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Husband converted to Islam

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newbookonshelf · 12/11/2022 08:46

What would you make of this? Not sure what I'm asking. He's trying to find himself I suppose. We're all looking for meaning in this world. I've thought about religion many times, but just not sure what to make of it right now.

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magma32 · 15/11/2022 15:53

Unless you mean the ‘prostration’ OP I thought someone familiar with praying, you’d be familiar with what he’s doing.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prostration

you should be familiar with number 5 which is anything but sprawled out, number one which seems legs out but still not what I would call sprawled, which is done in some Christians sects and look further down another form of legs out Buddhists prostration which again I wouldn’t call sprawled out either. Maybe he’s been trying to learn from wiki. Bless.

newbookonshelf · 15/11/2022 15:55

magma32 · 15/11/2022 15:53

Unless you mean the ‘prostration’ OP I thought someone familiar with praying, you’d be familiar with what he’s doing.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prostration

you should be familiar with number 5 which is anything but sprawled out, number one which seems legs out but still not what I would call sprawled, which is done in some Christians sects and look further down another form of legs out Buddhists prostration which again I wouldn’t call sprawled out either. Maybe he’s been trying to learn from wiki. Bless.

He also said that he should be saying "alu akhbar" whilst praying so I don't really look forward to that part. Is that also not necessary? He seems to think it is.

Guys, he's not white. He's black. Yes, British. I'm white though.

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Meraas · 15/11/2022 16:00

He also said that he should be saying "alu akhbar" whilst praying so I don't really look forward to that part. Is that also not necessary? He seems to think it is.

Ok, @MNHQ this poster has well and truly jumped the shark.

MrsThimbles · 15/11/2022 16:03

newbookonshelf · 15/11/2022 15:55

He also said that he should be saying "alu akhbar" whilst praying so I don't really look forward to that part. Is that also not necessary? He seems to think it is.

Guys, he's not white. He's black. Yes, British. I'm white though.

🙈

When I ask people what they miss about living in the Middle East, 9 times out of 10 they tell me they miss hearing the Adhan (call to prayer). It’s beautiful. Even to non Muslims. It’s also the same when Muslims pray. It’s calm and peaceful and almost silent. You can hardly hear what a person is saying and when they do say ‘Ala Akhbar’ all they are saying is God is great.

MrsThimbles · 15/11/2022 16:04

Meraas · 15/11/2022 16:00

He also said that he should be saying "alu akhbar" whilst praying so I don't really look forward to that part. Is that also not necessary? He seems to think it is.

Ok, @MNHQ this poster has well and truly jumped the shark.

I know. But all they are doing is showing themselves for what they are - an Idiot.

magma32 · 15/11/2022 16:04

Ok cool as a black man he’s fitting the white young convert quite nicely. Is that any better?

magma32 · 15/11/2022 16:06

There’s another thread popped up where a Christian lady has become atheist and doesn’t know what to do about her very Christian husband. Oh dear.

magma32 · 15/11/2022 16:08

Yes it’s funny like you say it says plenty about the posters here, maybe it wasn’t going where she wanted it so spiced it up a bit 😂

newbookonshelf · 15/11/2022 16:09

magma32 · 15/11/2022 16:06

There’s another thread popped up where a Christian lady has become atheist and doesn’t know what to do about her very Christian husband. Oh dear.

🙄I've given enough information about myself here.
Thankfully I got lots of input.

If I'm being out of order then I'm glad to know. I'm just expressing my fears, I am worried. We had a big chat last night after I got all het up on here.

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ChazsBrilliantAttitude · 15/11/2022 17:01

There are rules about which prayers need to be said out loud and which are said quietly.

Xenia · 15/11/2022 17:13

I think anyone religions on the thread with a similar religious husband should consider how they would feel if their muslim husand secretly converted to Catholicism without telling any family and then started saying the rosary every day at home and joined Opus Dei and had the metal thing with spikes poking into his thigh. I a not surprised the original poster is a bit unhappy about the secrecy. If the husband is proud and pleased with his new religion why keep the family in the dark about it?

What the husband baptised as a baby? What was his religion before the conversion?

Meraas · 15/11/2022 17:16

Xenia · 15/11/2022 17:13

I think anyone religions on the thread with a similar religious husband should consider how they would feel if their muslim husand secretly converted to Catholicism without telling any family and then started saying the rosary every day at home and joined Opus Dei and had the metal thing with spikes poking into his thigh. I a not surprised the original poster is a bit unhappy about the secrecy. If the husband is proud and pleased with his new religion why keep the family in the dark about it?

What the husband baptised as a baby? What was his religion before the conversion?

But OP isn’t Catholic so your analogy makes no sense.

OP said she isn’t religious but that is not bothered about whether he practices and she received advice from many on that basis.

Suddenly when the thread started to go quiet she let loose some dramatic posts about his sprawling on the floor which make no sense.

chakra1 · 15/11/2022 17:36

Xenia - the husband of a friend of mine converted to Catholicism, specifically Opus Dei, a few years ago. It just came totally out of the blue. He became unbearably smug and was constantly fawning over this "our Father" character. The vibe was very much one of a cult. He did not wear the spiky thing but some did apparently (the ones who all lived together). Then she found out he was giving most of their savings to Opus Dei. He wanted her to go to the meetings with him, but she refused. What a hypocrite he was basically, because she then found out he was having an affair within the Opus Dei group and with a married woman who was pregnant! They were all so 'holier then thou'. Anyway, she's well out if that.

ChiefWiggumsBoy · 15/11/2022 17:40

newbookonshelf · 14/11/2022 11:39

Would you give it some time in my situation?

Sorry @newbookonshelf i missed your question.

I’ve just spent the last ten minutes mulling it over in my mind and genuinely, while I couldn’t continue the relationship, I don’t know what I’d do in the short term. I can’t actually imagine it happening!

Rainbowsinthesky · 15/11/2022 18:53

I don’t think OP is trying to offend or saying that she thinks this is a bad thing. She’s just being open about what seems to be a normal reaction to something she didn’t want. Something which has been imposed on her.

Its natural to have a completely different response to the exact same scenario for someone else vs how she feels about it for herself.

I respect how people want to follow Kosher, but I don’t want a Kosher kitchen.

She is entitled to not want to have aspects of any religion her your home. It’s her home and it’s her family - which you set up in your own vision. One she thought she shared with her husband.

Good luck OP, stay strong and true to yourself.

frazzledasarock · 15/11/2022 20:09

He wants to say alu Akhbar (never heard anyone say that, closest interpretation I can come up with being a mixture of languages, this means potatoes are great), whilst sprawled on the floor?

Maybe he just wants you to order in some chips.

chilliplant634 · 15/11/2022 20:32

Rainbowsinthesky · 15/11/2022 18:53

I don’t think OP is trying to offend or saying that she thinks this is a bad thing. She’s just being open about what seems to be a normal reaction to something she didn’t want. Something which has been imposed on her.

Its natural to have a completely different response to the exact same scenario for someone else vs how she feels about it for herself.

I respect how people want to follow Kosher, but I don’t want a Kosher kitchen.

She is entitled to not want to have aspects of any religion her your home. It’s her home and it’s her family - which you set up in your own vision. One she thought she shared with her husband.

Good luck OP, stay strong and true to yourself.

It isn't about whether she is trying to offend. Her disgust clearly shows through her word choices. I completely understand that it is a shock to her and she is still processing the situation. But the tone of her posts has completely changed. I'm not surprised, after seeing all the hate on this thread. So far, OP's husband hasn't imposed anything on her. He has started praying. At the end of the day, he does have the freedom to choose his beliefs/religion. If OP really can't stand him anymore then she doesn't have to put up with it. No-one can force her to.

It really is funny to see the double standards on MN. There is another thread about someone leaving Christianity, while her husband is still Christian. There the poster is being told that her husband should love her regardless, otherwise he is being controlling and weird. It really is funny that no one is telling this poster how dare you go and make this decision without consulting the family blah blah.

Puddywoodycat · 15/11/2022 20:49

It's not something I'd be happy about at all because of the depth and reach potentially into every level of life and action.

He may say now he doesn't mind your child being raised loosely in religion but that may change.
It's a religion that imposes restrictions on a lot. How far each person allows that to impede their life differs, but I think a new convert is in danger of becoming quite the zealot.

Xenia · 15/11/2022 21:14

She has a right of freedom of speech. Some cultures seem to want to curb freedom of speech more than others and we all know the countries those are from Russian to some of the more restrictive ones like Saudi and Iran. She is also entitled to her own feelings so I have no problem with anything she has posted. Nor are we all required to like all religions and we are even free in the UK to say there is no God and we can even say things like we wish everyone were Christian, Muslim or atheist. We are lucky to have those freedoms.

chilliplant634 · 15/11/2022 21:18

Xenia · 15/11/2022 21:14

She has a right of freedom of speech. Some cultures seem to want to curb freedom of speech more than others and we all know the countries those are from Russian to some of the more restrictive ones like Saudi and Iran. She is also entitled to her own feelings so I have no problem with anything she has posted. Nor are we all required to like all religions and we are even free in the UK to say there is no God and we can even say things like we wish everyone were Christian, Muslim or atheist. We are lucky to have those freedoms.

I agree. But no one is restricting OP's freedom of speech. A bit dramatic much?

newbookonshelf · 16/11/2022 08:27

Meraas · 15/11/2022 17:16

But OP isn’t Catholic so your analogy makes no sense.

OP said she isn’t religious but that is not bothered about whether he practices and she received advice from many on that basis.

Suddenly when the thread started to go quiet she let loose some dramatic posts about his sprawling on the floor which make no sense.

It's been under a week and I have no idea how to feel but turns out I'm not into the practise. I find it strange.

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newbookonshelf · 16/11/2022 09:20

He is going to mosque for the second time on Friday to "get taught how to pray" and stuff.

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butterfliedtwo · 16/11/2022 10:58

I feel for you, OP. This is so far from what you signed up for. Continue being honest with yourself and with him and look after yourself and your daughter. It's all you can do. And decide what and how you much you can live with.

Agapornis · 16/11/2022 14:51

I really don't understand why he's recited the shahaada/declaration of faith, yet seems to know so little about islam! I'm sure I did some stupid things when I was 25, but none so badly informed. Fingers crossed he cracks sooner rather than later. Maybe when he realises he needs to pay zakat (is he working?), if not then surely fasting at Ramadan will finish it off for good... only 126 days before it starts Confused

Completely understand your annoyance at the mashallah thing. Hope you'll laugh at him once he's using inshallah - it's used in many countries to politely indicate something is unlikely to happen/they have no intention of doing it for you.

Againstmachine · 16/11/2022 17:16

It does seem bizzare that he has become a Muslim with no real idea about it , it almost seems he has done it on a whim. I would hope that there would be some sort of introduction or something to the religion to see if it's for you.

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