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The one show - presenter is son of famous singer but what about giving my son a chance

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Neapolitanicecream · 07/11/2022 19:06

I just wish there was a fair crack for all our sons and daughters to get theses opportunities 🤢

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bridgetreilly · 08/11/2022 12:03

The thing is, being a TV presenter or radio DJ, or whatever, is a job that many, many people would like to do and probably be quite good at. But we don’t actually need very many of them, compared to, say, nurses. So of course it’s difficult to get into, of course most people never get a foot in the door. That doesn’t mean it’s all about nepotism and who you know. It does mean that we need to stop lying to our kids that if they try hard enough they’ll get their dream. They might, but it’s much more likely they won’t.

Sweetpeasaremadeforbees · 08/11/2022 12:28

The thing is, being a TV presenter or radio DJ, or whatever, is a job that many, many people would like to do and probably be quite good at. But we don’t actually need very many of them, compared to, say, nurses. So of course it’s difficult to get into, of course most people never get a foot in the door.

That's true. But we never seem to hear of celebs using their influence to get their kids work experience in a care home because they want to have a career in nursing or the like.

CulturePigeon · 08/11/2022 12:30

bridgetreilly · Today 12:03
The thing is, being a TV presenter or radio DJ, or whatever, is a job that many, many people would like to do and probably be quite good at. But we don’t actually need very many of them, compared to, say, nurses. So of course it’s difficult to get into, of course most people never get a foot in the door. That doesn’t mean it’s all about nepotism and who you know. It does mean that we need to stop lying to our kids that if they try hard enough they’ll get their dream. They might, but it’s much more likely they won’t.

I totally agree.

You don't have to totally rain on your kids' parade, but really, all this guff from schools and other people about 'if you want something enough, you will get it!" is really damaging. A bit of realism needs to be gently introduced.

My little daughter announced that her teacher had said pretty much this and I had to tell her that, although I'd love to have been a ballerina with the Royal Ballet, my lack of co-ordination and un-petite physique meant that that dream would never fly! Both my children have found success in their chosen line, but also, they've both been in the situation where an advertised job wasn't really open to all - a tough lesson for youngsters to learn.

GenerationSuper · 08/11/2022 12:42

How come Lila grace is so relatively short? Was her dad on the short side? KM is not super tall but almost a head taller than her dd. LG is absolutely stunning though.

rosamacrose · 08/11/2022 12:47

Out of interest, @YellowAndGreenToBeSeen did you get the CV?

x2boys · 08/11/2022 12:51

GlumGum · 08/11/2022 11:58

Of course having famous parents must help, but as a pp mentioned football, I always thought (maybe I'm wrong) because there is SO much money involved, that you wouldn't have a chance in that profession unless you really did have the ability.

My point was Jamie Redknapp clearly must have had the ability otherwise he would never have been selected for major teams ,but having a father who was a famous footballer ,would have helped get him spotted ,Harry would have known who to contact to assess Jamie ,s ability and the scouts would have been more likely to want to assess him, then say Johnny smith down the road ,whose dad is a bus driver ,if his Dad had known who to contact in the first place ,Johnny smith might have been equally as talented he just didnt have the same leg up

newname12345 · 08/11/2022 12:54

Thefriendlyone · 08/11/2022 08:02

The op has a point, people already In the industry have connections and can help get their kids a foot In the door. In general though they tend not to be successful if they are not also talented. Like the beckham or Ramsey kids.

Roman kemp is very successful in his own right but clearly got the small initial weekend gig due to his family connections, as he was good at it he then made his own way .

However let’s be honest the vast majority of famous people in the media are not from famous families.

What started his career was getting a contract with Universal Music when he was 15. Totally agree that you don't get any offer at that age without connections - it might have been his more famous god parent (George Michael) who got him that rather than his parents. Its not necessarily fair, but life isn't fair. He has though made the most out of that opportunity.

user68901 · 08/11/2022 13:00

If it's any consolation Dh works for big investment bank (another industry renowned for being "jobs for the boys"). He is not allowed in any way to help our kids get a foot in the door. Every applicant has to go through the correct channels.

YellowAndGreenToBeSeen · 08/11/2022 13:21

@rosamacrose nope

rosamacrose · 08/11/2022 13:43

YellowAndGreenToBeSeen · 08/11/2022 13:21

@rosamacrose nope

I wouldn't tell my son I'd put my coat on over my pinnie and gone rushing to Mumsnet, either.

MaggieMagpie357 · 08/11/2022 17:55

“What about my son?!” 😂 Seriously?! Maybe he should work hard and go NC with his crazy mother, that might improve his job prospects.

Hadjab · 08/11/2022 18:08

Neapolitanicecream · 07/11/2022 20:10

@susan12345678 My point exactly our kids don’t get off the starting block

My sister is an actress, has been for years. Things are really taking off for her at the moment. Why? Because she's talented and has a very good manager. The majority of successful media types, don't actually have famous family members. Yes, they may have 'connections', but building those connections actually takes a lot of effort.

Gingernan · 08/11/2022 18:21

Whatever your job,famous or not,if your child wants to enter the same business they will start with some advantage...contacts etc. Roman Kemp is a natural at what he does,partly because he has grown up in the business and also because he has now had years of experience.

Needmorelego · 08/11/2022 18:27

This has always been the way though. Skills passed down in families. Generation to generation. Many surnames evolved from the job the family did - Tailor, Fisher, Farmer (Black)Smith, Carpenter etc. It's why so many businesses are called "...and Sons"
Not really an unusual thing to follow in your parents footsteps.

chaosmaker · 08/11/2022 18:27

BeLikeElsa · 07/11/2022 19:13

Can your son even sing?

Do you have to be able to sing to present now?

CatkinToadflax · 08/11/2022 18:41

OP has your son got an agent? That presumably would help?

DS2 has an agent. He’s a child actor, or rather, a would-be child actor. He’s had some auditions including for the BBC but no actual work yet. Acting/presenting is incredibly competitive and he may never get a TV part. The couple of child actors we know who are both doing extremely well are both ‘industry insiders’ - but they are also enormously talented. And have been acting since they were tiny. DS only started getting interested in drama a couple of years ago.

@YellowAndGreenToBeSeen if you want a posh sounding 14 year old (other accents are available) with nice cheekbones, I’ll let you know who his agent is! Smile Wink

ilovechocolate07 · 08/11/2022 18:58

It's the same as has been from the beginning. Same in life too. Who you know counts for a lot.

Miisty · 08/11/2022 19:01

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FriendofDorothy · 08/11/2022 19:03

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What colour?
Green? Purple?

monsteramunch · 08/11/2022 19:04

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Is this a typo or did you actually just say that?

the80sweregreat · 08/11/2022 19:06

I know who you mean and he made a documentary a while ago where he felt that the only reason he had work on the radio / tv was because his parents are famous. He felt suicidal over it all.
Nepotism is everywhere in every occupation
It's not always fair, but people helping their own will always happen , be it money or a leg up by knowing the right people. Face fitting is rife at my work place too. It is what it is. Life isn't always fair , sadly .

Miisty · 08/11/2022 19:11

NoDark brown Or light brown or any cooler except White

Miisty · 08/11/2022 19:14

No the BBC told her that it’s going back over 28 years and that’s why she didn’t get a job

YellowAndGreenToBeSeen · 08/11/2022 19:17

@CatkinToadflax 😄. I’m not in drama unfortunately but if that changes!

twinmum2007 · 08/11/2022 19:19

Works like that in every industry I've ever worked in. People use their contacts, kids gravitate towards what they know and many of them build their own contacts through stage school.or whatever. Ronan Kemp grew up in an entertainment family, so he gravitated towards it. If he was total shit at it, he wouldn't still be doing it.