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Cleaner had her DC there with her today

461 replies

changinglanesagain · 11/11/2022 18:14

I've had my cleaned for about 3 months. She's really good. I really like her work

Anyway, I gave her a key last week and today I popped home for lunch unexpectedly. She had her DD there with her...

Apparently it's a teacher training day for them and so her DD had to come too. I asked why she couldn't reschedule to do another date or even better, come this evening?

She said she couldn't come this evening due to her DS coming home, he's disabled, and she'd just much rather not let me down for my allocated day so thought she'd just being DD along

I said okay... and that was that

AIBU to think she should've asked my permission first?

So not to drip feed, she was sat at my dining table doing colouring and had a few toys out

OP posts:
DemelzaandRoss · 11/11/2022 20:18

Can’t understand why this has bothered you. It’s difficult to arrange childcare on inset days. I am always pleased to help my cleaner in these circumstances. I don’t need to be told first. I’m just grateful they turn up & consequently my house is clean.

Clymene · 11/11/2022 20:18

Sparklingbrook · 11/11/2022 20:16

A text from the cleaner along the lines of 'my DD has an inset day on Friday so I'd need to bring her along to your house, is that ok or would you rather I came a different day' would have been appropriate.

What if she couldn't come another day?

Newmum0322 · 11/11/2022 20:21

Clymene · 11/11/2022 20:18

What if she couldn't come another day?

This! And what if she couldn’t afford to take an unpaid day? Have some compassion!!!

Islandescape · 11/11/2022 20:21

She should have definitely asked your permission first! She obviously expected you not to find out, I’d be furious.

InsomniacVampire · 11/11/2022 20:22

Conkersareback · 11/11/2022 19:52

But OP didn't expect to be home, so why wasn't payment left anyway?

🤔

Also, if someone did a few hours work but is leaving embarassed refusing to be paid, it tells us A LOT about the employer.
I guess OP is now gonna be looking for a different cleaner.

DonnaDonna0 · 11/11/2022 20:22

She should have asked first, I think it’s wrong to just bring a child into a customers house without permission.

BeautifulWar · 11/11/2022 20:24

What if she couldn't come another day?

Or couldn't really afford for the OP to say no to child being there and lose her pay?

ilyx · 11/11/2022 20:24

changinglanesagain · 11/11/2022 18:17

I just think she should've asked me first, that's all

Seems odd she wouldn't ask for my blessing and just not mention it at all if I hadn't showed up

You seem like hard work. Poor cleaner.

1982mommaof4 · 11/11/2022 20:25

Pleasecreateausername13 · 11/11/2022 18:32

OP - if she had asked would you have been okay with it?

I don't think so as she asked the cleaner why didn't you reschedule..

LouLou198 · 11/11/2022 20:27

AnnaMagnani · 11/11/2022 20:15

My cleaner is well aware that I need her more than she needs me.

She asks me stuff but it's not as if I'm ever going to say no. Without her there would be no cleaning done and no laundry.

She is basically the queen of my house.

I have just set up as a part time cleaner. I am also a nurse. I have been told by all my clients that good reliable cleaners are like gold dust. I have been treated like a queen all week, which I am not used to! It's been lovely.
There may be the occasion I need to bring dd with me, I would however check with the homeowner first.
But if I was you I would let it go, no harm done, she showed up and got the job done. It sounds like she is juggling a lot.

Sparklingbrook · 11/11/2022 20:27

What if she couldn't come another day?

Then the house doesn't get cleaned by the cleaner that week...

BeautifulWar · 11/11/2022 20:30

She should have definitely asked your permission first! She obviously expected you not to find out, I’d be furious.

Really, knowing the background that cleaner had a career that she gave up to look after her disabled child? Might you not figure out that it's probably that easy to reschedule or that she can't afford to lose the pay? Instead you'd be furious that she brought her well behaved child and allowed her to colour in, while she for on with her job?

Some of you are just heartless.

Goatinthegarden · 11/11/2022 20:30

I don’t have kids and I’m ridiculously anal about my belongings. I have a nice dining table that I’d be twitchy about a young child colouring on without supervision. I like having kids visit, but I’d like to be asked first so I would know to put something on the table to protect it.

I clean my own house though, so not a problem I’m likely to have.

ChristinaXYZ · 11/11/2022 20:31

changinglanesagain · 11/11/2022 18:17

I just think she should've asked me first, that's all

Seems odd she wouldn't ask for my blessing and just not mention it at all if I hadn't showed up

Agreed - she should have asked, or mentioned it and offered alternative times or cancelled. It is your house. The child might be well behaved but kids pick things up and knock things over or get drinks and put wet bottomed cups on furniture or press too hard and damage the table top or loads of things.... Just because the child is not one that bounces off the walls does not mean it is ok to bring him or her to someone's house. There might have been things there were age-unsuitable for a child to see or unsafe to touch - sharp things, chemicals for DIY, art or gardening). If you don't know a kid is coming in you don't put those things away.

YANBU OP

Livelovebehappy · 11/11/2022 20:31

Conkersareback · 11/11/2022 20:16

@Livelovebehappy if you were working in your guest room, how would an impromptu video call show a DC colouring at the kitchen table?

Do you have to do a full video call round your whole house?

Erm, where did I say I work in a ‘guest room’? (Unfortunately I have never been lucky enough to have a ‘guest room’, which you seem to assume everyone has?) I have no guest room, no spare room and no office. I work in my kitchen/dining area.

antipodeancanary · 11/11/2022 20:31

No of course the children shouldn't have been there and she knew it was cheeky which is exactly why she didn't ask.How fun it might be to take my children to work. Yup I think I might start doing that . Boss wont mind and if he does well hes a massive snob.

mam0918 · 11/11/2022 20:32

YANBU... wtf is wrong with people here.

The crux of this is everyone know you dont invite someone into someone elses house without permission, that just the very basic of manners.

Also while the kid sounds like she was behaving a kid colouring can make a lot of mess, my mams very expensive mahogany table STILL has ink marks on it from when we where kids 20+ years ago and the ink went through the paper.

Also our old house had a crayon my DS forgot about on a hot day near the window that melted and perminantly melded into the wood, NOTHING would get it out and being a bloody crayon we couldnt even paint over the fucking thing it was like the bloody tell tale heart alway reappearing no matter what we tried.

I would FAR rather someone cancel than they invite strangers (any stranger, hell infact anyone even my own family) into my house while I'm out without permission, that my private home not a club den for people to hang out or wait in.

FurAndFeathers · 11/11/2022 20:33

Islandescape · 11/11/2022 20:21

She should have definitely asked your permission first! She obviously expected you not to find out, I’d be furious.

Genuinely, why?

what about a child colouring in your kitchen whilst her mum works would make you furious?

where’s the harm @Islandescape ?

LBFseBrom · 11/11/2022 20:34

The child was doing no harm, what's the problem?

Conkersareback · 11/11/2022 20:35

mam0918 · 11/11/2022 20:32

YANBU... wtf is wrong with people here.

The crux of this is everyone know you dont invite someone into someone elses house without permission, that just the very basic of manners.

Also while the kid sounds like she was behaving a kid colouring can make a lot of mess, my mams very expensive mahogany table STILL has ink marks on it from when we where kids 20+ years ago and the ink went through the paper.

Also our old house had a crayon my DS forgot about on a hot day near the window that melted and perminantly melded into the wood, NOTHING would get it out and being a bloody crayon we couldnt even paint over the fucking thing it was like the bloody tell tale heart alway reappearing no matter what we tried.

I would FAR rather someone cancel than they invite strangers (any stranger, hell infact anyone even my own family) into my house while I'm out without permission, that my private home not a club den for people to hang out or wait in.

No ink marks or melted crayons are mentioned, that's an awful lot of whataboutery!

TheyreOnlyNoodlesMichael · 11/11/2022 20:35

Hillrunning · 11/11/2022 19:19

Ridiculous responses here! Of course you are your employer if its OK to bring your child along to your job. Even more so if it is in their home.

It's not like she had no warning, she would have known and planned to do it. A quick text to check beforehand would be the professional approach.

Cleaners are not employed. They offer a service. You choose to buy their services. You are not their employer ffs.

FurAndFeathers · 11/11/2022 20:35

mam0918 · 11/11/2022 20:32

YANBU... wtf is wrong with people here.

The crux of this is everyone know you dont invite someone into someone elses house without permission, that just the very basic of manners.

Also while the kid sounds like she was behaving a kid colouring can make a lot of mess, my mams very expensive mahogany table STILL has ink marks on it from when we where kids 20+ years ago and the ink went through the paper.

Also our old house had a crayon my DS forgot about on a hot day near the window that melted and perminantly melded into the wood, NOTHING would get it out and being a bloody crayon we couldnt even paint over the fucking thing it was like the bloody tell tale heart alway reappearing no matter what we tried.

I would FAR rather someone cancel than they invite strangers (any stranger, hell infact anyone even my own family) into my house while I'm out without permission, that my private home not a club den for people to hang out or wait in.

But none of those things happened here?

I find it fascinating that folk get so angry over ‘strangers’ (a 5 year old child!) in their home, being good, harming nothing.

wonder how you’d react to an actual problem

Conkersareback · 11/11/2022 20:37

@Livelovebehappy umm that's where the cleaner was working.....

The OP is lucky enough to have a guest room, not have a disabled child and not had to give up her career as a specialised nurse and deal with childcare juggling!

But you're siding with her?

Mumtobabyhavoc · 11/11/2022 20:38

changinglanesagain · 11/11/2022 18:14

I've had my cleaned for about 3 months. She's really good. I really like her work

Anyway, I gave her a key last week and today I popped home for lunch unexpectedly. She had her DD there with her...

Apparently it's a teacher training day for them and so her DD had to come too. I asked why she couldn't reschedule to do another date or even better, come this evening?

She said she couldn't come this evening due to her DS coming home, he's disabled, and she'd just much rather not let me down for my allocated day so thought she'd just being DD along

I said okay... and that was that

AIBU to think she should've asked my permission first?

So not to drip feed, she was sat at my dining table doing colouring and had a few toys out

She should have asked, but for God's sake it's nothing to lose one's shit over.🤦‍♀️

ToWhitToWhoo · 11/11/2022 20:38

It wouldn't bother me.