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To think if someone is four inches taller than you that is not short

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SleepDreamThinkHuge · 07/11/2022 16:17

in relative terms?

I was talking to a friend who said he met a girl who was 5 feet 2 and he is just over 5 foot 6 she said she liked everything about him, but he is "too short for her."

I told him height is relative. For his height, someone who is between 5 feet to 5 feet 3 it is not really too short because it is still a significant difference. I have heard other stories from friends as well another guy who is about 5 feet 9 and a girl who is 5 feet 3 thinks, he is too short for her. Is it me or if someone is a few inches taller than you at least that should not be classed as short speaking in relative terms?

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MrsDoyle351 · 08/11/2022 06:23

Completely agree with you @SleepDreamThinkHuge .

There are an awful lot of shallow and insecure people out there. Both men and women. Of course, they are perfectly within their rights to be shallow and insecure.

And they will come and tell you how wrong you are Halloween Confused

WishfulWanda · 08/11/2022 06:47

I definitely agree with the posters who say it’s about preference. I’m only 5 foot but DH is 6 foot 3. I just find guys over 6 foot the most attractive, it’s personal preference 🤷‍♀️ Anyone under 5’ 5’’ would be too short, even though they would be quite tall compared to me.

KimberleyClark · 08/11/2022 07:20

StopsWalkingToSneeze · 08/11/2022 06:11

I’ve always been heightist, I don’t know why. I’m 5’7” and I just find 6’+ men more attractive. I’ve even said out loud “look at him” not within earshot of the tall person I have to add. Even someone not conventionally good looking I find attractive if they’re 6’6” kind of height. My husband is 6’2”, our DD is 5’10” and DS is 6’4” if they brought home someone under 5’5” I wouldn’t say anything but I would be gutted. It’s my issue and I admit it’s shallow and wrong so I usually keep it to myself.

Wouldn’t you be even more gutted if your children turned out to have the same shallow attitudes as you?

TerfranosaurusVagina · 08/11/2022 07:45

Ooh look, its the relationship police!

KimberleyClark · 08/11/2022 08:04

Interesting article here. Is it a genuine preference, or something women are conditioned into by patriarchal “conventional” beauty ideals?

www.tbsnews.net/thoughts/heightism-and-unattainable-beauty-standards-tall-and-short-it-325174

xPeaceX · 08/11/2022 08:08

I'm 5'1" and single and I am not shallow. Men have to be worth it and the ones interested in me never were. Same short/tall men might have been much more respectful or attentive to taller/prettier/younger women.
In the end, who cares. Settle for somebody or don't. It's not shallow to remain single!

Golfdad · 08/11/2022 08:35

If that is here personal preference and its a deal breaker for her, then thats it and all about it. I do think its a bit shallow though. By demanding a 6 foot plus guy, you're effectively ruling out about 4/5ths of the population, and there are a lot of really good men in that 4/5ths, and it seems ridiculous to me to write that off based on how you look on his arm in heels.

DonnaBanana · 08/11/2022 09:02

men get very offended on this subject but it is what it is many woman prefer tall men

Quite right. It is biological. We need men who fit into the traditional “protector” role and some short weedy guy isn’t going to cut it.

CookPassBabtridge · 08/11/2022 09:14

I understand natural attraction. But I don't get how a short woman doesn't feel like a man a couple of inches taller than her doesn't feel the tallness? I'm 5ft 7 and someone 5ft 9 for example feels tall to me.

Seems unfair that so many women of all heights are after over 6fters.. unfair for the shorter men and the tall women. But guess it's same as men of all weights going after slim women, men of all ages going after young women.
Attraction doesn't work on fairness.. why there will always be a lot of lonely people in the world.

KimberleyClark · 08/11/2022 09:30

DonnaBanana · 08/11/2022 09:02

men get very offended on this subject but it is what it is many woman prefer tall men

Quite right. It is biological. We need men who fit into the traditional “protector” role and some short weedy guy isn’t going to cut it.

Yes we poor weak pathetic women can’t cope without a big strong man to protect us.

ReneBumsWombats · 08/11/2022 09:33

KimberleyClark · 08/11/2022 09:30

Yes we poor weak pathetic women can’t cope without a big strong man to protect us.

I can cope without it. Have done. But given the choice...

TheOrigRights · 08/11/2022 09:38

KimberleyClark · 08/11/2022 09:30

Yes we poor weak pathetic women can’t cope without a big strong man to protect us.

It's evolutionary.

ReneBumsWombats · 08/11/2022 09:50

TheOrigRights · 08/11/2022 09:38

It's evolutionary.

To an extent. There are many outliers and other factors. If reproduction was all we thought about in partner selection, there would be no gay people. Humans are unusual in having sex for recreation and people are wired in all sorts of ways.

GasPanic · 08/11/2022 09:57

CookPassBabtridge · 08/11/2022 09:14

I understand natural attraction. But I don't get how a short woman doesn't feel like a man a couple of inches taller than her doesn't feel the tallness? I'm 5ft 7 and someone 5ft 9 for example feels tall to me.

Seems unfair that so many women of all heights are after over 6fters.. unfair for the shorter men and the tall women. But guess it's same as men of all weights going after slim women, men of all ages going after young women.
Attraction doesn't work on fairness.. why there will always be a lot of lonely people in the world.

Let's say your a 5ft woman willing only to have a relationship with a 6ft man.

In doing that you are already limiting your choice to maybe 50% available. Then there is the assumption that all tall men like short women, which probably culls the pool by another 50%. Then add in the fact that you want to get together with someone who would make a good life partner (morals, responsibility, work ethic, good parent, sense of humour, not an asshole etc) then you are probably limiting the pool by another 90%. So the final probability is 0.50.50.1 which is about 0.025 (1 in 40).

So it may be great to be choosy about a couple of inches in height if you are the woman every man wants to be with. But most of us mere mortals don't have the allure to have that option if we want to be be in a relationship with a good life partner. You can be choosey to want every man in your life to look as good as Brad Pitt, but ultimately it's unlikely to happen unless you can deliver on the goods as well.

Funnily enough there was a thread on here the other day about "women making better choices in life partners". Well you have the ability to make a better choice on the important stuff like someone being a good life partner by not limiting your choices in the first instance.

KimberleyClark · 08/11/2022 10:02

Average height has varied over the centuries. In 1950 the average height for males was 5ft 7. Which seems to suggest it’s relative height that is the evolutionary attractiveness factor and not height per se.

ReneBumsWombats · 08/11/2022 10:04

I don't think half of all men are 6 toot and over. I'm finding it difficult to find the median height but the average is 5'9" or 5'10". Unlikely that more than half are at least two inches taller.

I also don't think most people would really notice the difference between 5'10" and 6'.

TheOrigRights · 08/11/2022 10:07

ReneBumsWombats · 08/11/2022 09:50

To an extent. There are many outliers and other factors. If reproduction was all we thought about in partner selection, there would be no gay people. Humans are unusual in having sex for recreation and people are wired in all sorts of ways.

Well yes, that's why I kept my response brief. If I had all day I could write an essay!

ReneBumsWombats · 08/11/2022 10:23

KimberleyClark · 08/11/2022 10:02

Average height has varied over the centuries. In 1950 the average height for males was 5ft 7. Which seems to suggest it’s relative height that is the evolutionary attractiveness factor and not height per se.

Relative to the general population. Not necessarily relative to one's own height.

6' is probably the benchmark these days for "objectively tall". Yes, a six footer will seem short to someone who's 6'7", but they probably wouldn't consider him a "short" or "average" height. They'll know they're uncommonly tall themselves.

KimberleyClark · 08/11/2022 10:31

A 5ft 10 man in 1950 would be tall relative to the general population. But he’d still be short to some on here.

LetYouGo · 08/11/2022 10:32

What a weird thread. This woman prefers taller men, that’s allowed. 🤷🏻‍♀️ Why should people not be able to have preferences when it comes to who they date?

TheOrigRights · 08/11/2022 10:46

LetYouGo · 08/11/2022 10:32

What a weird thread. This woman prefers taller men, that’s allowed. 🤷🏻‍♀️ Why should people not be able to have preferences when it comes to who they date?

The OP seems to be overly invested in the issue. I'm not the only one to think the OP is a shorter than average man.

ReneBumsWombats · 08/11/2022 10:49

KimberleyClark · 08/11/2022 10:31

A 5ft 10 man in 1950 would be tall relative to the general population. But he’d still be short to some on here.

And they wouldn't have to date him in 1950 either.

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 08/11/2022 10:49

It’s just a personal preference. She can choose to be with who she wants - she might just like men who are really tall.

For me, height is not a huge thing, although I wouldn’t want to be taller.

I think it’s all wrapped up in their personality anyway - someone who is short but has an attractive personality would be much more my type than some one tall who was a bit of a dick head (or just less attractive personality etc). Even if on paper I might think “oh yes lovely tall men, nice”. If I knew the personal and liked them, height wouldn’t matter.

FarmGirl78 · 08/11/2022 10:51

He is taller than her. He is not tall.

tigger1001 · 08/11/2022 10:53

I am more drawn to tall men. It's physically appealing to me. However it's not the only thing and my partner of 18 years is 5'8 so clearly it wasn't the defining characteristic for me.

That said though, we had known each other for a while so it wasn't just a physical attraction.