Husband converted to Islam

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What would you make of this? Not sure what I'm asking. He's trying to find himself I suppose. We're all looking for meaning in this world. I've thought about religion many times, but just not sure what to make of it right now.

Although I wouldn't use the word dump, I did, in the end, end a relationship with a man I loved very much because I couldn't come to terms with his Christianity. It was not 'in your face' at all but it did mean he attended church on Sundays, and other church events. His friends were other Christians. I just couldn't be easy with spending the rest of my life with someone with whom there was such a big disconnect.

I do not believe that there was no morality or care for others before religion, no. And I do not believe that if religion disappeared people would stop treating each other well. And if you're going to credit religion with codifying morality, then I think you should also accept the history of religion causing wars and persecution of "non-believers", not to mention the persecution of one sect of a religion by another sect of the same religion. And accept that part of the codifying of morality in religious texts includes a hell of a lot of misogyny and homophobia.

*Nothing, it's just some people of the people espousing a more extreme course of action of splitting up straight away were atheists. That's clearly what the comment meant.

I do encounter an awful lot of very evangelical atheists though and find them as galling as religious atheists*

Atheists were shut down for years by religious organisations don't be offended now they are voicing their concerns.

It's interesting that many think there are groups of atheists there aren't.

FYI boys don't HAVE to be circumcised actually, it's not a farz( necessity) it's a sunnah ( desirable).
I know Muslim parents who have not circumcised their boys as they prefer to leave it up to them to do when older

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Thanks.

I can't see how this matters initially since our wedding was a legal contract, secular, and it's recognised in law so if Islam didn't recognise it, so what? He can't not be married unless we divorce.

But ok for you to put all Muslims under one umbrella?

Why are you falsely accusing me of saying ‘silly atheist’? Are you feeling ok?

And I’m not so easily offended, thanks, I believe that would be you and your fellow angry atheists on that grassy knoll.

Me too!

I'm an atheist.

I haven't grouped atheists together, I've said that there are people, individuals, who are evangelical about it

*But ok for you to put all Muslims under one umbrella?

Why are you falsely accusing me of saying ‘silly atheist’? Are you feeling ok?

And I’m not so easily offended, thanks, I believe that would be you and your fellow angry atheists on that grassy knoll.*

Except if you read my posts I didn't put Islam under the umbrella I said they were all equally shitty.

But hey let's play at being a victim.

*But ok for you to put all Muslims under one umbrella?

Why are you falsely accusing me of saying ‘silly atheist’? Are you feeling ok?

And I’m not so easily offended, thanks, I believe that would be you and your fellow angry atheists on that grassy knoll.*

Read post you are replying to no where does it mention Islam, it mentions religion are you only religion then?

So you’ve grouped all religious people as ‘shitty’ but are telling me ‘Nope you can't put atheists under same umbrella as there is no standard group for atheists.’

Do you see the hypocrisy?

And you accused me of calling you a ‘silly atheist’ when I didn’t, isn’t that you playing the victim?

For me, if he has converted after a month, it is unlikely to be a serious, long term conversion. I bet he will be something else by this time next year. If it does last, then the success of your relationship will largely depend upon whether you are militantly anti religion/oppositional as some posters on this thread are or whether you are genuinely tolerant of one another's beliefs without any conflict (harder than it sounds).

From what you have written, you seem to possess some strong views about the fact that you were on the same page about a few , big issues such as eating meat and you would tolerate , say, praying but if he ate meat (which he may have to do occasionally as I understand it) then that would absolutely be the end for you.

And you accused me of calling you a ‘silly atheist’ when I didn’t, isn’t that you playing the victim?

The comment was about playing victim when a comment was about the whole religious divide when you assumed Islam is the thing. I was talking about.

There is no athiest group for you to offend you still aren't getting it.

You’re not making any sense.

And saying religious people are a group but atheist people are not a group makes even less sense.

@Squeezita

But ok for you to put all Muslims under one umbrella?

This post you put yourself under the umbrella I didnt and you put yourself under this umbrella and all religion is trash so yes it can be put under same umbrella and chucked in a bin, as no reasonable person in the 21st century should have religion.

Crikey

Wow some of these atheists are really proving pp’s points. They claim they’re not part of a ‘group’ but they seem to sing off the same hymn sheet with their insults, even using the same descriptions etc see the exact same all over the Internet it’s quite funny. But no they’re all individuals with free thought 🙄

Yep we all are all individuals, but with same adversary's of course the insults will be the same as you believe in same rubbish

Atheists are not a group. Instead of religion let's use sport. Say you choose to play tennis, join a tennis club, play by the rules, socialise with club members. Someone else may rather play golf, so ditto with the rules and clubs etc. People who don't play tennis or golf do not therefore become a club by default- they haven't come together - there's no church of atheism - they are just individuals going about their lives.

Maybe they should pull the thread

I just don't see the point in turning quite an interesting discussion into whatever it is you're doing

Oh come on. You know perfectly well (or should do if you've read the thread) that it's the atheists who've gone ' leave now" or patronisingly implied religious conversion is a mental health issue. They're not covering themselves in glory on this thread, coming across as smug and unpleasant.

/not religious before you jump, but know a lot of Christians who are some of the best and most level headed peeps around.