walk it twice a day and take responsibility for it. I ask how he'll look after the dog when he's away on his sailing and cycling breaks with his brother and friends. He says he'll put it in kennels. We both know he'll expect me to look after the dog when he's away. He's working on the basis that I'll soften and give in, but I'm not going to. This is a hard, hard no from me.

I'd hoped he'd hear me and agree that once our current lovely boy has gone, we should be able to have at least a five-year break without a dog. Instead he's doubled down. We've never argued much, but in the last few days we've had some really hurtful rows that have made me see him in a new light. We've managed to work our way through things before, but this seems different.

AIBU? Has anyone else been through anything similar? I'd never imagined that it would be a dog that would end our relationship, but I think it might.

OP posts:
vix3rd · 15/11/2022 16:21

We got a second dog because my father "thought" our original dog (Terrier Cross) was lonely & needed a friend (Terrier cross).

They got along ok for about a year, then my brother shut the older one's tail in a door & he loudly yelped then the younger one attacked the older one. After that they fought all the time.

The worst fight was when my parents were on holiday & they had a fight during which the younger one got a hold of the older ones tongue & I had to separate them. The older one had to go to the vet to get his tongue stitched back together.

It was awful & horribly traumatic - I was crying for days & even my boss could see something was wrong.

We tried to rehome the younger dog but couldn't find anyone to take her.
Luckily I then bought a flat & she came to live with me, but like you say it was very tying & difficult.
Don't get me wrong I loved her but it would NOT have been my first choice.

Your husband CANNOT guarantee that the dogs will get on, especially when the older one is so much older.

JennyNotFromTheBlock · 15/11/2022 16:21

Miss03852 · 15/11/2022 15:45

Would your life really be better as a single 60 year old than married but with a dog?

Footloose and fancy free, single at 60, can come and go as she chooses, vs being with a partner (I don't think they're married) who has no regard for you, goes behind your back, 'works away' (hmmm) and leaves you to feed, bathe, walk and look after a dog she never wanted? Yeehah! to the single choice, bring it on! Easy choice.

Aquamarine1029 · 15/11/2022 16:22

CheapWine · 15/11/2022 15:29

I bet you a million pounds if you split up he won’t take the dog.

Ding ding ding. We have a winner.

MsFannySqueers · 15/11/2022 16:25

What an awful position your partner has put you in. I agree with PP contact this friend of your DP directly. Then tell them they have caused a huge amount of upset for you and that the viewing of the dog and virtually agreeing to re home it was all done behind your back. How selfish of your partner to try to lumber you with all this especially after you have had years of caring for the other dogs. I have a little dog who I love dearly he’s just over a year old. I had owned many dogs previously but never one as needy as this one! He is incredibly tying I can’t go anywhere without him which is obviously very limiting.

JaneFondue · 15/11/2022 16:25

Ah your update makes things clearer. This isn't just about the dog. There are deeper issues.

Dogtooth · 15/11/2022 16:25

It's not about the dog. It's about you having done a lot of drudge work over the years and now you want to be fully yourself and have adventures, and your husband is saying nah, more of the same, woman!

And you're thinking there has to be more than that stretching out for all those years of retirement. And whether you finally get autonomy. And whether you replace current routines with other routines, and who decides what the routines should be.

I don't think you need to split up over it, but you need a long and honest discussion of what retirement means for you both.

Crumpleton · 15/11/2022 16:31

YANBU
We'd had family dogs since the early 80's, one time 3 together.
After the last one died DH said give it some time and we'd rescue another.

After a while of being without a dog I started to get used to being without I felt I could go out and not have to worry about returning home within a few hours as I never liked the dogs left even with each other for company for more than a few hours.

6 years on and we've still chosen to be dog free, in a honesty it's lovely to be able to go off for the day or on the rare occasion a few nights away on the spur of the moment and not feel I have to rush back.

MsFannySqueers · 15/11/2022 16:31

Very well said @Dogtooth !

JennyNotFromTheBlock · 15/11/2022 16:32

nomorequinoa · 15/11/2022 16:20

What a relief to find that others understand how you can love a pet to bits, and feel devastated at the thought of losing them, but be absolutely certain you don't want another one. I'm uncertain about many things, but I am about this.

I take on board everything that's been said: yes, looking back I wish I'd not gone along with everything as reasonably as I did. He's had the experience of living abroad as a single man while I've been stuck at home looking after the dogs. He did a couple of contracts in Southern Africa and other places where he was away for months at a time and I enabled him. In retrospect I should have asked him to pay for dog-walkers and professional dog-sitters each week, to give me a break and enable me to enjoy the kind of freedom he was experiencing. But you don't think like that when you're in a long-term relationship, do you?

I've never threatened to leave the relationship before. I think I really shocked him when I said that if he insisted on taking on this dog, I would go. We're not married, so I won't get any of the money he was able to salt away during those periods being paid a premium. I really meant it and I still do now. I feel so strongly about being trapped by the dog's needs. I have to go now because the light's beginning to fade and I need to put on my wellies and raincoat and take the old boy for a 45-minute walk — because while OH is here in the house, he's too busy working to take the dog out. It's me who'll walk the dog now and catch up with work this evening.

I'm going to suggest we talk to a therapist/ mediator about where we've ended up. Everyone who's said 'It's not about the dog' is absolutely right. The dog argument has exposed something we need to deal with. Thank you all.

So you're martyring yourself once again by taking the dog out instead of making him do it. Why can't you go up to whatever room he is working on, put the dog in with him and say you are not walking the dog tonight, it will need to go to the toilet and he needs to walk the dog now because you are not doing it tonight. And shut the door with the dog inside.

22 years, and what do you have to show for it, he won't even commit to you you're not married. He disrespects you, is selfish, and neglects the dog, he 'works away' for months, and lives the bachelor life. DON'T seek therapy. He's not worth it. Leave him. He's not committed to you anyway so why have therapy as if you are a committed married couple. Therapy won't change that he sees you as a flatmate who does all his work while he is batching it abroad as a single man. What relationship is there to even salvage? I don't see a relationship to salvage, just flatmates or FWB. Just LTB. You will will be way better off without him, and maybe you will find a man who loves you enough to want to commit to you and have a normal job where he isn't 'away' for months on end living the single life.

Jellybean23 · 15/11/2022 16:34

Oh wow. You are walking the dog tonight because he's busy? Perfect time for him to take sole charge of looking after the dog. Let him do the dog walks, nothing like a bit of first hand experience to bring home to him what it will be like when the next one arrives.

Suzi888 · 15/11/2022 16:35

Your husband is treating a dog like a toy, getting to play with it when it suits him. Totally unfair on you.

YANBU your DH is selfish.

Gronkle · 15/11/2022 16:37

I'm 55, dh and i have agreed we won't be getting anymore pets, we want to be untethered in our retirement. YANBU

deeperthanallroses · 15/11/2022 16:41

I have to go now because the light's beginning to fade and I need to put on my wellies and raincoat and take the old boy for a 45-minute walk — because while OH is here in the house, he's too busy working to take the dog out. It's me who'll walk the dog now and catch up with work this evening.
no you do NOT. Open his fucking study door, say you have to go walk the dog we HAVE RIGHT NOW, I’m going away for a week, i am going to go write down a list of whats needed for OUR DOG WE HAVE RIGHT NOW then I’m going to go enjoy a teeny tiny fraction of what you’ve had our entire life together aka someone else looking after the dog you wanted. And when I come back we can talk about dog free trips we will be able to take together, or dog free trips i will be able to take alone while you give up sailing since having a dog is the most important thing to you, far more
important than I am. Well?? What the fuck are you doing sitting there? Your dog needs a 45 minute walk. Every single day. Here’s the dog, shut the dog in the study wiht him, write your list, pack your bag, and fuck off for a week. Please please do this. Right now.

JennyNotFromTheBlock · 15/11/2022 16:44

CheapWine · 15/11/2022 15:29

I bet you a million pounds if you split up he won’t take the dog.

Exactly. I bet even with their current dog if OP comes to their senses and leaves him, he won't take this current dog either.

BlueWalnut · 15/11/2022 16:44

What @deeperthanallroses said.

I’m glad you’re getting counselling. And please don’t worry about the dog on offer. If he’s gorgeous he will find an amazing home regardless of what you do.

Crumpleton · 15/11/2022 16:49

I've just seen your update...

If you DP is at home anytime the dog needs walking you should pass your DP the lead and tell him the dog needs going out, it's really the only way he'll realise that pretty much most things that a dog needs has to be done with the help of a human.
If he tells you he hasn't got time then remind him he'll have two to look after.

You do sound as though you've been left doing all the donkey work while DP has had a very different life.
Think I'd stop arguing over a dog and point blank refuse to discuss it until other problems have been sorted.

Toomuchleopard · 15/11/2022 16:50

I’m my area there’s a franchise that does dog home boarding and dog walking. If there’s something similar near you you could sign up to be a home boarder and pick and choose which dogs you look after and when.

Theskyisfallingdown · 15/11/2022 16:51

People typing ‘husband’ haven’t read OPs posts properly.

Whose house is it? Enjoy your retirement, you don’t need to live with that bloke, you can date him if you want, and enjoy your own peaceful life.

theonlygirl · 15/11/2022 16:52

FurAndFeathers · 15/11/2022 15:35

This is not about the dog.
it’s about him not being able to cope with not getting his way.

it sounds like you’ve facilitated and compromised throughout the relationship.

he cannot cope with you not doing what he wants

I agree with this 100%

No way should he be imposing a dog on you after you've done the lions share of looking after 2 others while he has worked away. He can ask you nicely to consider it, which he hasn't done, but you absolutely have the right to say no. And how does he think you will do all the stuff you've waited to do in retirement, or does he have no intention of doing any of it anyway? Men can be so fucking selfish.

MrsTerryPratchett · 15/11/2022 16:53

How screwed financially are you OP?

Theskyisfallingdown · 15/11/2022 16:57

Do you really want to throw money to a therapist for a part time boyfriend? He doesn’t sound worth it.

ZeldaWillTellYourFortune · 15/11/2022 17:02

I adore my senior dog and hate the thought of his life ending, but as I approach 60 I want to be free to pack in as much travel as possible before I become frail, and have a sister with cancer who wants to travel as much as she can before the health issues worsen. She has older pets too, and it's a massive expense and problem for both of us. Just in the past year, her one little rescue has cost 10K for surgeries; not his fault but there goes one long-haul. (I helped her with the expense as she's on a small pension.)

I am going away for a week in early December and my dog's care is costing more than my hotel for the week.

Don't blame you a bit, OP. At our age we have to grab the few remaining healthy, mobile years while we can.

hesbeingabitofadick · 15/11/2022 17:03

@nomorequinoa just sending you a <hug> from the 😻😻 that DH said would be "company"...I love them to bits, but would never leave them overnight.
His retirement filled with foreign travel isn't quite as he thought it would be because of that.🤷‍♀️

SnackSizeRaisin · 15/11/2022 17:07

He sounds extremely selfish. I would definitely be telling him to look after the existing dog from now on. You almost sound afraid to stand up to him. But if you can't ask him this then there is no point in the relationship.

rookiemere · 15/11/2022 17:32

As others have said, I think your first action is to tell him to assume all responsibility for the existing dog and then see how he feels in six months time.

We have a dog that was DHs choice, I didn't want one. He is a lovely dog but I'm relieved we got him 4 years ago rather than waiting until DH retired as it is tremendously tying and expensive.

DH has to be fair kept up the role of primary owner. But I've had to insist he takes him on walking weekends when he'd have preferred not to, and on occasion insisted he went to the dog walker so that I wasn't solely responsible when he was away. Latterly I've just made him take me out for dinner if he has gone away and I've been left solo with the dog.

I hope you sort it out OP.