The one show - presenter is son of famous singer but what about giving my son a chance

[Neapolitanicecream]

I just wish there was a fair crack for all our sons and daughters to get theses opportunities 🤢

The ultimate is when you see the so-called 'model' children of certain famous people, and you know that they'd never quite make the grade on their own.

@Neapolitanicecream You didn't ever say what field they are trying to get into though.

Well that's the Dimblebys, the Attenboroughs and the Snows done for then.

And Zoe Ball.

Football is also rife with nepotism.

Erling Haaland plays for Man City. His dad Alfie Haaland played for Man City back in 2000-2003.

Surely this is just the power of networks? I'm a huge networker in quite a senior position and I literally have no contacts in the industry, I did it by just meeting people, following up on opportunities. If I met someone that I thought could help me progress, even if I'd only met them vaguely, I'd reach out, ask them for a coffee and a career chat. 99% agreed. Maybe 10% of them remembered me in the future and offered me other opportunities.

In turn I've helped many friends/friends children to get work in the industry. Not through giving them jobs but providing advice on how organisations approach applications and interviews etc.

Your son needs to network, take the view that if he emails this person the worst they can do is say no, and then he is no worse off than having not approached them in the first place.

I can remember when Emilia Fox said how hard it was for children of famous parents to get into acting or show business 😂
It's a handicap to have a parent in the business apparently.

Of course it is, dear.

But not half as hard as it is for Joe or Jo Bloggs from Birmingham to get on the first rung of the ladder of success.

CoughBrooklynBeckhamcough

To be fair, most of the BBC employees work hard through training, professional development and work their nuts off to gain further experience and sometimes promotion in their field of expertise. They apply for and are sometimes awarded opportunities, much the same as in many fields of work. I imagine that it’s only a small proportion of people at the Beeb who get their opportunities because of who they’re related to, or associated with…

Is that you Nadine? Do you realise how mad that statement is?

Does that mean if you’re a nurse and your mum is a nurse you ought to work in different hospitals?

OP, you've been given offers of help and advice on here and have been asked questions in order for people to give more advice that would help your son. It is a golden opportunity to help him but you haven't responded to them.

Of course nepotism exists, it does in every industry. When it is a more publicly high profile and competitive industry I agree it can be incredibly frustrating. Much more so than the builder who takes on his son rather than advertising an apprenticeship.

However, as you've seen from this thread lots of us have made our way in TV without it. And lots of us are committed to finding new talent and workforce from various areas.

I'd take up those offers of advice and answer people's questions who are trying to help. That would certainly model a better attitude towards opportunity. And might help open that door.

I can remember when Emilia Fox said how hard it was for children of famous parents to get into acting or show business

Sometimes all it takes is a famous surname to get on - surnames like Fox, Redgrave etc, are a passport to opportunity. Just goes to show, privilege is something that those who have it either deny it or are oblivious to it.

Just to say that there's not a club in the world right now who would t want Haalnd jnr so I think his skills transcend his genetics!

Indeed ,Brooklyn Beckham is a man of many talents according to wikipedia ,hes been a model ,an aspiring photographer and hes now an aspiring chef ....
Romeo Beckham is a footballer according to wikipedia ,does he play for one of the worlds super league teams we ask ouselves ,no he plays for inter miami part owned by a certain David Beckham....
And according to wikipedia Cruz Beckham is a singer ,he realeased a xmas single a few years ago..
You have to hand it to rhe Beckhams they do an amazing spin on their ( talentless) kids .

It's not just the famous parents that people should blame , but also those who have their heads turned by a name rather than any talent they may have earned themselves. As is clearly the case with the Beckham's offspring.
Until blatant nepotism like this is challenged , then it will always carry on and certain names is also publicity too of course. So the agencies are more likely to want them I suppose

Erm..No! I think what they mean is you shouldn't work in the NHS period .

In the current school I work at so many of the teachers are children of teachers and the old CEO had loads of their family working across our schools. It's not that they necessarily get a shoe in but seeing what family probably does give you a better insights and also you will hear of jobs going if family work there.

wow. old CEO employed family members in roles paid for with public money, you say? And this is evidence of LACK of nepotism? How likely is it that the best qualified TA/teacher just happens to be the CEO’s relative? Is there some kind of educational mafia going on? That’s a clear conflict of interest. I don’t get how many people either accept nepotism, dismiss it as inevitable or don’t recognise it as simply another form of discrimination. My point is, and speaking more broadly than the OP’s original point, that there ARE things that can be done about it - advertise every job, have formal schemes to award internships/work experience, get out to schools and colleges to talk about your role if you are in a sought after, hard to access profession. More positive are the reports of industry waking up to this. I mentioned the education and policy in the large company I work for that seeks to broaden the talent pool and stop discrimination and at least another couple of people have said the same.

Agree with this.

@Neapolitanicecream Can you give us more info or answer some questions as some of us might be able to give you valuable advice for your son?

so you wouldn’t try and aid your children to get a job? If they are crap they don’t last long.

Please learn the facts before shouting.

But she met him after she had her job on TV

Same with the special needs school my kids went to. Mainly because they saw how rewarding it was for they're parents or family member. They even did they're work experience there. So already had a foot in the door so to speak. Before they even get a student placement they're degree in special needs TA support.

Some of the children have life limiting conditions. So the school can judge they're personality how caring they are and they're empathy. All qualities needed to do the job.

This has become quite a nasty thread with people making rude comments about children of celebrities and how they are 'talentless' or 'nothing special to be a model' etc.
These are ACTUAL human beings. Unless you have personally met these children and know what they are actually like, you really shouldn't be saying such horrible things.

Maybe one or two do get in by their own means and are talented, but if your parents or relatives were someone well known and can pull the right strings, then bet many wouldn't turn it down out of any kind of principle !

That boy off of 2. 4 children the eldest one with the funny name he is son of Ben Dover and some other famous porn star porn film makers. Helena Bonham Carter related to ex prime minister, others sons of cleaners if you are talking about roman kemp he got there through talent and hard work not his popstar parents if you're talking about famous for being famous on the other hand like tori spelling, thingy Beckham and Paris hilton that's another story