Husband converted to Islam

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What would you make of this? Not sure what I'm asking. He's trying to find himself I suppose. We're all looking for meaning in this world. I've thought about religion many times, but just not sure what to make of it right now.

"My husband told me our marriage is not recognised under his God."

Well no, of course it wouldn't be. So what does he want you to do about that?

Nothing. It bothered me. Now it just makes me feel nothing.

I'm taking a break from all this with him unless he brings it up.

My main issue is we're trying for a baby and my fertility is waning due to my age so I can't put that off.

As I understand it, OP, halal slaughter practises mean that an animal cannot be stunned before slaughter. I'm not saying by any means that stunning makes it fine (I'm vegetarian too and frankly can't bear the thought of any of it). But I think your husband needs to look a little deeper into what his religion is prescribing for certain animals - today - and decide how they squares with his veganism.

Wow what lies!!! Atleast be truthful to yourself and not post things if you don't know them accurately.
Where does it say in the Qur'an that if you convert then Prophet Muhammad will be given. 72 virgin's serving alcohol, show me the reference?????

Also the hadith that you sent : she's clearly refuting those who have said to her that narrations and saying by saying this women you've actually just compared us to Dogs. It wasn't the Prophet Muhammad saying this to her it was other people and looks like she was correcting them?
Also some hadith can be ambiguous or incomplete. So you need to see it's authenticity and if it's in line with the Qur'an

I think you’re confusing kosher and halal. 95% of animals in the UK are stunned first during halal slaughter, whereas with kosher slaughter stunning is not permitted.

mamacattiva - Thankyou and my apologies that my understanding on that was inaccurate. That's one area I can't bear to read about.

I would say though that as someone who is practically vegan, it affects the way you see the world and makes it difficult to fully relate to any religion that is not vegan too. I do wonder how a vegan could feel the need to convert to any non-vegan faith.

You just need to make clear to him that things will not be changing as to you and any children/future children and you expect his will and things like buying a house with a convention mortgage will contiue as if he were not muslim.
There is a vast amount of work done in the UK in most big law firms to engage in Shariah compliant legal work eg special mortgages (as interest paying is banned -although this was originally the case for Christians too if you go back to the 1500s or earlier and I can understand the reason. If you look at the mess the Uk state has got into in 2022 by taking on massive recent loans to pay furlough money to people and how our interest repayments are going up hugely you can see why religions banned payment of interest).

The debate about whether people were moral and good before the major religions emerged is probably one we cannot settle on this thread. I think there is innate human goodness and kindness which is nothing to do with religion and persisted before and will persist once no one believes in a God too. However I certainly never said women were always treated well before the main religions emerged, during them nor now either. Despite that plenty of tribal villages have been found where women are in charge (not the majority but some) and women decide who marries, where free love is allowed and all sorts. It is not as simple as until the hindus and then Jews (I think they were some of the first) everyone lived wicked lives.

But when that was written did stunning even exist?

As for stunning it doesn't always work in fact investigations show it rarely works and they regain consciousness often at various stages of the process.

Thankfully it won't come up about halal meat because we will never be eating meat again as far as I understand it, it's how we met, through vegan outreach.

Oh, I have no idea how it affects mortgages. We are seeking to buy a house.
This is something he won't have considered either.

Interest banned? Well he is already paying interest on a few loans that he will have to keep repaying.

I could either look at all this and say 'this is all bollocks since the amount of sins he's committing; marriage to a non-christian/jew/muslim / not bringing children up Muslim / paying interest) renders it meaningless

Or I could think 'okay this is obviously going to be a very small part of his life, which is great'

I think I'll go with the latter and hope I'm right.

Yeah me too :)

steakart is a good example of a non Muslim telling everyone what constitutes a "proper" Muslim @Xenia

OP, Sharia law tells you to follow the rules of law of the country your in, and as long as it allows you to practice your religion freely. So nothing different in getting mortgages. You can pay interest but Islamically you cannot take interest ( as it's not money you've earn - same applies to lottery..you cannot that money as you haven't earned it). So any interest I get in savings I give away in charity. Hope that makes sense

I consider myself a 'moderate' muslim (I don't cover my head but try my best to pray/fast + no pork/alcohol). I came to this country for university and stayed back to pursue my career (so not British born & raised). I am not comfortable with Dr Zakir's views - they come across as extreme and intolerant to me. Would also not be ok with my children being influenced by his thoughts/ideologies. Please understand this - in Islam you must respect others. If that is not coming across in a scholar - be very wary.

Thank you yes that makes sense.

it's nice I can agree with Islam there; I too believe you should follow the law of the country you are in and that countries should allow everyone to practise their religion.

I don't think Sharia law is something that all Muslims follow though, am I wrong?

Thank you for that. the person who shared Dr Zakir was my friend in Pakistan so stands to reason.

Wow there's a lot of Islamophobia and general anti-faith sentiment on this thread.

I believe that faith is most generally a good thing. There's a reason why people who have a faith live longer, report better mental health and have better, longer lasting relationships.

I think it's great that your husband has chosen to follow Islam and hope that you enjoy exploring it with him - maybe you will choose to follow Islam too, or some other religion or practice.

This is excellent news and I hope you too also find it in your heart to change to Islam also.

I reverted several years ago, and it was the best decision of my life. I was a Christian but I had enough of church and every single Sunday is worship Jesus. And I felt very uncomfortable with the idea of worshipping Jesus and putting him higher than God. I stopped attending church and I also was single and looking to get married. I never really was interested in dating. I was more wanting a serious commitment which is just what Muslims do. I actually prayed to Allah and asked him to bring me a good and religious man and literally a week later, I met my husband and everything was perfect he told me he's a serious guy looking for a serious relationship. And we clicked and fell in love I told him I was a chrsitian and he said fine, I am a Muslim. No problem. I am very open minded and have numerous friends who are Muslim. We were married not long after meeting and a few months down the line after that, I accepted islam. I was so happy. I wear hijab full time also. And just feel like the happiest person everyday and now we have lots of children and happy expecting another. He's very polite, kind and warm and everything I could wish for.

A lot of people think badly of Muslims and that is unfortunate because stupid people like isis and the taliban and its a shame because those peoplehave killed.more Muslims than they have killed anyone else. And they actually go against the quran. Because the quran says don't hurt people, don't kill and hurt people,. The quran also says to treat animals equal to humans and don't be horrible to animals
And to treat your Muslim neighbour and your non Muslim neighbour equal, and to give charity and help the poor and the orphans. And to not lie, backbitin, steal, bribe or oppress anyone.

People assume my husband forced me to wear the hijab which I think is so small minded. The bible also says to cover your hair. Just like mother Mary did.

I wish your husband all the best in his journey in this wonderful faith.

If one has chosen to be a Muslim they do need to try their best to follow the Sharia law/Islamic law : this means things praying fasting, good treatment, charity....and lots of other rules, otherwise if they go against it they would be answerable to God for it. For example, you have a choice of where to send your child to a school, once you do decide you do have to follow all the rules of the school otherwise there are consequences.

But seeing reality: not many Muslims are fully aware of all the Islamic/Sharia law, or aren't religious or practicing or even forgotten. But they would be answerable for it if they intentionally do not practice or make an effort to practice Islamic law

So not asking me to convert and willingly not bringing up our next child Muslim do you envisage that being a major problem if he gets deeper into Islam?

Hi, are you able to elaborate on Dr Zakir please?

I just had a look at his youtube page but it all seemed okay to be honest.

Would you be comfortable if he started eating meat.

He has caused issues in Malaysia

I think you have both dived too deep into it too fast. He seems to be telling you things as he learns them which may not always be 100% accurate if he took his time. You are treating it as a forever scenario when it might be a passing fad.
What is sure is that I would not be planning a pregnancy in these conditions. It just adds to the stress and uncertainty.

meat? No that would not fly. But there's no need and I'm sure my husband will disregard whatever Dr Z says here.

Second one... listening... Dr Z says taken out of context so denies what he said?

So I would not call either of these "extreme" personally.

Yes you are right in all you say here, thank you

"If you look at human teeth we have flat and canine"

Shows set of flat human teeth as proof.

Extremely dim perhaps