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I'm beautiful and it's terrible

272 replies

ToesandToads · 12/11/2022 03:34

It's not really is it?

I've seen a few women commenting that being beautiful is to be harassed and abused so it's rubbish to be beautiful.

That's not my experience.

I have never been harassed.

I've never been bothered at all.

I don't get followed. Touched.

I'm not saying that men are delightful. They're not. But they don't bother me.

And never have.

I am beautiful though.

OP posts:
BellePeppa · 12/11/2022 07:19

I was very attractive when I was younger and got harassed from mid teens onwards pretty much every day. It made me anxious to go out or pass people (men) in the street. I was very shy and reserved, quite timid really. As I got older I got more bolder and could stand up for myself, I am so glad things like workmen shouting obscenities to you is a sackable offence now. I’m invisible nowadays and like it that way. It was a different time back in the 70s, when men could blatantly treat you like a piece of meat even when you’re a complete stranger walking past them 🤨😤

MrsThimbles · 12/11/2022 07:21

ToesandToads · 12/11/2022 04:02

Absolutely @queenofthebongo

I was scouted multiple times when I was a young woman. I did a bit of editorial modeling. It was a very seedy industry. I did not pursue it.

Erm. Obviously beauty is subjective.

I've never been pretty. I'm tall and spiky

And I have never been sexuality bothered or harassed.

It will be the spikes. People might think you’re a hedgehog.

iloveeverykindofcat · 12/11/2022 07:22

Predators go for women who look vulnerable. Very young or young-looking women, disabled women, slight women, or just any woman alone in the dark.

When I was 21 I came within seconds of being abducted before someone intervened. I was young and looked yonger, alone, with no immediate escape route, in the dark, and cornered by an older powerful man. It's been over 10 years and I can still recall the feeling it as it dawned on me what was happening and that there was nothing I could do to stop it.

vdbfamily · 12/11/2022 07:23

I have a DD who is 6'3", slim and according to most people who meet her, very attractive.
For as long as she can remember, both men and women have connected on how tall and beautiful she is and how she will be a supermodel when she is older.
She had had a ( short) lifetime of wolf whistles, unsolicited comments, vans and cars beeping horns, chat ups etc.
She absolutely hates men for this and as soon as she got to 18 and got a job/income she chopped off her lovely long hair, dyed it numerous colours, had piercings everywhere you could imagine, started getting tattoos and apparently she no longer gets harrassed to same degree.
She does still get men questioning to her face whether she is a Transwoman because of her height. She has been told though, more than once, that they can tell from walking behind her and observing her backside, that she is definitely female.😠😠😠😠😠😠😠
I am not surprised she currently hates most men,🙁

JustDanceAddict · 12/11/2022 07:26

Bully for you. I’m not beautiful and I’ve been all these things. You’re spouting nonsense.

ThatshallotBaby · 12/11/2022 07:27

I think it would be healthier to acknowledge that some women are objectively beautiful, because they are. It’s a fact. If a woman’s beauty affects you in some way, is that her doing?

Newmum0322 · 12/11/2022 07:28

SavoirFlair · 12/11/2022 06:52

No. Not at all.

See my post above. There is not some scientific theory which says a person who is beautiful is more likely to be sexually assaulted.

There is a fallacy however where women who are assaulted and perceived as “attractive” are more likely to be believed.

phys.org/news/2016-11-women-sexual.amp

You take yourself too seriously!

oneuponedown · 12/11/2022 07:28

'Love that for you hun xx'

😂😂 winner of mums net today

twinklystar23 · 12/11/2022 07:29

Maybe toes andtoads sshouldread the post by iloveeverykindofcat sorry hear about that ordeal, sounds terrifying. * *

Munches · 12/11/2022 07:31

feathermucker · 12/11/2022 04:40

The fuck he did, that was about me.

Actually, it was me. Not anyone else 😂😂

FWIW OP I’ve been told I’m a bit of ‘ a sort’ over the years and other ghastly words to that effect. I have a lovely face I have been told but I don’t or have never seen or thought it and have suffered a lot with body dysmorphia in my younger days. In fact I suffer massively internally with my whole self.

But beauty is subjective and that’s what makes the world go round.

You could have the most beautiful face in the world but it means fuck all if you have a rotten heart.
You sound incredibly shallow to say the least.

ReneBumsWombats · 12/11/2022 07:33

Predators go for women who look vulnerable.

No, I've had this shit no matter what look I've got going on. Had men scream filth and follow me when I'm in a suit. And I'm not beautiful.

Devoutspoken · 12/11/2022 07:34

It is an interesting point, I also have had very little sexual harassment over my life time

iloveeverykindofcat · 12/11/2022 07:34

@twinklystar23 Thanks, it was. I've unsettled myself writing it out now. I remember it like it was yesterday.

Donttalkimcounting · 12/11/2022 07:35

No one is universally beautiful. Just take 3 female celebs and ask a panel of people

Cameron Diaz
Angelina Jolie
Julia Roberts

You will never get a room of people to agree on who is the most beautiful. A third of a room will say one of the above is not beautiful, perhaps even say ugly. Another third will think she's the most beautiful. A third will be in between.

You're beautiful to you. The rest of the world is divided.

IntrovertedPenguin · 12/11/2022 07:35

Westendbuoys · 12/11/2022 07:19

I'm tall and spiky

Are you a cactus?

😂😭😂😭😂

Dalekjastninerels · 12/11/2022 07:42

OP

Any response to these comments or are you someone who likes to wind people up?!

PayPennies · 12/11/2022 07:43

Awwww hunnee bless your heart. Ignore the haterz.

#StayBlessed and look after those #HairyHands

xoxoxox

twinklystar23 · 12/11/2022 07:44

iloveeverykindofcat I hope you taking the time to post your experience will give toadsandtoes something to reflect on. Thanks again for sharing sending 🍰(couldn't find flowers!)

Looking forward to toadsandtoes response my last post.

[Waits patiently] * *

twinklystar23 · 12/11/2022 07:45
  • appreciate you taking the time!
ThatshallotBaby · 12/11/2022 07:48

Donttalkimcounting · 12/11/2022 07:35

No one is universally beautiful. Just take 3 female celebs and ask a panel of people

Cameron Diaz
Angelina Jolie
Julia Roberts

You will never get a room of people to agree on who is the most beautiful. A third of a room will say one of the above is not beautiful, perhaps even say ugly. Another third will think she's the most beautiful. A third will be in between.

You're beautiful to you. The rest of the world is divided.

Do you think it would be agreed that they are all beautiful?

MadOnHer · 12/11/2022 07:49

Most women experience harassment and unwanted sexual attention from men during their lives. Almost all young women do, because as has been pointed out already here, men prey on those who appear most vulnerable.

I think it’s also true that any woman that fits the prevalent beauty ideals (ie. what men find attractive) will get more attention, and a lot of that will be negative - whether it’s cat calling and wolf whistling, or just the relentlessness of having men leer and proposition when you’re just going about your everyday life.

It’s not really rocket science.

Not sure what the point of the thread us.

Largethighsbadeyes · 12/11/2022 07:50

What on earth does "tall and spiky" look like?!

Flubber88 · 12/11/2022 07:51

feathermucker · 12/11/2022 04:35

Pleased for you hunny ❤️

Stay humble

😂

ReneBumsWombats · 12/11/2022 07:53

Largethighsbadeyes · 12/11/2022 07:50

What on earth does "tall and spiky" look like?!

My guess is tall, thin and angular.

Dreamwhisper · 12/11/2022 07:54

I'm so sorry that other women bemoaning the abuse and harassment they face from men has bothered you so much.

Thank you for clarifying that actually beautiful women don't get harassed and it must be something they're doing to draw all that attention. They're probably not even that pretty anyway, and are just being arrogant, right?