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The one show - presenter is son of famous singer but what about giving my son a chance

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Neapolitanicecream · 07/11/2022 19:06

I just wish there was a fair crack for all our sons and daughters to get theses opportunities 🤢

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YellowAndGreenToBeSeen · 07/11/2022 19:28

I haven’t got a famous dad. Or mum. Or any relative. I got my foot in the showbiz door without any connections.

I decided what I wanted to do / which kind of shows I wanted to work on and (politely!) hassled people. All I did was pick up the phone and ask who was in charge of the hiring and firing on the show I wanted to work on. Then I wrote to them. Then I followed up that letter with a call. Then I made damn sure I did a great interview and an even better job.

That was 25 years ago and those we really love to employ still come through that way. Resourcefulness and resilience count for a lot. Winging does not.

FurAndFeathers · 07/11/2022 19:28

Neapolitanicecream · 07/11/2022 19:22

thousands apply for the basic roles impossible to get your foot in the door when you’re up against famous dads

What does your son actually do? Any local/regional media experience? Volunteering? Internships?

what has he tried?

you’re right that a cold application to present the One show is unlikely to be successful - that applies regardless of who your dad is

you’re also right that having a famous parent undoubtedly unlocks doors

you’re wrong to insist that success is impossible without a famous parent

BritishDesiGirl · 07/11/2022 19:28

Florenz · 07/11/2022 19:26

The BBC should not hire anyone related to a current or former employee.

That would be stupid and narrowing down the talent pool .

YellowAndGreenToBeSeen · 07/11/2022 19:28

Florenz · 07/11/2022 19:26

The BBC should not hire anyone related to a current or former employee.

What, even if your 2nd cousin once removed worked for them? Lunacy.

Kanaloa · 07/11/2022 19:28

That’s life, isn’t it? Have famous/rich/influential parents benefits you in many, many ways. But we just have to get on with it. I mean - maybe your son has had opportunities that many others haven’t had. But I’m sure you wouldn’t begrudge him his successes and think they should go to somebody who has had a harder time than he has.

OneFrenchEgg · 07/11/2022 19:29

Oh come on, nepotism and open doors are rife in the media. I think people who made it in the exciting 60s when tv and youth kicked off and opportunities existed are offering a leg up to their own families and friends.

For children, acting, modelling and musicals are still accessible - there will be competition and no audition process for some kids, but there's a lot of chances to get in front of a camera (paid). Then they can make contacts etc.

Smartiepants79 · 07/11/2022 19:30

Florenz · 07/11/2022 19:26

The BBC should not hire anyone related to a current or former employee.

Why not? What if they’re the best choice for the job?? Sweeping statements like this are silly.

Gagaandgag · 07/11/2022 19:33

I agree. I do quite like Roman from what I’ve seen - he is charismatic but I can’t stand the Beckhams son - I saw an article about him
and how he was calling himself a photographer and now he’s a ‘chef’ 😆

OnABreeze · 07/11/2022 19:33

gogohmm · 07/11/2022 19:11

He's been a presenter on capital radio for years, that's where they hired him from

And how do you think he got THAT^^ job? 🤔

Madeyoulook · 07/11/2022 19:35

I was thinking the same today when I heard him on the radio as I was driving. Nice enough lad but I did think what has he got that other young men don’t have? He was presenting at capital radio from the age of 21.

Sillybanana · 07/11/2022 19:36

Mummieslncorporated · 07/11/2022 19:19

Roman Kemp has been working in radio as a presenter for probably ten years now. He's well known in his own right, and was on I'm a celebrity because of it.

You don't land a prime time TV presenting job of you haven't proven yourself capable beforehand.

If your son is interested in a career in media, there are plenty of ways in. Persistence is key.

That’s hilarious. There are barely any BBC jobs open to the general public. I have friends that work there. Literally every opening goes to family or friends.

spanieleyes · 07/11/2022 19:36

Well, presumably he has been around music and musicians pretty much all his life, which must be a bonus!

OnABreeze · 07/11/2022 19:36

Through Wikipedia showing the family ties I've recently discovered that pretty much half of Hollywood have famous parents. The cycle never ends. So many "model" children... the Baldwins, the Kardashians, Cindy Crawford's daughter, Kate Moss' niece and daughter (both of whom have no redeeming modelling features. Kate Moss' daughter looks like the Dad definitely doesn't have her Mum's model looks.

MaizeBlouse · 07/11/2022 19:38

YellowAndGreenToBeSeen · 07/11/2022 19:28

I haven’t got a famous dad. Or mum. Or any relative. I got my foot in the showbiz door without any connections.

I decided what I wanted to do / which kind of shows I wanted to work on and (politely!) hassled people. All I did was pick up the phone and ask who was in charge of the hiring and firing on the show I wanted to work on. Then I wrote to them. Then I followed up that letter with a call. Then I made damn sure I did a great interview and an even better job.

That was 25 years ago and those we really love to employ still come through that way. Resourcefulness and resilience count for a lot. Winging does not.

Yep, that this poster said!
I work in a parallel industry, nonfamous parents, and i have 'made it' down to hard work, persistence, practise and even more hard work.

If your son really wants to be a presenter then he will graft away. But tbh he'd do better to build up some sort of following on tiktok or whatever, thats the way that industry will be going i bet.

bellac11 · 07/11/2022 19:38

It took me ages to work out that you're talking about Roman Kemp

Firstly his dad wasnt a singer as such, he was co opted into his older brothers band when young and the whole band worked their way up from families that were nothing to do with show business

His mum did exactly the same, she is/was a singer in her own right and again didnt have any background family members

But outside of those two, the theatre, film, music scene has had children of famous/influential people making it big and transferring down their families for over a hundred years. Its nothing new

YellowAndGreenToBeSeen · 07/11/2022 19:38

Sillybanana · 07/11/2022 19:36

That’s hilarious. There are barely any BBC jobs open to the general public. I have friends that work there. Literally every opening goes to family or friends.

They really don’t. I work there.

Nintendonasalspray · 07/11/2022 19:39

Meanwhile the son of Coleen Nolan and Shane Ritchie was in the news recently due to being on benefits.

It's an improvement from people only getting jobs by giving the casting director a blow job.

tenbob · 07/11/2022 19:40

The number of people with famous parents working in media are FAR outnumbered by people with ‘ordinary’ parents

it is simply not true to say they can’t get a foot in the door.

Nepotism is rife but can only get you so far if you don’t have the work ethic and talent for it.
If your son has the aptitude and persistence required, he has a good chance of getting there

In many respects, things like Instagram and TikTok have opened up a lot of doors for ‘ordinary’ people

I have a senior job in comms and marketing, and a lot of the presenting and brand jobs I cast and hire for (for corporate things rather than TV) are going to people who have made a career and name for themselves on social media initially. Not just vacuous influencers but wanted to use it as a platform to show their broadcasting skills

That opportunity didn’t exist 10 years ago, so if your son wants to get a presenting job, he has quite a few paths open to him if he wants to put the hard work in

If he doesn’t want to put hard work in, this is absolutely not a career for him

Mummieslncorporated · 07/11/2022 19:40

Sillybanana · 07/11/2022 19:36

That’s hilarious. There are barely any BBC jobs open to the general public. I have friends that work there. Literally every opening goes to family or friends.

Did I say it was easy to get into the BBC? I thought I said you needed a proven track record to get into prime time TV. I'm fact I'm pretty sure I did.

I did say there are plenty of ways to get into working in media. You do realise that the BBC isn't the only option there, don't you?

Sillybanana · 07/11/2022 19:40

MaizeBlouse · 07/11/2022 19:38

Yep, that this poster said!
I work in a parallel industry, nonfamous parents, and i have 'made it' down to hard work, persistence, practise and even more hard work.

If your son really wants to be a presenter then he will graft away. But tbh he'd do better to build up some sort of following on tiktok or whatever, thats the way that industry will be going i bet.

25 years ago things were VERY different in the media world. Not so easy now.

Belledan1 · 07/11/2022 19:41

I think he is good but def wouldn't have got the job if it wasn't for connections. I did a thread on this ages ago about people getting their foot in the door because of connections. Famous or not famous. Someone at my work whom high up got their kid through the door for a job today.

ThingsIhavelearnt · 07/11/2022 19:41

This is everywhere

a garage near us has his son and a mate of his son taken on From the local college as an apprentice scheme it is everywhere

always has

even worse for royalty you get the job regardless of anything

Kraftverk · 07/11/2022 19:41

Megan McCubbin.

wouldn’t have got a look in if step dad wasn’t Chris Packham. And now she is everywhere, leaving fewer opportunities for hardworking presenters who don’t have famous relations.

Alopeciabop · 07/11/2022 19:42

if your son wants to work in media, or any industry really, but particularly creative industries he needs to network. Network everywhere. Go online and type in “[tv/film/publishing//etc] networking event near me” then go to as many as possible as often as possible for as long as it takes to get into his chosen industry.

THEN when he’s IN his chosen industry, go to every single networking event he possibly can.

it’s who you know, and if you don’t know them you’ve got to meet them.

NC12345665 · 07/11/2022 19:42

MaizeBlouse · 07/11/2022 19:38

Yep, that this poster said!
I work in a parallel industry, nonfamous parents, and i have 'made it' down to hard work, persistence, practise and even more hard work.

If your son really wants to be a presenter then he will graft away. But tbh he'd do better to build up some sort of following on tiktok or whatever, thats the way that industry will be going i bet.

So nepotism doesn't exist in showbiz then?