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I'm beautiful and it's terrible

272 replies

ToesandToads · 12/11/2022 03:34

It's not really is it?

I've seen a few women commenting that being beautiful is to be harassed and abused so it's rubbish to be beautiful.

That's not my experience.

I have never been harassed.

I've never been bothered at all.

I don't get followed. Touched.

I'm not saying that men are delightful. They're not. But they don't bother me.

And never have.

I am beautiful though.

OP posts:
Donttalkimcounting · 12/11/2022 09:06

EmeraldShamrock1 · 12/11/2022 08:51

C'mon with the vast amount of female posters here, there's bound to be some very beautiful women on MN too.
It isn't a crime to admit it.

Maybe to some they are beautiful. I have a problem with someone describing themselves as beautiful because it's so subjective.

No issue with someone liking the way they look, being confident etc. I applaud that but declaring themselves 'beautiful' - it's just all wrong.

Its a bit like someone walking into a meeting and saying - 'BTW I'm the smartest person in this room just so you know'. Or someone declaring that they are 'the funniest'. We'd all raise our eyebrows to that sort of self praise.

And again it cannot be universally true. Someone who is say a great scientist might be woefully stupid navigating a map. So someone who might be the cleverest person in the office might be a fuckwit to their spouse at home.

Ascribing your own adjectives just isn't the done thing because adjectives are opinion pieces.

Dalekjastninerels · 12/11/2022 09:06

twinklystar23 · 12/11/2022 09:03

Looks like the toad has hopped off after getting their arse handed to them.* *

This is correct.

ThatshallotBaby · 12/11/2022 09:07

Has anyone heard of the golden ratio?
Beauty is not always subjective.

napody · 12/11/2022 09:08

ThatshallotBaby · 12/11/2022 07:59

No, she said people would disagree on who is the most beautiful, which assumes that all three are considered beautiful.
Beautiful women exist. How you feel about their beauty is not their responsibility.

She said a third of the room would say that at least one wasn't beautiful- it's right there.

ThatshallotBaby · 12/11/2022 09:09

It’s like talent. I may not personally like Michelangelo, but I can understand he is a great artist.
You may not find someone beautiful, but your perception does not alter the fact.

Cr3ateAUsername · 12/11/2022 09:10

I find it hard to believe someone who is as “beautiful” as you describe, has never been harassed. 😂 I smell delusion.

MissTrip82 · 12/11/2022 09:10

Yeah I have tiny boobs and have had an unbelievable number of men yell at me to get them out when walking down the street.

it’s never been about attractiveness . Just misogyny.

Lilgamesh2 · 12/11/2022 09:11

So many toxic women in this thread coming to tear another woman down!

Sad in a society where women are so valued for their looks that as soon as a woman likes her own appearance she's seen as the worst of the worst.

CaronPoivre · 12/11/2022 09:12

Come on, we all know male violence is not about sexual attraction. It’s not about beauty. Suggesting it might be encourages some women to hide their beauty, to make themselves less attractive. That suggests it’s a woman’s responsibility to be ugly or face assault.
Eighty five year old women are raped, tiny children are raped (rarely). Drunk, screaming and crying women are raped. Women covered in cuts and bruises are raped.

None of those suggests it’s about looks. It’s about misuse of physical advantages, power, entitlement and violence.

I find it quite hard to imagine any woman hasn’t had some degree of harassment or worse. Sleazy men making comments inappropriately in work settings or standing too close, holding waists as they ‘squeeze’ past. Low level behaviour but unnecessary behaviour just the same.

Dalekjastninerels · 12/11/2022 09:13

ThatshallotBaby · 12/11/2022 09:05

Well said @OoooohMatron
It’s an accident of genetics.
’Some are born to endless night
And some are born to sweet delight’

For the posters who don’t like the op, why?

Because she has tickets on herself and is a dreadful attention seeker who trolls saying how beautiful she is with zero proof.

OP

Show us your perfect self Biscuit

ThatshallotBaby · 12/11/2022 09:14

So the posters who have been sarcastic towards the op, why is that?

ThatshallotBaby · 12/11/2022 09:14

@Dalekjastninerels
So it’s the poster herself or beautiful women in general?

TabithaTittlemouse · 12/11/2022 09:15

I am beautiful though.

I’m going to end every sentence with this today.

@ToesandToads I hope you are okay because I’m not really sure what your post is about. I hope it’s not come from a place of hurt.

butterpuffed · 12/11/2022 09:15

Lilgamesh2 · 12/11/2022 09:11

So many toxic women in this thread coming to tear another woman down!

Sad in a society where women are so valued for their looks that as soon as a woman likes her own appearance she's seen as the worst of the worst.

I disagree . Think OP came in to post as it was the early hours and she couldn't sleep so came in for the reactions . None of what she said is necessarily true.

CaronPoivre · 12/11/2022 09:16

Actually perhaps having the confidence to acclaim your beauty is a little protective. Your confidence will put off those sleaze balls that think they can leech on the quiet, nervous office girl or that the comfortably built ugly one will somehow enjoy being groped.
We know attractive people are more likely to be successful and with that comes power and the ability to react in a ‘don’t mess with me’ sort of way.

Dalekjastninerels · 12/11/2022 09:16

butterpuffed · 12/11/2022 09:15

I disagree . Think OP came in to post as it was the early hours and she couldn't sleep so came in for the reactions . None of what she said is necessarily true.

Precisely!

SavoirFlair · 12/11/2022 09:17

Newmum0322 · 12/11/2022 07:28

You take yourself too seriously!

Not really. I take sexual assault seriously

Maybe you should too, unless you think that should have some levity brought to it 😖

ThatshallotBaby · 12/11/2022 09:18

You think the op is lying and attention seeking?

Lentilweaver · 12/11/2022 09:18

CaronPoivre · 12/11/2022 09:12

Come on, we all know male violence is not about sexual attraction. It’s not about beauty. Suggesting it might be encourages some women to hide their beauty, to make themselves less attractive. That suggests it’s a woman’s responsibility to be ugly or face assault.
Eighty five year old women are raped, tiny children are raped (rarely). Drunk, screaming and crying women are raped. Women covered in cuts and bruises are raped.

None of those suggests it’s about looks. It’s about misuse of physical advantages, power, entitlement and violence.

I find it quite hard to imagine any woman hasn’t had some degree of harassment or worse. Sleazy men making comments inappropriately in work settings or standing too close, holding waists as they ‘squeeze’ past. Low level behaviour but unnecessary behaviour just the same.

So much this. Harassment is about power.

Daisychainsx · 12/11/2022 09:20

Everyone should believe they're beautiful. And it shouldn't be an offence to say that you feel that way.

I don't really get the point of the original post but that's by the by, the horrible comments and people demanding photographic evidence that you are indeed 'beautiful' is ridiculous🤣 you can tell its the weekend and people have nothing better to do...

Dalekjastninerels · 12/11/2022 09:20

ThatshallotBaby · 12/11/2022 09:18

You think the op is lying and attention seeking?

This is obvious!

bloodyeverlastinghell · 12/11/2022 09:21

I was good looking in my younger years, I found I was abused more when I was backpacking abroad. Random man mastrubating at me in park type stuff. Clearly single foreign girl abroad more vulnerable and therefore a target. Didn’t happen so much in the UK perhaps Op isn’t well travelled 🤷‍♀️

Dalekjastninerels · 12/11/2022 09:21

Daisychainsx · 12/11/2022 09:20

Everyone should believe they're beautiful. And it shouldn't be an offence to say that you feel that way.

I don't really get the point of the original post but that's by the by, the horrible comments and people demanding photographic evidence that you are indeed 'beautiful' is ridiculous🤣 you can tell its the weekend and people have nothing better to do...

Including the OP.

Notaboutthebass · 12/11/2022 09:24

Either made up or OP is a cocky arrogant twerp!

ThatshallotBaby · 12/11/2022 09:24

@Dalekjastninerels
It is obvious. To whom?

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